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"The CUP allowed Armenian women to marry into Muslim households, as these women had to convert to Islam and would lose their Armenian identity."
The sources used in this article are so weak and unreliable, the authors did not even know Hanefi school of Islam (which Turks belong to) already allowed marriage between Muslim men and Christian (Armenian) women. 84.51.29.38 ( talk) 03:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
back to the one where it had the information about the genocide on the right? Peachy1621 ( talk) 05:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I propose merging the information from Rescue of Armenians during the Genocide to this page.
I think the content in other page is highly relevant but also so short that it might as well just be included here. That work might need to occur alongside analysis of the source problem flags that exist on the "rescue of..." page. Armeym ( talk) 01:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
@ Buidhe I saw you put the range, but I put "around 1 million" to similarly match the one for the Holocaust. A book by historian [[Richard G. Hovannisian]] puts the toll between 600,000 to 2 million, with a United Nations report putting it at around 1 million. Should the whole range be put or an approximate value? Reaper1945 ( talk) 03:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
When I checked the newspaper source mentioned in the article and book, I do not see anything related to this topic in both morning and evening editions dated 4 May 1915. So, this source should be removed.
Here are links of those editions, you can check:
1, Morning: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper/item/SXUBVSELYJ6H5T7YE27H43WICSTZQOSZ?issuepage=1
2, Evening: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper/item/G3BAA2LRGIH2UGC3ROEJKCI3MR4DH36F?issuepage=1 Spiny14 ( talk) 17:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
This is indeed a very strong claim that I cannot confirm in other sources. (If you look at Google scholar results, there are significantly more for the Rwandan genocide than the Armenian genocide.) Regardless, we're going to need a stronger source than one book by Bartrop to include this claim. I wonder how he arrived at this conclusion, or if he just cites Rummel from 1998. ( t · c) buidhe 04:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
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"The CUP allowed Armenian women to marry into Muslim households, as these women had to convert to Islam and would lose their Armenian identity."
The sources used in this article are so weak and unreliable, the authors did not even know Hanefi school of Islam (which Turks belong to) already allowed marriage between Muslim men and Christian (Armenian) women. 84.51.29.38 ( talk) 03:09, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
back to the one where it had the information about the genocide on the right? Peachy1621 ( talk) 05:52, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
I propose merging the information from Rescue of Armenians during the Genocide to this page.
I think the content in other page is highly relevant but also so short that it might as well just be included here. That work might need to occur alongside analysis of the source problem flags that exist on the "rescue of..." page. Armeym ( talk) 01:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
@ Buidhe I saw you put the range, but I put "around 1 million" to similarly match the one for the Holocaust. A book by historian [[Richard G. Hovannisian]] puts the toll between 600,000 to 2 million, with a United Nations report putting it at around 1 million. Should the whole range be put or an approximate value? Reaper1945 ( talk) 03:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
When I checked the newspaper source mentioned in the article and book, I do not see anything related to this topic in both morning and evening editions dated 4 May 1915. So, this source should be removed.
Here are links of those editions, you can check:
1, Morning: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper/item/SXUBVSELYJ6H5T7YE27H43WICSTZQOSZ?issuepage=1
2, Evening: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper/item/G3BAA2LRGIH2UGC3ROEJKCI3MR4DH36F?issuepage=1 Spiny14 ( talk) 17:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
This is indeed a very strong claim that I cannot confirm in other sources. (If you look at Google scholar results, there are significantly more for the Rwandan genocide than the Armenian genocide.) Regardless, we're going to need a stronger source than one book by Bartrop to include this claim. I wonder how he arrived at this conclusion, or if he just cites Rummel from 1998. ( t · c) buidhe 04:46, 14 April 2024 (UTC)