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This article has sat here as a stub since 2005. There haven't been any substantial edits since the no-consensus AfD in 2007. It seems its time to face the fact that this is a dictionary definition and not much more. I think it should probably be moved over to Wiktionary and this page should be turned into a soft redirect. Alternately, it could be merged somewhere if we can find consensus on a target article. Thoughts anyone? Beeblebrox ( talk) 18:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC) reply

  • I would add that there had been no talk on this page for the last eight months, which is why I archived it. You can still access the old talk through the links in the box to the right. Beeblebrox ( talk) 23:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC) reply

Clarify?

The term is also found as LGBT slang, where the Bambi effect is used to refer to "the turning of a young (otherwise homosexual) man's fancy to (heterosexual) love [the parting of the youthful Bambi and his erstwhile pal Thumper in the Disney film Bambi

What? -- Moni3 ( talk) 21:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC) reply

It might be relevant to cite the age of the citation on that, because I don't know anyone in the GLBT community, myself included, that recognizes that use. Does anyone know of a recent citation that includes it? I realize that's probably not necessary at wiki, but I still... think it's relevant.--NM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.212.135 ( talk) 03:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Whether or not it's relevant, it shouldn't be mentioned in this article, since it's a completely different meaning. This is why we have disambiguation. -- NE2 06:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

  • Sure, but it isn't notable enough to stand on its own, and I'd venture to say that given the quote it's based on the same characteristics of human behavior and attraction. More work is to be done here. NM, perhaps you can find out? Drmies ( talk) 18:15, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply

I'm moving the section here for now, since it's not used in the same sense as the rest of the article and so doesn't belong in it.-- TyrS ( talk) 03:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

==LGBT slang==
The term is also found in 
LGBT slang, where "Bambi effect" means a young gay man's foray into 
heterosexuality: "the turning of a young (otherwise 
homosexual) man's fancy to (heterosexual) love [the parting of the youthful Bambi and his erstwhile pal Thumper in the Disney film Bambi (1942)]."
[1] In The Gay Report it was described as the effect "where the young males in spring all suddenly turn their attention away from each other towards females with puffy cheeks, red lips, batting eyelashes, etc. - where even Bambi and Thumper don't need each other any more".
[2]

Unencyclopedic & POV

The article is written from the obvious POV of uncritical agreement with a hypothetical and not scientifically supported 'effect', which comes across as being more of a jocular, mainstream-media-friendly neologism than a serious hypothesis. The sources (which are not psychological studies) simply use the phrase, they don't perform serious research or study on this purported 'effect'.-- TyrS ( talk) 03:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

rm non-applicable 'see also' section

==See also==
* 
Bambi Meets Godzilla

It's not sufficiently clear how Bambi Meets Godzilla is worth linking to from this article.-- TyrS ( talk) 03:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

rm sentence re acts of hunting

It's unclear why this was included. The reference is "A personal journey", suggesting it's far from being a scientifically sound source.-- TyrS ( talk) 04:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Witnessing disturbing acts of hunting can lead to "feeling sympathy for the 
prey and hatred for the 
predators".
[3]

move OR clause with citation here for now

"which would explain..." is totally OR. Also, the attempt to make a connection between attraction to human-baby-like-looking animals and sympathy for "furry or feathered animals"* makes no sense unless you've got a furry or feathered human baby. Sentence moved here for now in case someone wants to try to work the citation back in in a non-OR, etc, way.-- TyrS ( talk) 04:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

which would explain the sympathy humans feel for furry or feathered animals and their aversion to scaly creatures.
[4]

*Originally the sentence appeared as:

"A secondary meaning is sometimes found in psychology, where the term may be used to refer to a perceived tendency in "humans...to find animals attractive that have characteristics similar to those [of] human babies", which would explain the sympathy humans feel for furry or feathered animals..."

References moved from article to above

  1. ^ Green, Jonathon (2005). Cassell's dictionary of slang. Sterling. p. 63. ISBN  9780304366361. {{ cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= ( help)
  2. ^ Jay, Karla (1979). The gay report: lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles. Summit Books. p. 108. ISBN  9780671400132. {{ cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) ( help)
  3. ^ Petersen, David (1997). The Nearby Faraway: A Personal Journey Through the Heart of the West. Big Earth. p. 168. ISBN  9781555661878. {{ cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= ( help)
  4. ^ Steiner, Bill (2003). Audubon art prints: a collector's guide to every edition. U of South Carolina P. p. 56. ISBN  9781570035043. {{ cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= ( help)

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To Kill a Mockingbird

I know I ought simply to be bold, but I suspect this has come up before. It seems to me that the famous (eponymous) speech from To Kill a Mockingbird is a very straightforward summary of the Bambi Effect, and therefore would warrant inclusion - maybe even just as a reference or "see also". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:2174:D100:A0D5:3B7C:8032:CF61 ( talk) 15:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Merge and/or Transwiki

This article has sat here as a stub since 2005. There haven't been any substantial edits since the no-consensus AfD in 2007. It seems its time to face the fact that this is a dictionary definition and not much more. I think it should probably be moved over to Wiktionary and this page should be turned into a soft redirect. Alternately, it could be merged somewhere if we can find consensus on a target article. Thoughts anyone? Beeblebrox ( talk) 18:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC) reply

  • I would add that there had been no talk on this page for the last eight months, which is why I archived it. You can still access the old talk through the links in the box to the right. Beeblebrox ( talk) 23:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC) reply

Clarify?

The term is also found as LGBT slang, where the Bambi effect is used to refer to "the turning of a young (otherwise homosexual) man's fancy to (heterosexual) love [the parting of the youthful Bambi and his erstwhile pal Thumper in the Disney film Bambi

What? -- Moni3 ( talk) 21:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC) reply

It might be relevant to cite the age of the citation on that, because I don't know anyone in the GLBT community, myself included, that recognizes that use. Does anyone know of a recent citation that includes it? I realize that's probably not necessary at wiki, but I still... think it's relevant.--NM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.212.135 ( talk) 03:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Whether or not it's relevant, it shouldn't be mentioned in this article, since it's a completely different meaning. This is why we have disambiguation. -- NE2 06:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC) reply

  • Sure, but it isn't notable enough to stand on its own, and I'd venture to say that given the quote it's based on the same characteristics of human behavior and attraction. More work is to be done here. NM, perhaps you can find out? Drmies ( talk) 18:15, 8 December 2009 (UTC) reply

I'm moving the section here for now, since it's not used in the same sense as the rest of the article and so doesn't belong in it.-- TyrS ( talk) 03:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

==LGBT slang==
The term is also found in 
LGBT slang, where "Bambi effect" means a young gay man's foray into 
heterosexuality: "the turning of a young (otherwise 
homosexual) man's fancy to (heterosexual) love [the parting of the youthful Bambi and his erstwhile pal Thumper in the Disney film Bambi (1942)]."
[1] In The Gay Report it was described as the effect "where the young males in spring all suddenly turn their attention away from each other towards females with puffy cheeks, red lips, batting eyelashes, etc. - where even Bambi and Thumper don't need each other any more".
[2]

Unencyclopedic & POV

The article is written from the obvious POV of uncritical agreement with a hypothetical and not scientifically supported 'effect', which comes across as being more of a jocular, mainstream-media-friendly neologism than a serious hypothesis. The sources (which are not psychological studies) simply use the phrase, they don't perform serious research or study on this purported 'effect'.-- TyrS ( talk) 03:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

rm non-applicable 'see also' section

==See also==
* 
Bambi Meets Godzilla

It's not sufficiently clear how Bambi Meets Godzilla is worth linking to from this article.-- TyrS ( talk) 03:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

rm sentence re acts of hunting

It's unclear why this was included. The reference is "A personal journey", suggesting it's far from being a scientifically sound source.-- TyrS ( talk) 04:04, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

Witnessing disturbing acts of hunting can lead to "feeling sympathy for the 
prey and hatred for the 
predators".
[3]

move OR clause with citation here for now

"which would explain..." is totally OR. Also, the attempt to make a connection between attraction to human-baby-like-looking animals and sympathy for "furry or feathered animals"* makes no sense unless you've got a furry or feathered human baby. Sentence moved here for now in case someone wants to try to work the citation back in in a non-OR, etc, way.-- TyrS ( talk) 04:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC) reply

which would explain the sympathy humans feel for furry or feathered animals and their aversion to scaly creatures.
[4]

*Originally the sentence appeared as:

"A secondary meaning is sometimes found in psychology, where the term may be used to refer to a perceived tendency in "humans...to find animals attractive that have characteristics similar to those [of] human babies", which would explain the sympathy humans feel for furry or feathered animals..."

References moved from article to above

  1. ^ Green, Jonathon (2005). Cassell's dictionary of slang. Sterling. p. 63. ISBN  9780304366361. {{ cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= ( help)
  2. ^ Jay, Karla (1979). The gay report: lesbians and gay men speak out about sexual experiences and lifestyles. Summit Books. p. 108. ISBN  9780671400132. {{ cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) ( help)
  3. ^ Petersen, David (1997). The Nearby Faraway: A Personal Journey Through the Heart of the West. Big Earth. p. 168. ISBN  9781555661878. {{ cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= ( help)
  4. ^ Steiner, Bill (2003). Audubon art prints: a collector's guide to every edition. U of South Carolina P. p. 56. ISBN  9781570035043. {{ cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= ( help)

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To Kill a Mockingbird

I know I ought simply to be bold, but I suspect this has come up before. It seems to me that the famous (eponymous) speech from To Kill a Mockingbird is a very straightforward summary of the Bambi Effect, and therefore would warrant inclusion - maybe even just as a reference or "see also". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:2174:D100:A0D5:3B7C:8032:CF61 ( talk) 15:40, 26 August 2020 (UTC) reply


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