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Assault Allegations

Over the last week serious accusations against Callaghan have risen to public attention. Several women have come forward, accusing Callaghan of sexual misconduct and assault. Here's a recent video discussing the allegations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D1yD-282XE

Callaghan has not yet released a statement, but the accusations seem noteworthy nonetheless.

Maybe this information could be added to the main page in the form of a controversy-section. 2A02:8070:4681:4C00:21D8:A93E:49E:BB1D ( talk) 13:29, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply

I added it to personal life, fdepending on what more info comes out/more reliable sources reporting on it we may want to add a section for it, similar to in Walter Lewin's page. Endated ( talk) 14:48, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Rolling Stone just released an article covering the allegations https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/andrew-callaghan-hbo-this-place-rules-sexual-misconduct-allegations-1234658336/ perhaps this can be used to source a section regarding the allegations against Callaghan? Dahna2024 ( talk) 18:55, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Rolling Stone's reporting on anything but culture (music, movies, etc.) is no longer considered reliable on Wikipedia: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Rolling_Stone_(politics_and_society,_2011%E2%80%93present) I will go ahead and remove the citation until we can find something more credible. Planetjanet ( talk) 01:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Here's the link to the original accusation video by Caroline Elise: https://www.tiktok.com/@cornbreadasserole/video/7185239799916203306
here's a video (part of a thread) by a second woman about her negative experience with Callaghan: https://www.tiktok.com/@moldyfreckle/video/7186164859233504554
Ethan Klein of h3h3Productions claims to have personally spoken to Callaghan about the accusations.
I'm not sure if any of these statements could be considered credible by Wikipedia. 2A02:8070:4681:4C00:563:AAEC:7358:54AB ( talk) 16:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply
No, none of those are considered credible by Wikipedia because they're primary sources. Wikipedia is basically a collection of what mainstream media considers to be true, not a collection of actual truths, as backwards as that seems. Planetjanet ( talk) 01:23, 13 January 2023 (UTC) reply

The A.V. Club is now cited as the source for the sex pest claims, and it's a reliable source as per WP:RSP, but the A.V. Club article itself still cites Rolling Stone, as do all of the other ones I can find on Google News. I'm not sure if this meets Wikipedia's reliability standards. But I'll leave it up because I just don't know. Could someone who is familiar with what to do in this situation please comment? Planetjanet ( talk) 05:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Rolling Stone should not be used for something like this. We shouldn’t be using sources that are basing their reporting on Rolling Stone either. Thriley ( talk) 06:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply

  • He has responded to the accusations in a statement made via his "legal representative" to Variety: https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/andrew-callaghan-responds-allegations-sexual-assault-1235488040/. I don't know what he meant by "repeated requests for money" (is he trying to say the women were demanding money from him?), so I didn't know how to summarise it and just left the full quote in. If/when he clarifies what that means I think it will be easier to summarise it in less words. Endwise ( talk) 00:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    I just read talk pages but I believe you should delete the part about money, if not the entire accusation. To the point, it could seem unfair to Callaghan to perhaps imply he responded with vague and/or unsubstantiated claims. sarcasm: It seems objectively inaccurate but being a noteworthy figure and the target of an angry mob, his sexual encounters around the time he was 18 are important to humanity's future. /sarcam. A reminder to editors, this is not about mainstream media vs. "the truth," it's about evidence, if there is none, do you wonder why? 2001:558:6014:7C:6446:DBF0:DB69:B524 ( talk) 00:51, 14 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    i don't want to edit this, sorry, but to answer you, callaghan showed text messages with the first "accuser" asking for money to pay for the therapy sessions re: 18 year old drunken consensual sex. Is this not a stunt by channel 5 tp demonstrate to stupid people are? If so bravo 2001:558:6014:7C:6446:DBF0:DB69:B524 ( talk) 01:06, 14 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    Reading this quote was confusing for me when I tried to figure out what was going on with him lately without any context.
    I saw that someone's youtube comment on his apology video pointed to a summarizing reddit thread [1], which then linked to a screenshot of the message requesting the money [2], and this seems a very different kind of message than what that quote might imply out of context.
    I have no idea how any of this works on wikipedia, and obviously some random screenshot posted on reddit isn't a credible source, so I'm open to hearing how best to resolve this. Japhir ( talk) 21:54, 9 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Should we make a subsection to cover this? Pumpkineatingme ( talk) 20:22, 14 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Should we add something about the video he released? Endated ( talk) 12:58, 17 January 2023 (UTC) reply
There's a sentence about it there now. Possibly it should have its own paragraph if it's getting drowned out by the quote from Variety. Endwise ( talk) 13:18, 17 January 2023 (UTC) reply

There have been more allegations regarding him "stealthing" women (secretly removing the condom during sex). MickRide808 ( talk) 00:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Political Views

There is a recent Lex Fridman podcast with him (issue 425, April 13); with interesting political views (and his life story, etc.).-- Ralfdetlef ( talk) 05:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for speedy deletion

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You can see the reasons for deletion at the file description pages linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 09:07, 16 January 2022 (UTC) reply

Assault Allegations

Over the last week serious accusations against Callaghan have risen to public attention. Several women have come forward, accusing Callaghan of sexual misconduct and assault. Here's a recent video discussing the allegations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D1yD-282XE

Callaghan has not yet released a statement, but the accusations seem noteworthy nonetheless.

Maybe this information could be added to the main page in the form of a controversy-section. 2A02:8070:4681:4C00:21D8:A93E:49E:BB1D ( talk) 13:29, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply

I added it to personal life, fdepending on what more info comes out/more reliable sources reporting on it we may want to add a section for it, similar to in Walter Lewin's page. Endated ( talk) 14:48, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Rolling Stone just released an article covering the allegations https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/andrew-callaghan-hbo-this-place-rules-sexual-misconduct-allegations-1234658336/ perhaps this can be used to source a section regarding the allegations against Callaghan? Dahna2024 ( talk) 18:55, 10 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Rolling Stone's reporting on anything but culture (music, movies, etc.) is no longer considered reliable on Wikipedia: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Rolling_Stone_(politics_and_society,_2011%E2%80%93present) I will go ahead and remove the citation until we can find something more credible. Planetjanet ( talk) 01:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply
Here's the link to the original accusation video by Caroline Elise: https://www.tiktok.com/@cornbreadasserole/video/7185239799916203306
here's a video (part of a thread) by a second woman about her negative experience with Callaghan: https://www.tiktok.com/@moldyfreckle/video/7186164859233504554
Ethan Klein of h3h3Productions claims to have personally spoken to Callaghan about the accusations.
I'm not sure if any of these statements could be considered credible by Wikipedia. 2A02:8070:4681:4C00:563:AAEC:7358:54AB ( talk) 16:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply
No, none of those are considered credible by Wikipedia because they're primary sources. Wikipedia is basically a collection of what mainstream media considers to be true, not a collection of actual truths, as backwards as that seems. Planetjanet ( talk) 01:23, 13 January 2023 (UTC) reply

The A.V. Club is now cited as the source for the sex pest claims, and it's a reliable source as per WP:RSP, but the A.V. Club article itself still cites Rolling Stone, as do all of the other ones I can find on Google News. I'm not sure if this meets Wikipedia's reliability standards. But I'll leave it up because I just don't know. Could someone who is familiar with what to do in this situation please comment? Planetjanet ( talk) 05:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Rolling Stone should not be used for something like this. We shouldn’t be using sources that are basing their reporting on Rolling Stone either. Thriley ( talk) 06:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC) reply

  • He has responded to the accusations in a statement made via his "legal representative" to Variety: https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/andrew-callaghan-responds-allegations-sexual-assault-1235488040/. I don't know what he meant by "repeated requests for money" (is he trying to say the women were demanding money from him?), so I didn't know how to summarise it and just left the full quote in. If/when he clarifies what that means I think it will be easier to summarise it in less words. Endwise ( talk) 00:00, 13 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    I just read talk pages but I believe you should delete the part about money, if not the entire accusation. To the point, it could seem unfair to Callaghan to perhaps imply he responded with vague and/or unsubstantiated claims. sarcasm: It seems objectively inaccurate but being a noteworthy figure and the target of an angry mob, his sexual encounters around the time he was 18 are important to humanity's future. /sarcam. A reminder to editors, this is not about mainstream media vs. "the truth," it's about evidence, if there is none, do you wonder why? 2001:558:6014:7C:6446:DBF0:DB69:B524 ( talk) 00:51, 14 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    i don't want to edit this, sorry, but to answer you, callaghan showed text messages with the first "accuser" asking for money to pay for the therapy sessions re: 18 year old drunken consensual sex. Is this not a stunt by channel 5 tp demonstrate to stupid people are? If so bravo 2001:558:6014:7C:6446:DBF0:DB69:B524 ( talk) 01:06, 14 January 2023 (UTC) reply
    Reading this quote was confusing for me when I tried to figure out what was going on with him lately without any context.
    I saw that someone's youtube comment on his apology video pointed to a summarizing reddit thread [1], which then linked to a screenshot of the message requesting the money [2], and this seems a very different kind of message than what that quote might imply out of context.
    I have no idea how any of this works on wikipedia, and obviously some random screenshot posted on reddit isn't a credible source, so I'm open to hearing how best to resolve this. Japhir ( talk) 21:54, 9 September 2023 (UTC) reply

Should we make a subsection to cover this? Pumpkineatingme ( talk) 20:22, 14 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Should we add something about the video he released? Endated ( talk) 12:58, 17 January 2023 (UTC) reply
There's a sentence about it there now. Possibly it should have its own paragraph if it's getting drowned out by the quote from Variety. Endwise ( talk) 13:18, 17 January 2023 (UTC) reply

There have been more allegations regarding him "stealthing" women (secretly removing the condom during sex). MickRide808 ( talk) 00:20, 19 January 2023 (UTC) reply

Political Views

There is a recent Lex Fridman podcast with him (issue 425, April 13); with interesting political views (and his life story, etc.).-- Ralfdetlef ( talk) 05:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply


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