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After some contemplation I removed/commented out the statement According to the Irish historian Eamon Duffy there is no historical evidence whatever for the assumption - this seems be just ridiculous, what evidence could one expect to find here? The passage "history" does just as well without this claim and namedropping.-- Medusahead ( talk) 10:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
The book says the following: "he can find no authorized tradition about how the Virgin’s life ended" (page 11) and you say that it is closer to sources the following: "wrote of his search for reliable traditions concerning the fate of Mary and his inability to discover any."
Do you think you can make the article and modify it to your liking by altering the sources without anyone noticing? -- Rafaelosornio ( talk) 15:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
In the Wikipedia article "Assumption of Mary", there appears to me a undoubtedly involuntary misstatement of Catholic doctrine. It says: "Traditions relating to the Assumption: The Catholic Church has two different traditions concerning the assumption/dormition of Mary: in the first, she rose from the dead after a brief period and then ascended into heaven; in the second, she was 'assumed' bodily into heaven before she died." Now it is certainly not true that any tradition exists that Mary ASCENDED into Heaven. Only Jesus has done that. And the second tradition (of her Assumption) does not exclusively refer to having occurred BEFORE she died, as the same article makes clear later on. Please investigate and correct if appropriate. Considero ( talk) 02:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
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The Assumption of the Virgin Mary occurred on the Gregorian astronomic 15 August 44 CE (its Julian 17 AD). Its probable time is 9:00 IST (7:00 GMT). She was 60 years old.
200.155.120.37 ( talk) 07:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
but later in the same section we have:
I'm assuming the latter mention of Pius XII was meant to refer to Father Jugie? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 06:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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After some contemplation I removed/commented out the statement According to the Irish historian Eamon Duffy there is no historical evidence whatever for the assumption - this seems be just ridiculous, what evidence could one expect to find here? The passage "history" does just as well without this claim and namedropping.-- Medusahead ( talk) 10:59, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
The book says the following: "he can find no authorized tradition about how the Virgin’s life ended" (page 11) and you say that it is closer to sources the following: "wrote of his search for reliable traditions concerning the fate of Mary and his inability to discover any."
Do you think you can make the article and modify it to your liking by altering the sources without anyone noticing? -- Rafaelosornio ( talk) 15:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
In the Wikipedia article "Assumption of Mary", there appears to me a undoubtedly involuntary misstatement of Catholic doctrine. It says: "Traditions relating to the Assumption: The Catholic Church has two different traditions concerning the assumption/dormition of Mary: in the first, she rose from the dead after a brief period and then ascended into heaven; in the second, she was 'assumed' bodily into heaven before she died." Now it is certainly not true that any tradition exists that Mary ASCENDED into Heaven. Only Jesus has done that. And the second tradition (of her Assumption) does not exclusively refer to having occurred BEFORE she died, as the same article makes clear later on. Please investigate and correct if appropriate. Considero ( talk) 02:05, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:
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The Assumption of the Virgin Mary occurred on the Gregorian astronomic 15 August 44 CE (its Julian 17 AD). Its probable time is 9:00 IST (7:00 GMT). She was 60 years old.
200.155.120.37 ( talk) 07:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
but later in the same section we have:
I'm assuming the latter mention of Pius XII was meant to refer to Father Jugie? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 06:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)