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Up until recently Henry Morgentaler was defined in this article as abortionist. Recently Users: Jon Kolbert & Newimpartial have changed it to be merely pro-choice advocate, which is true but doesn;t summarize the whole essence of Dr. Morgentaler who didn't merely advocate, he actively performed abortions during time when they were banned. The term abortionist is also not a WP:OR, here is an example [1] of this term being used to describe Henry Morgentaler. So i believe the term abortionist should be reinstated. Shemtovca ( talk) 22:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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Suggested edit: replace the red link with " long gun registry". 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:B9A4:54A6:51E1:92B4 ( talk) 06:50, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
How are we ignoring that he's largely the champion for the extreme-right/anti immigration groups in Canada? Probably should be in this article. Ael8008 ( talk) 08:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Citation needed. -- 47.37.56.179 ( talk) 22:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I thought I should create a discussion about this before editing as it's potentially controversial. The subject came up this morning on CTV Question Period, and Robert Fife said very definitively Scheer did not work as an Insurance Broker/sell Insurance, contrary to what his biography and other available sources describe. I did some digging and the Province of Saskatchewan, where Scheeer claims to have been a Broker requires that only license holders may call themselves such
"No agent shall engage in the insurance brokerage business or hold himself out as an insurance broker unless he is specifically authorized by his licence to engage in the insurance brokerage business." Source
This is a problem because according to Insurance Council of Saskatchewan, Scheer was never a license holder.
I'm not sure how best to handle this because it looks like the published sources are giving bad information, and we don't have verifiable sources showing what he actually did. I think the best option is to remove the reference altogether, but I'll defer to the discussion. JosephMacNeil ( talk) 17:09, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I agree, If the word Broker changed to Clerk, and that has been misrepresented for years and the point in controversial this should be noted on Wikipedia in the main entry. Facts are facts. CFisher68 ( talk) 02:16, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree, If the word Broker changed to Clerk, and that has been misrepresented for years and the point in controversial this should be noted on Wikipedia in the main entry. Facts are facts. CFisher68 ( talk) 02:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree, If the word Broker changed to Clerk, and that has been misrepresented for years and the point in controversial this should be noted on Wikipedia in the main entry. Facts are facts. CFisher68 ( talk) 02:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
This usage is outdated but appears numerous times in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.69.63.98 ( talk) 03:53, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
My observation is that the article appears to be a "hatchet job" strongly biased against Mr. Scheer, cataloguing everything negative about him, in a sneering, pejorative tone, and stating very little about any positive achievements. The article needs to be totally rewritten in a neutral, impartial manner. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED PRONTO! I AM WILLING TO TAKE THE TIME TO EDIT THIS TO MAKE IT IMPARTIAL AND NEUTRAL & DELETE ANY DUBIOUS OR SNEERING-TONED MATERIAL! But your LOCK prevents me from doing that!
I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THE VERY LEAST THAT THERE BE IMMEDIATELY POSTED AT THE TOP: THE IMPARTIALITY OF THIS ARTICLE HAS BEEN QUESTIONED, AND THERE IS MUCH IN THE ARTICLE THAT MAY BE LIBELLOUS, AND/OR UNSUBSTANTIATED.
My take: Dual citizenship is adequately addressed in the sidebar and (at length) later on. The actors previously mentioned by another editor as Canadian American in their intro (Trebek & Fox) were born/raised in Canada and worked in the US, establishing the context for the importance of raising the dual identity in the intro. More relevantly, we have two recent precedents of major Canadian political party leaders of dual-citizenship gained through a parent: Stephane Dion & Tom Mulcair. No "Canadian French politician" in their intros, but mentioned elsewhere. The fact that we have a third now, from a different party from each of the others, makes it seem like mentioning the dual-citizenship in the intro now might not be fair when other party leaders are introduced as "Canadian" right away and their secondary citizenship (also gained through a parent, not by living/working there personally) is mentioned elsewhere. Cavernousknoll ( talk) 09:44, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
References
Please include this -
Scheer will become the first permanent leader of the current Conservative Party not to become Prime Minister. 114.74.89.165 ( talk) 15:41, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-scheer-ranks-1.5394087
"Scheer will be the first leader of an undivided Conservative party to never become prime minister since Stanfield, who resigned in 1976."
How about this: "Scheer will become the first permanent leader of an undivided Conservative party who did not become prime minister Robert Stanfield and the first under the current Conservative Party of Canada banner." 114.74.89.165 ( talk) 14:21, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
According to sources, he resigned on December 12 effective immediately as leader of the party. Shortly after, the party caucus (who had to name an interim leader, due to Scheer's immediate resignation, rather then sticking around until a permanent successor was chosen) chose Scheer as interim leader. Perhaps we should reflect this in the infobox & the rest of the article? GoodDay ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
In any case, clearly information was missing from his page about this, just stating he had some Romanian origins was not enough, and there was some good information to be found about some of his ancestors originating from New York City, others being of Irish descent, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tolkien5 ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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Change: "On 12 December 2019, Scheer announced he would be resigning as the leader of the Conservative Party effective upon the election of a new one.[14][15]" to: "On 12 December 2019, Scheer announced he would be resigning as the leader of the Conservative Party effective upon the election of a new one as a result of the discovery that he was using Conservative Party money to pay for his children’s private schooling.[14][15]"
Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/6288286/andrew-scheer-resignation/ Bobmcfay ( talk) 04:56, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
The infobox is missing Scheer's time as Speaker of the House. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.101.227 ( talk) 03:22, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please change Andrew James Scheer PC MP (born 20 May 1979) is a Canadian politician who currently< to
Andrew James Scheer
PC
MP (born 20 May 1979) is a dual national Canadian/American politician who currently<
see https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-has-american-citizenship-1.5307986 Christo2000 ( talk) 14:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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The office title of 'Deputy Speaker' has the 'S' in speaker lowercased (i.e. "s"). Please change it to reflect the rules of grammar. 138.51.251.15 ( talk) 07:40, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Pinging @ Randusk: who made the original change and @ Lord Stephenson: who reverted and requested talk page consensus.
Any thoughts on changing the lead image from 1 to a cropped version of 2 (as seen here)?
This is a much better photo Ak-eater06 ( talk) 01:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Exactly why were there attempts to remove Scheer's birthdate from his article's intro & infobox? GoodDay ( talk) 08:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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Up until recently Henry Morgentaler was defined in this article as abortionist. Recently Users: Jon Kolbert & Newimpartial have changed it to be merely pro-choice advocate, which is true but doesn;t summarize the whole essence of Dr. Morgentaler who didn't merely advocate, he actively performed abortions during time when they were banned. The term abortionist is also not a WP:OR, here is an example [1] of this term being used to describe Henry Morgentaler. So i believe the term abortionist should be reinstated. Shemtovca ( talk) 22:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
References
Suggested edit: replace the red link with " long gun registry". 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:B9A4:54A6:51E1:92B4 ( talk) 06:50, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
How are we ignoring that he's largely the champion for the extreme-right/anti immigration groups in Canada? Probably should be in this article. Ael8008 ( talk) 08:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Citation needed. -- 47.37.56.179 ( talk) 22:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I thought I should create a discussion about this before editing as it's potentially controversial. The subject came up this morning on CTV Question Period, and Robert Fife said very definitively Scheer did not work as an Insurance Broker/sell Insurance, contrary to what his biography and other available sources describe. I did some digging and the Province of Saskatchewan, where Scheeer claims to have been a Broker requires that only license holders may call themselves such
"No agent shall engage in the insurance brokerage business or hold himself out as an insurance broker unless he is specifically authorized by his licence to engage in the insurance brokerage business." Source
This is a problem because according to Insurance Council of Saskatchewan, Scheer was never a license holder.
I'm not sure how best to handle this because it looks like the published sources are giving bad information, and we don't have verifiable sources showing what he actually did. I think the best option is to remove the reference altogether, but I'll defer to the discussion. JosephMacNeil ( talk) 17:09, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
I agree, If the word Broker changed to Clerk, and that has been misrepresented for years and the point in controversial this should be noted on Wikipedia in the main entry. Facts are facts. CFisher68 ( talk) 02:16, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree, If the word Broker changed to Clerk, and that has been misrepresented for years and the point in controversial this should be noted on Wikipedia in the main entry. Facts are facts. CFisher68 ( talk) 02:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
I agree, If the word Broker changed to Clerk, and that has been misrepresented for years and the point in controversial this should be noted on Wikipedia in the main entry. Facts are facts. CFisher68 ( talk) 02:20, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
This usage is outdated but appears numerous times in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.69.63.98 ( talk) 03:53, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
My observation is that the article appears to be a "hatchet job" strongly biased against Mr. Scheer, cataloguing everything negative about him, in a sneering, pejorative tone, and stating very little about any positive achievements. The article needs to be totally rewritten in a neutral, impartial manner. THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED PRONTO! I AM WILLING TO TAKE THE TIME TO EDIT THIS TO MAKE IT IMPARTIAL AND NEUTRAL & DELETE ANY DUBIOUS OR SNEERING-TONED MATERIAL! But your LOCK prevents me from doing that!
I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THE VERY LEAST THAT THERE BE IMMEDIATELY POSTED AT THE TOP: THE IMPARTIALITY OF THIS ARTICLE HAS BEEN QUESTIONED, AND THERE IS MUCH IN THE ARTICLE THAT MAY BE LIBELLOUS, AND/OR UNSUBSTANTIATED.
My take: Dual citizenship is adequately addressed in the sidebar and (at length) later on. The actors previously mentioned by another editor as Canadian American in their intro (Trebek & Fox) were born/raised in Canada and worked in the US, establishing the context for the importance of raising the dual identity in the intro. More relevantly, we have two recent precedents of major Canadian political party leaders of dual-citizenship gained through a parent: Stephane Dion & Tom Mulcair. No "Canadian French politician" in their intros, but mentioned elsewhere. The fact that we have a third now, from a different party from each of the others, makes it seem like mentioning the dual-citizenship in the intro now might not be fair when other party leaders are introduced as "Canadian" right away and their secondary citizenship (also gained through a parent, not by living/working there personally) is mentioned elsewhere. Cavernousknoll ( talk) 09:44, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
References
Please include this -
Scheer will become the first permanent leader of the current Conservative Party not to become Prime Minister. 114.74.89.165 ( talk) 15:41, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/grenier-scheer-ranks-1.5394087
"Scheer will be the first leader of an undivided Conservative party to never become prime minister since Stanfield, who resigned in 1976."
How about this: "Scheer will become the first permanent leader of an undivided Conservative party who did not become prime minister Robert Stanfield and the first under the current Conservative Party of Canada banner." 114.74.89.165 ( talk) 14:21, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
According to sources, he resigned on December 12 effective immediately as leader of the party. Shortly after, the party caucus (who had to name an interim leader, due to Scheer's immediate resignation, rather then sticking around until a permanent successor was chosen) chose Scheer as interim leader. Perhaps we should reflect this in the infobox & the rest of the article? GoodDay ( talk) 16:14, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
In any case, clearly information was missing from his page about this, just stating he had some Romanian origins was not enough, and there was some good information to be found about some of his ancestors originating from New York City, others being of Irish descent, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tolkien5 ( talk • contribs) 19:01, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
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Change: "On 12 December 2019, Scheer announced he would be resigning as the leader of the Conservative Party effective upon the election of a new one.[14][15]" to: "On 12 December 2019, Scheer announced he would be resigning as the leader of the Conservative Party effective upon the election of a new one as a result of the discovery that he was using Conservative Party money to pay for his children’s private schooling.[14][15]"
Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/6288286/andrew-scheer-resignation/ Bobmcfay ( talk) 04:56, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
The infobox is missing Scheer's time as Speaker of the House. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.101.227 ( talk) 03:22, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Please change Andrew James Scheer PC MP (born 20 May 1979) is a Canadian politician who currently< to
Andrew James Scheer
PC
MP (born 20 May 1979) is a dual national Canadian/American politician who currently<
see https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-has-american-citizenship-1.5307986 Christo2000 ( talk) 14:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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The office title of 'Deputy Speaker' has the 'S' in speaker lowercased (i.e. "s"). Please change it to reflect the rules of grammar. 138.51.251.15 ( talk) 07:40, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Pinging @ Randusk: who made the original change and @ Lord Stephenson: who reverted and requested talk page consensus.
Any thoughts on changing the lead image from 1 to a cropped version of 2 (as seen here)?
This is a much better photo Ak-eater06 ( talk) 01:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Exactly why were there attempts to remove Scheer's birthdate from his article's intro & infobox? GoodDay ( talk) 08:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)