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Amy Kremer letter to The U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary.
Should the letter from Amy Kremer and her organization be included into every person's Biography that was involved? The October 12, 2021 submittion to the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary has four names on it. Please look it up.
EnlightenedIllusions (
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I saw you post about this on
WT:Verifiability before being reverted (it's not a noticeboard, and not a V issue as you'll see). I assume you refer to this edit diff. A number of problems with your suggestion:
A letter to Judiciary is a
WP:Primary source (in other words, raw historical data). Wikipedia uses reliable secondary sources -- bare primary sources are only permitted as exceptions. They are never permitted in
biographies of living persons -- these types of articles have an exceptionally high threshold for inclusion of content (the short reason is we don't want to be misrepresenting or automatically parroting potentially untrue and defamatory claims about living people, who have real lives, until specific claims are well vetted by reliable secondary sources who do their own fact-checking -- and even then there's more standards.)
Now your edit itself is not really written properly for a WP article. It takes some practice and a few starts-and-stops but eventually you get a feel for the writing style (being reverted is gonna happen a lot early on). My suggestion is to begin mostly with small edits, clean-ups, and (especially helpful imho) spot-checking sources in existing text. There's a good informal manual here with a
chapter on documenting sources, and also see the
WP:Simplified ruleset for an overview of how policies work.
SamuelRiv (
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Amy Kremer letter to The U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary.
Should the letter from Amy Kremer and her organization be included into every person's Biography that was involved? The October 12, 2021 submittion to the U.S. Senate Committee of the Judiciary has four names on it. Please look it up.
EnlightenedIllusions (
talk) 19:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I saw you post about this on
WT:Verifiability before being reverted (it's not a noticeboard, and not a V issue as you'll see). I assume you refer to this edit diff. A number of problems with your suggestion:
A letter to Judiciary is a
WP:Primary source (in other words, raw historical data). Wikipedia uses reliable secondary sources -- bare primary sources are only permitted as exceptions. They are never permitted in
biographies of living persons -- these types of articles have an exceptionally high threshold for inclusion of content (the short reason is we don't want to be misrepresenting or automatically parroting potentially untrue and defamatory claims about living people, who have real lives, until specific claims are well vetted by reliable secondary sources who do their own fact-checking -- and even then there's more standards.)
Now your edit itself is not really written properly for a WP article. It takes some practice and a few starts-and-stops but eventually you get a feel for the writing style (being reverted is gonna happen a lot early on). My suggestion is to begin mostly with small edits, clean-ups, and (especially helpful imho) spot-checking sources in existing text. There's a good informal manual here with a
chapter on documenting sources, and also see the
WP:Simplified ruleset for an overview of how policies work.
SamuelRiv (
talk) 21:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)reply