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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 September 2020 and 17 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kkrupp.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 14:57, 16 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Released June 29, 2006

This is part of a modification to the organization of attachment-related pages. kc62301

Close Relationships template

I created a new template for close relationships. I am putting it on this article to get feedback from others. I do not plan to put it on any other attachment related articles. If the consensus is to remove it from this article, I'm okay with that, too. The template can be added to pages by typing {{ Close Relationships}} at the top of an article. ( Kelly 04:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)) reply

Do you mean the listing at the top of the page on the right? If so, I really like that and I'd encourage you to leave it there. DPeterson 13:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Yes. That's it. Kelly 13:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Tag on Essay Unwarrented

I hold a doctoral degree in the social sciences and feel the tagged section reads like a popular science book would read. This is consistent with Wikipedia standards.

Merge with Attachment Theory

This article is redundant in many sections and should be merged with Attachment Theory. Anthiety ( talk) 06:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Though there are some redundancies, I think attachment theory more often refers to what is seen in children. I added a line in the lead distinguishing how childhood attachment extends into adulthood. Austin Psych ( talk) 23:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Many dubious contributions by unidentified editors

The descriptions of attachment styles have been overrun recently by anonymous IPs adding non-encyclopedic content with no or dubious sources. I have taken a crack at fixing it but more help is needed. Universaladdress ( talk) 06:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC) reply

What is the difference between being a healthy introvert and having an Dismissive Avoidant attachment style?

Attachment theory is indeed "introvert-negative", for its premise is that people are biologically driven to form attachments with others. The dismissive avoidant attachment style is basically defined as being a "loner" or introverted person. An attachment theorist therefore may consider such an introvert to be suffering from a delusional complex. Namely, having a view that close relationships are relatively unimportant, as well as denying the need for close relationships... hence introverts are openly contradicting their own clear biological needs and desires.

I won't attack here because I have bigger fish to fry, but the Wikipedia article on this is **bogus**. For example:

>"The descriptions of adult attachment styles offered below are based on the relationship questionnaire devised by Bartholomew and Horowitz [6] and on a review of studies by Pietromonaco and Barrett[7]."

Unfortunately this cannot be the case, as reference 7 is a single study by Pietromonaco and Barrett, and reference 6 is merely a proposal of paradigm- and one that has never been tested or validated or implemented.

Maybe this is a clear case of pseudo-psychology, or maybe it's just about the psychology of you and me, and how we may be such that we respond so submissively to the suggestions contained in the writings of the APA, that we can't see for how much and to whom these were sold.

>"Investigators commonly note the defensive character of this attachment style."

Ironically this represents a legitimate defense mechanism of the narrator. In fact the dismissive avoidant attachment style has no defensive character whatsoever. But pointing out the illusory defensiveness of one's opponent effectively creates the illusion of an argument.

>"The desire for independence often appears as an attempt to avoid attachment altogether."

Yes. A desire for independence is reflected in an attempt to avoid attachment. Kind of like how the promotion of attachment often appears as an attempt to undermine introversion altogether.

66.239.61.216 ( talk) 11:30, 1 January 2016 (UTC) reply

Some Updates That I feel Should Be Made

Hello! I see it has been some time since people have been on this talk page working on editing this article. I recently have spent some time looking over it and I have to say that I love everything that has been done with this article. I think that it was extremely well-written and I think that it has some great information!

There are a few areas where I feel like some updates would be helpful. I think that the sources that have been used are great, but I feel like if we updated some of them to make the information more current it would help this page to be even better and stronger.

Another little change that I think would be helpful would be to add some color to the charts and tables on this page. I think that doing so would make the charts pop and it would help them to look more professional. Thank you for those who are reading this comment I appreciate it! Again I think that if we chose to make some of these changes this page would look better and better! -- Oceanwater31 ( talk) 23:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Your comments are very well-intentioned. Please keep in mind, though, that an encyclopedia isn't a PowerPoint presentation. There is no reason we should be worried about making "charts pop" and "look more professional"; we are a reference work, and if we are appropriately sourced and well-written, we are "professional" enough. Colors, in particular, are to be deployed very carefully here because of accessibility concerns. Please see MOS:COLOUR. Information is no less valuable or professional because it doesn't "pop"! Thanks. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

I find that it would be helpful to look for more recent sources to help with this article since the latest article found is from 2015. This could be helpful for seeing if there has been any more research and new information found. Karinan99 ( talk) 00:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi! I am new to the editing world of Wikipedia, but in regards to the images I think it would be helpful to add titles or short descriptions of what is being shown, kind of like a text book. Shawna Echols ( talk) 00:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Wiki Education assignment: Adult Development Winter 2022

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 January 2022 and 18 April 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Austin Psych ( article contribs).

Remove sources that are not accessible to the public.

I appreciate your positive feedback on the "Attachment Theory" contribution. While it effectively provided valuable information for the general public, it appears to overlap with content found int other sections contributed by past contributors. Additionally, there to be an issue with accessibility to at least one source for the general public. The last update is in 2022, it's acknowledged that the field may have advanced, and new research on the topic is available in 2024. Consider revising the content to address these concerns and incorporate the latest information and research on "Attachment Theory".

Karemblyvilla ( talk) 02:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Wiki Education assignment: Adult Development winter 2024

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 20 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Karemblyvilla ( article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Karemblyvilla ( talk) 04:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 September 2020 and 17 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Kkrupp.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 14:57, 16 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Released June 29, 2006

This is part of a modification to the organization of attachment-related pages. kc62301

Close Relationships template

I created a new template for close relationships. I am putting it on this article to get feedback from others. I do not plan to put it on any other attachment related articles. If the consensus is to remove it from this article, I'm okay with that, too. The template can be added to pages by typing {{ Close Relationships}} at the top of an article. ( Kelly 04:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)) reply

Do you mean the listing at the top of the page on the right? If so, I really like that and I'd encourage you to leave it there. DPeterson 13:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Yes. That's it. Kelly 13:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC) reply

Tag on Essay Unwarrented

I hold a doctoral degree in the social sciences and feel the tagged section reads like a popular science book would read. This is consistent with Wikipedia standards.

Merge with Attachment Theory

This article is redundant in many sections and should be merged with Attachment Theory. Anthiety ( talk) 06:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Though there are some redundancies, I think attachment theory more often refers to what is seen in children. I added a line in the lead distinguishing how childhood attachment extends into adulthood. Austin Psych ( talk) 23:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC) reply

Many dubious contributions by unidentified editors

The descriptions of attachment styles have been overrun recently by anonymous IPs adding non-encyclopedic content with no or dubious sources. I have taken a crack at fixing it but more help is needed. Universaladdress ( talk) 06:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC) reply

What is the difference between being a healthy introvert and having an Dismissive Avoidant attachment style?

Attachment theory is indeed "introvert-negative", for its premise is that people are biologically driven to form attachments with others. The dismissive avoidant attachment style is basically defined as being a "loner" or introverted person. An attachment theorist therefore may consider such an introvert to be suffering from a delusional complex. Namely, having a view that close relationships are relatively unimportant, as well as denying the need for close relationships... hence introverts are openly contradicting their own clear biological needs and desires.

I won't attack here because I have bigger fish to fry, but the Wikipedia article on this is **bogus**. For example:

>"The descriptions of adult attachment styles offered below are based on the relationship questionnaire devised by Bartholomew and Horowitz [6] and on a review of studies by Pietromonaco and Barrett[7]."

Unfortunately this cannot be the case, as reference 7 is a single study by Pietromonaco and Barrett, and reference 6 is merely a proposal of paradigm- and one that has never been tested or validated or implemented.

Maybe this is a clear case of pseudo-psychology, or maybe it's just about the psychology of you and me, and how we may be such that we respond so submissively to the suggestions contained in the writings of the APA, that we can't see for how much and to whom these were sold.

>"Investigators commonly note the defensive character of this attachment style."

Ironically this represents a legitimate defense mechanism of the narrator. In fact the dismissive avoidant attachment style has no defensive character whatsoever. But pointing out the illusory defensiveness of one's opponent effectively creates the illusion of an argument.

>"The desire for independence often appears as an attempt to avoid attachment altogether."

Yes. A desire for independence is reflected in an attempt to avoid attachment. Kind of like how the promotion of attachment often appears as an attempt to undermine introversion altogether.

66.239.61.216 ( talk) 11:30, 1 January 2016 (UTC) reply

Some Updates That I feel Should Be Made

Hello! I see it has been some time since people have been on this talk page working on editing this article. I recently have spent some time looking over it and I have to say that I love everything that has been done with this article. I think that it was extremely well-written and I think that it has some great information!

There are a few areas where I feel like some updates would be helpful. I think that the sources that have been used are great, but I feel like if we updated some of them to make the information more current it would help this page to be even better and stronger.

Another little change that I think would be helpful would be to add some color to the charts and tables on this page. I think that doing so would make the charts pop and it would help them to look more professional. Thank you for those who are reading this comment I appreciate it! Again I think that if we chose to make some of these changes this page would look better and better! -- Oceanwater31 ( talk) 23:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC) reply

Your comments are very well-intentioned. Please keep in mind, though, that an encyclopedia isn't a PowerPoint presentation. There is no reason we should be worried about making "charts pop" and "look more professional"; we are a reference work, and if we are appropriately sourced and well-written, we are "professional" enough. Colors, in particular, are to be deployed very carefully here because of accessibility concerns. Please see MOS:COLOUR. Information is no less valuable or professional because it doesn't "pop"! Thanks. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC) reply

I find that it would be helpful to look for more recent sources to help with this article since the latest article found is from 2015. This could be helpful for seeing if there has been any more research and new information found. Karinan99 ( talk) 00:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC) reply

Hi! I am new to the editing world of Wikipedia, but in regards to the images I think it would be helpful to add titles or short descriptions of what is being shown, kind of like a text book. Shawna Echols ( talk) 00:33, 20 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Wiki Education assignment: Adult Development Winter 2022

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 5 January 2022 and 18 April 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Austin Psych ( article contribs).

Remove sources that are not accessible to the public.

I appreciate your positive feedback on the "Attachment Theory" contribution. While it effectively provided valuable information for the general public, it appears to overlap with content found int other sections contributed by past contributors. Additionally, there to be an issue with accessibility to at least one source for the general public. The last update is in 2022, it's acknowledged that the field may have advanced, and new research on the topic is available in 2024. Consider revising the content to address these concerns and incorporate the latest information and research on "Attachment Theory".

Karemblyvilla ( talk) 02:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC) reply

Wiki Education assignment: Adult Development winter 2024

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 8 January 2024 and 20 April 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Karemblyvilla ( article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Karemblyvilla ( talk) 04:51, 29 January 2024 (UTC) reply


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