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Aqaba/Ayla as an ancient trade port: There is considerable information. Food is a major trade item and in recent years so-called Aqaba-Ayla late Roman amphorae have appeared in a wide range of places: Red seas littoral, Eretrian & Ethiopian sites, those in Western India and now a new one in Oman. Source: M. Raith – R. Hoffbauer – H. Euler – P. Yule – K. Damgaard, The view from Ẓafār – an archaeometric study of the Aqaba late Roman period pottery complex and distribution in the 1st millennium CE, Zeitschrift für Orient-Archäologie 6, 2013, 320–50, ISBN 978-3-11-019704-4. Someone can correct the editor comment, if they want to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azd0815 ( talk • contribs) 18:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
it "Resembles" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.255.68 ( talk) 22:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Removed category 'Geography of Israel' - Aqaba is not in Israel and whilst I'm not personally offended by this, I suspect others might be. I think people would object if Elat was categorised under 'Geography of Jordan'. Do others agree with my removal of the category reference? Nick Fraser 07:43, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Aqaba (Arabic: Al-'Aqabah) is a southwestern Jordanian only seaport town in bordering Elat, Israel.
I'm sorry, but I can't understand this at all, and I don't know what to correct it to. It's Jordanian-only? It's the only Jordanian seaport?
"The Ptolemaic Greeks called it Berenice, and the Romans Aila and Aelana."
The ruins of Ayla (unearthed in the 1980s by an American-Jordanian archeological team) are a few minutes walk north along the main waterfront road."
Are these the same place? -- babbage 11:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) YES IT IS FOR JORDAN AND ITS ONLY SEAPORT! I CANT EVEN BELIEVE THIS IS BROUGHT UP!!
Under WP policy, when several places have the same name, the name itself should be a disambiguation page directing readers to diff possibilities. See, e.g., Silver Spring. Since there is Aqaba, West Bank and Aqaba, Jordan the article Aqaba should be a Disambiguation Page directing readers to the two different articles. Please do not change this w/o first discussing it and achieving consensus. SelfEvidentTruths ( talk) 17:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I have restored the quotation from 1 Kings 9:26 to talk about "Eloth" rather than "Ayla", backing out a change that was part of a contribution made by Jerash ( talk · contribs) in August 2010 [1].
Various versions of the text can be browsed at [2].
The KJV [3], JPS 1917 [4], and NASB [5] all have "Eloth"; the NIV has "Elath" [6], which is also found in some other verses -- see eg the entry in Strong's concordance [7]. The two are probably plural and singular variants of the same name.
The literal Hebrew is aleph-lamed-vav-tav [8]; in present-day use tav is pronounced with a hard 't', rather that 'th', so that's why the new Israeli city was called "Eilat" rather than "Eilath".
In the Greek of the Septuagint it gets rendered Ailath (Αιλαθ) [9], and in the Latin of the Vulgate becomes Ahilam [10], the nominative form Ahila presumably just being a variant of what would at that time have been the contemporary Aila or Ayla as mentioned in the article.
Given the above, while the Vulgate does use a variant of Ayla, it seems more appropriate for our quote to use Eloth, being the form used by most English translations and closer to the original Hebrew. Jheald ( talk) 18:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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"the Hejaz railway in 1908, connecting the port to Damascus and Medina.[33]"? In the "Hejaz railway" article there is no connection with Aqaba. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.227.73.176 ( talk) 17:38, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
We need a definition for what we're talking about. As of now, we have a hodgepodge of sites. Elath is not Tell el-Kheleifeh and might or might not be at the site of Roman Aila (the Early Muslim fortified settlement is for instance outside & south of it). Good that nobody added Ezion Geber to the stew.
The "Beach of History" source is far below standard, needs to be replaced along with that entire material - and has special technical demands, without which it doesn't open.
WP-standard, reliable sources are urgently and sorely needed. Arminden ( talk) 18:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
If the city has “multiple Christian schools,” what is the justification for mentioning just one of them? If that school has some special status there should be text about it. Otherwise, name either all of them or none of them. 伟思礼 ( talk) 22:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
20 miles apart but only 7 miles by great circle route? That's absurd. 2600:100B:B134:22FA:0:3:E248:BA01 ( talk) 02:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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Aqaba/Ayla as an ancient trade port: There is considerable information. Food is a major trade item and in recent years so-called Aqaba-Ayla late Roman amphorae have appeared in a wide range of places: Red seas littoral, Eretrian & Ethiopian sites, those in Western India and now a new one in Oman. Source: M. Raith – R. Hoffbauer – H. Euler – P. Yule – K. Damgaard, The view from Ẓafār – an archaeometric study of the Aqaba late Roman period pottery complex and distribution in the 1st millennium CE, Zeitschrift für Orient-Archäologie 6, 2013, 320–50, ISBN 978-3-11-019704-4. Someone can correct the editor comment, if they want to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Azd0815 ( talk • contribs) 18:11, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
it "Resembles" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.255.68 ( talk) 22:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Removed category 'Geography of Israel' - Aqaba is not in Israel and whilst I'm not personally offended by this, I suspect others might be. I think people would object if Elat was categorised under 'Geography of Jordan'. Do others agree with my removal of the category reference? Nick Fraser 07:43, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Aqaba (Arabic: Al-'Aqabah) is a southwestern Jordanian only seaport town in bordering Elat, Israel.
I'm sorry, but I can't understand this at all, and I don't know what to correct it to. It's Jordanian-only? It's the only Jordanian seaport?
"The Ptolemaic Greeks called it Berenice, and the Romans Aila and Aelana."
The ruins of Ayla (unearthed in the 1980s by an American-Jordanian archeological team) are a few minutes walk north along the main waterfront road."
Are these the same place? -- babbage 11:45, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) YES IT IS FOR JORDAN AND ITS ONLY SEAPORT! I CANT EVEN BELIEVE THIS IS BROUGHT UP!!
Under WP policy, when several places have the same name, the name itself should be a disambiguation page directing readers to diff possibilities. See, e.g., Silver Spring. Since there is Aqaba, West Bank and Aqaba, Jordan the article Aqaba should be a Disambiguation Page directing readers to the two different articles. Please do not change this w/o first discussing it and achieving consensus. SelfEvidentTruths ( talk) 17:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I have restored the quotation from 1 Kings 9:26 to talk about "Eloth" rather than "Ayla", backing out a change that was part of a contribution made by Jerash ( talk · contribs) in August 2010 [1].
Various versions of the text can be browsed at [2].
The KJV [3], JPS 1917 [4], and NASB [5] all have "Eloth"; the NIV has "Elath" [6], which is also found in some other verses -- see eg the entry in Strong's concordance [7]. The two are probably plural and singular variants of the same name.
The literal Hebrew is aleph-lamed-vav-tav [8]; in present-day use tav is pronounced with a hard 't', rather that 'th', so that's why the new Israeli city was called "Eilat" rather than "Eilath".
In the Greek of the Septuagint it gets rendered Ailath (Αιλαθ) [9], and in the Latin of the Vulgate becomes Ahilam [10], the nominative form Ahila presumably just being a variant of what would at that time have been the contemporary Aila or Ayla as mentioned in the article.
Given the above, while the Vulgate does use a variant of Ayla, it seems more appropriate for our quote to use Eloth, being the form used by most English translations and closer to the original Hebrew. Jheald ( talk) 18:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
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"the Hejaz railway in 1908, connecting the port to Damascus and Medina.[33]"? In the "Hejaz railway" article there is no connection with Aqaba. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.227.73.176 ( talk) 17:38, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
We need a definition for what we're talking about. As of now, we have a hodgepodge of sites. Elath is not Tell el-Kheleifeh and might or might not be at the site of Roman Aila (the Early Muslim fortified settlement is for instance outside & south of it). Good that nobody added Ezion Geber to the stew.
The "Beach of History" source is far below standard, needs to be replaced along with that entire material - and has special technical demands, without which it doesn't open.
WP-standard, reliable sources are urgently and sorely needed. Arminden ( talk) 18:01, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
If the city has “multiple Christian schools,” what is the justification for mentioning just one of them? If that school has some special status there should be text about it. Otherwise, name either all of them or none of them. 伟思礼 ( talk) 22:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
20 miles apart but only 7 miles by great circle route? That's absurd. 2600:100B:B134:22FA:0:3:E248:BA01 ( talk) 02:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)