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I propose merging Aunt Nancy into this.-- Atlantima 14:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone verify the accuracy of the final line in the opening paragraph?
"Eventually, Anansi was replaced by a chameleon."
If my memory serves me correctly :
- The bushmen of Southern Africa do revere the chameleon as a god.
- Situated slightly further to the north of Southern Africa the Zulu's have tales of Anansi. They however have tales of the chameleon that clearly define him as a separate entity.
To read some of the traditional Zulu stories - [ google: chameleon Zulu ]
I do not recall ever hearing of the chameleon as a successor to Anansi though.
--
Sandman303 10:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The differences between Jamaican and African stories need to be noted. I won't do it, since I'm unsure of the extent of the differences, but for instance, Anansi's parentage differs. Sarten-X 08:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
From the article:
This, in its present form, couldn't have been part of the original Ashanti tale: jaguars live in South America, not Africa. -- Saforrest 22:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Also the next sentences make it sound like it was a Tiger/Lion to begin with —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 ( talk) 15:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
This third paragraph in the second section is ridiculous. While it is important to mention the Tar baby story it was not the only time he's ever been tricked. In fact the pictures from this article are from a site with another story where he is tricked. This erroneous sentence should be changed.
Request: Could someone who knows how the name "Anansi" is pronounced please add the IPA pronunciation to the first line of the article? KevinTernes ( talk) 19:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I will have to get back to you on that. My mother is Asante (Ashanti is the English version) and knows the stories well. She is a great, great (I think that that's right) granddaughter of Yaa Asantewaa. The whole page needs editing but I need to let my mother do it. The Akan spelling is Ananse - that is the original. ( Zippstar ( talk) 00:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC))
As well as a little editing, I've added an expanded summary of the tale of how Anansi got his stories. I've also linked this with the extensive picture book publication that has grown up around him, and this tale in particular. I've tried not to remove anything that I haven't expanded, though I've moved it about a bit. There is a lot more that can be done...-- Annielogue ( talk) 13:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I have added a small section concerning the relationship of the Br'er Rabbit stories to Ananse, expanding a sentence in the original article and adding some references to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethdhelwen ( talk • contribs) 10:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
This article talks about the stories, and even a tells the meta-story of how the stories came about, but it does not enumerate the stories themselves. Is there a core corpus of widely recognized tales? Or are there many variations making this impossible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.192.1 ( talk) 16:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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@ Bageragr: Failure to cite a reliable source stating the notability of a recently published work gives off the impression that this is just SPAM. Given the fact that it's also self-published increases the probability. Please cite a reliable source that states in any way that this work is notable. DonQuixote ( talk) 16:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
@ DonQuixote: I think you're missing a point here. This article is about Anansi, isn't it? The comics section isn't about comics, in general, it isn't about comics referencing/ inspired by this god of the African mythology (that's why it's under References in popular culture). This comic book IS related to the context of the article. I don't say that is the most important, or whatever, but it is related. In this context, it should be included. Also, if you read the whole comics section, in reality there's only one external source, which is actually an issue of Spider-man! Based on your line of arguments, the whole section should be removed. Moreover, Kickstarter IS a reliable source in this context, because it proves that this project existed and successfully crowdfunded, as stated in the text that you've removed. You also make the assumption that because this graphic novel is self-published, then, the probability of spam is greater. Perhaps you're right, but then, explain me why, if I wanted to spam, to clearly write that it is self-published under this imprint, and not just write down the name of the imprint and hide the self-publication fact. Last, but not least, you accuse me of spamming. Well, check my contributions and see that I'm not a new user, neither going around changing whatever article without a reason. Michail Dim. Drakomathioulakis ( talk) 17:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
The notability guidelines do not apply to article or list content (with the exception that some lists restrict inclusion to notable items or people).(emphasis mine) DonQuixote ( talk) 18:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
This article is incomplete, and missing a great deal of citations for its information. Much of information is unsourced and should either be removed or ,if an appropriate citation is found, given a proper citation for its information. This article is also poorly written/developed and requires cleanup and should be rewritten so that it's encyclopedic in tone. The article should be rewritten into the following sections: Etymology Folk Beliefs Folk Tales Origins Artistic Representations References in Popular Culture
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This is an encyclopedia there is no need to write massive paragraphs for this guy. CycoMa ( talk) 04:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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The initial image that I included in the article was a fashion editorial photo that honored Anansi. I saw that the appropriateness of a modern interpretation of Anansi was in question, so I just uploaded an illustration. As free images of Anansi and other African deities are very limited, there aren't really any historical images I was able to find. How are we feeling about the current illustration? It's modern, but it's the only piece that I have. Feedback? MiddleOfAfrica ( talk) 20:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Removing things, just ebcause you personally found it does not fall within the guidlines of Wikipiedia. Evryone is offented by anything now a days, but the image has very well-defined traits associated with Anansi. If there were older images or artistic depictions of them that could be of use. However, the image is good as it is.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 21:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
I hate to say it but I have my doubts about the veracity of a LOT of information in this article Jondvdsn1 ( talk) 17:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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I propose merging Aunt Nancy into this.-- Atlantima 14:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone verify the accuracy of the final line in the opening paragraph?
"Eventually, Anansi was replaced by a chameleon."
If my memory serves me correctly :
- The bushmen of Southern Africa do revere the chameleon as a god.
- Situated slightly further to the north of Southern Africa the Zulu's have tales of Anansi. They however have tales of the chameleon that clearly define him as a separate entity.
To read some of the traditional Zulu stories - [ google: chameleon Zulu ]
I do not recall ever hearing of the chameleon as a successor to Anansi though.
--
Sandman303 10:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
The differences between Jamaican and African stories need to be noted. I won't do it, since I'm unsure of the extent of the differences, but for instance, Anansi's parentage differs. Sarten-X 08:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
From the article:
This, in its present form, couldn't have been part of the original Ashanti tale: jaguars live in South America, not Africa. -- Saforrest 22:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Also the next sentences make it sound like it was a Tiger/Lion to begin with —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 ( talk) 15:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
This third paragraph in the second section is ridiculous. While it is important to mention the Tar baby story it was not the only time he's ever been tricked. In fact the pictures from this article are from a site with another story where he is tricked. This erroneous sentence should be changed.
Request: Could someone who knows how the name "Anansi" is pronounced please add the IPA pronunciation to the first line of the article? KevinTernes ( talk) 19:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I will have to get back to you on that. My mother is Asante (Ashanti is the English version) and knows the stories well. She is a great, great (I think that that's right) granddaughter of Yaa Asantewaa. The whole page needs editing but I need to let my mother do it. The Akan spelling is Ananse - that is the original. ( Zippstar ( talk) 00:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC))
As well as a little editing, I've added an expanded summary of the tale of how Anansi got his stories. I've also linked this with the extensive picture book publication that has grown up around him, and this tale in particular. I've tried not to remove anything that I haven't expanded, though I've moved it about a bit. There is a lot more that can be done...-- Annielogue ( talk) 13:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
I have added a small section concerning the relationship of the Br'er Rabbit stories to Ananse, expanding a sentence in the original article and adding some references to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ethdhelwen ( talk • contribs) 10:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
This article talks about the stories, and even a tells the meta-story of how the stories came about, but it does not enumerate the stories themselves. Is there a core corpus of widely recognized tales? Or are there many variations making this impossible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.192.1 ( talk) 16:08, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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@ Bageragr: Failure to cite a reliable source stating the notability of a recently published work gives off the impression that this is just SPAM. Given the fact that it's also self-published increases the probability. Please cite a reliable source that states in any way that this work is notable. DonQuixote ( talk) 16:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
@ DonQuixote: I think you're missing a point here. This article is about Anansi, isn't it? The comics section isn't about comics, in general, it isn't about comics referencing/ inspired by this god of the African mythology (that's why it's under References in popular culture). This comic book IS related to the context of the article. I don't say that is the most important, or whatever, but it is related. In this context, it should be included. Also, if you read the whole comics section, in reality there's only one external source, which is actually an issue of Spider-man! Based on your line of arguments, the whole section should be removed. Moreover, Kickstarter IS a reliable source in this context, because it proves that this project existed and successfully crowdfunded, as stated in the text that you've removed. You also make the assumption that because this graphic novel is self-published, then, the probability of spam is greater. Perhaps you're right, but then, explain me why, if I wanted to spam, to clearly write that it is self-published under this imprint, and not just write down the name of the imprint and hide the self-publication fact. Last, but not least, you accuse me of spamming. Well, check my contributions and see that I'm not a new user, neither going around changing whatever article without a reason. Michail Dim. Drakomathioulakis ( talk) 17:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
The notability guidelines do not apply to article or list content (with the exception that some lists restrict inclusion to notable items or people).(emphasis mine) DonQuixote ( talk) 18:34, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
This article is incomplete, and missing a great deal of citations for its information. Much of information is unsourced and should either be removed or ,if an appropriate citation is found, given a proper citation for its information. This article is also poorly written/developed and requires cleanup and should be rewritten so that it's encyclopedic in tone. The article should be rewritten into the following sections: Etymology Folk Beliefs Folk Tales Origins Artistic Representations References in Popular Culture
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This is an encyclopedia there is no need to write massive paragraphs for this guy. CycoMa ( talk) 04:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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The summary of page 19 to 21 207.191.244.146 ( talk) 22:12, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
The initial image that I included in the article was a fashion editorial photo that honored Anansi. I saw that the appropriateness of a modern interpretation of Anansi was in question, so I just uploaded an illustration. As free images of Anansi and other African deities are very limited, there aren't really any historical images I was able to find. How are we feeling about the current illustration? It's modern, but it's the only piece that I have. Feedback? MiddleOfAfrica ( talk) 20:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
Removing things, just ebcause you personally found it does not fall within the guidlines of Wikipiedia. Evryone is offented by anything now a days, but the image has very well-defined traits associated with Anansi. If there were older images or artistic depictions of them that could be of use. However, the image is good as it is.-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 21:42, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
I hate to say it but I have my doubts about the veracity of a LOT of information in this article Jondvdsn1 ( talk) 17:04, 14 December 2023 (UTC)