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In what respect could Gregor Strasser have participated in the 1943 Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler, given he was murdered in the Night of the Long Knives nine years earlier?
- The article should have stated Otto, not Gregor, Strasser, as the informant. Otto was in Canada and was interviewed there by Langer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SixBlueFish ( talk • contribs) 12:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! In my honest opinion, the main part of this article, "History", confuses two reports, that are both available online:
- Henry A. Murray: Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler: With Predictions of His Future Behavior and Suggestions for Dealing with Him Now and After Germany's Surrender. 1943. Online at Donovan Nuremberg Trials Collection, Cornell University Law Library.
- Walter C. Langer: A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler. His Life and Legend. Online at Nizkor.org.
Those reports' deveopment is connected, but they are not identical. I corrected the external links, that claimed:
- PDF version of the full Hitler study from Cornell University.
- HTML version at Nizkor.org
Greetings from Germany -- Emkaer ( talk) 14:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- You are quite right, they are radically different in fact, but: How are they connected? Langer clearly states that he personally received the commission for the study from Donovan in his 1972 book. And that he wrote the report alone, because time didn't allow anything else. SixBlueFish ( talk) 11:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- OK I've done some internet research and found info on the subject. There were indeed 2 independent reports. This leads to the creation of a new article for the Langer report which I'll undertake as The Mind of Adolf Hitler, since that is now the more common nomenclature. SixBlueFish ( talk) 11:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sure -- are you ready to finish up the article on Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler yet :-))) ? Actually it's not clear who copied from whom, but the similarities in the section on "What will Hitler do when he starts to lose?" almost certainly suggest copying. And the biographer of Murray (Robinson) just states that Langer copied from Murray without giving Murray credit (well, Langer did not name anyone at all for credit in The Mind of Adolf Hitler, so it was not just Murray who may have felt "slighted".) It's interesting to try to piece together what actually happened though. SixBlueFish ( talk) 13:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Seems Cornell has changed the links making this article obsolete as the text needs to really match the links.
The current link to the .pdf of the Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler is here. 109.158.254.56 ( talk) 22:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, does the paper cover the impact of his physical health on his mental? My mommy said he had syphilis causing his insanity, which from my understanding is consistent with the late stages of the disease. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.161.224 ( talk) 00:53, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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In what respect could Gregor Strasser have participated in the 1943 Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler, given he was murdered in the Night of the Long Knives nine years earlier?
- The article should have stated Otto, not Gregor, Strasser, as the informant. Otto was in Canada and was interviewed there by Langer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SixBlueFish ( talk • contribs) 12:54, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! In my honest opinion, the main part of this article, "History", confuses two reports, that are both available online:
- Henry A. Murray: Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler: With Predictions of His Future Behavior and Suggestions for Dealing with Him Now and After Germany's Surrender. 1943. Online at Donovan Nuremberg Trials Collection, Cornell University Law Library.
- Walter C. Langer: A Psychological Analysis of Adolph Hitler. His Life and Legend. Online at Nizkor.org.
Those reports' deveopment is connected, but they are not identical. I corrected the external links, that claimed:
- PDF version of the full Hitler study from Cornell University.
- HTML version at Nizkor.org
Greetings from Germany -- Emkaer ( talk) 14:16, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- You are quite right, they are radically different in fact, but: How are they connected? Langer clearly states that he personally received the commission for the study from Donovan in his 1972 book. And that he wrote the report alone, because time didn't allow anything else. SixBlueFish ( talk) 11:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- OK I've done some internet research and found info on the subject. There were indeed 2 independent reports. This leads to the creation of a new article for the Langer report which I'll undertake as The Mind of Adolf Hitler, since that is now the more common nomenclature. SixBlueFish ( talk) 11:40, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sure -- are you ready to finish up the article on Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler yet :-))) ? Actually it's not clear who copied from whom, but the similarities in the section on "What will Hitler do when he starts to lose?" almost certainly suggest copying. And the biographer of Murray (Robinson) just states that Langer copied from Murray without giving Murray credit (well, Langer did not name anyone at all for credit in The Mind of Adolf Hitler, so it was not just Murray who may have felt "slighted".) It's interesting to try to piece together what actually happened though. SixBlueFish ( talk) 13:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Seems Cornell has changed the links making this article obsolete as the text needs to really match the links.
The current link to the .pdf of the Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler is here. 109.158.254.56 ( talk) 22:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, does the paper cover the impact of his physical health on his mental? My mommy said he had syphilis causing his insanity, which from my understanding is consistent with the late stages of the disease. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.161.224 ( talk) 00:53, 11 June 2016 (UTC)