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G'day guys,

I've protected this page against further editing for the meantime. I don't know who is right in your budding edit war, and I cherish that ignorance. Revert wars are not constructive. Please apply at Wikipedia:Protected page when you feel you can handle this with more maturity than has currently been shown. Thanks, fuddlemark ( fuddle me!) 15:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

"American terrorism" is documented and cited as a widely used term. There was no consensus to delete, rename, or redirect that article. It is against Wikipedia policy to make up neologisms like Terrorism by United States of America. It is also against Wikipedia policy to delete, rename, and redirect articles without consensus. I will not give my "cooperation" to people who are violating Wikipedia policy. -- Peter McConaughey 15:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Actually, "Terrorism by the United States of America" is a descriptive sentence. "American terrorism" is a neologism, and is inaccurate. It's not used to refer to the American continent, it's used to refer to the United States of America. See use of the word American. -- Chaosfeary 15:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Politically correct or not, the term "American terrorism" is widely used to mean terrorism perpetrated by Americans. The "descriptive sentence" that you made up is not used by anyone to mean anything except by you to misdirect the fact that you broke Wikipedia rules by essentially deleting an article without consensus. -- Peter McConaughey 15:43, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
NO ARTICLE HAS BEEN DELETED - See Terrorism by United States of America. -- Chaosfeary 15:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Your Talk:Terrorism by United States of America is a joke. You made up that neologism and I will not support it. You renamed "American Terrorism" to your made-up neologism or "descriptive sentence" and then changed the definition, essentially deleting the original article. You can claim that you didn't delete it, but the effect is the same. Do you think people are so dense that they can't see what you're doing? People like you who ignore consensus, force their will on others, and justify their actions through misdirection, are the reason that Wikipedia fails to live up to its potential. -- Peter McConaughey 16:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Title dispute

I came here from the RfC. To me, 'American terrorism' says "terrorist acts committed by citizens of the United States", while 'Terrorism by the United States of America' says "terrorist acts committed by, sponsored by, or endorsed by the government". Which is this supposed to be about? -- Carnildo 21:29, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

I think that's the question. I see two or three possibilities: US state-sponsored terrorism; Domestic terrorism in the US; and maybe American terrorism as a political term. My thought is that American terrorism might take the reader to a disambiguation page where they could choose. Currently there are articles at Domestic terrorism in the United States and Terrorism by United States of America. American terrorism redirects to the second. Tom Harrison (talk) 22:23, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Bad Faith

Very bad faith move to rename the article!

Here is how this page (American terrorism) should look like:


For the term, see American terrorism (term)

For terrorism in USA, see Domestic terrorism in the United States

For terrorism by USA, see Terrorism by United States of America



-- Striver 19:21, 1 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Awesome

Good disambiguation page. JG of Borg 17:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC) reply


I am aboslutely amazed at the work that has been done here- with the disambig and the related articles. I came on board with this page when it was up for deletion, and someone had listed the American Colonists inadvertantly infecting Native Americans with European illnesses as American Terrorism.

Yeah, it was a mess.

Thanks to all who have participated. Sethie 00:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Move

Please keep the move discussion centralized at American terrorism (term). savidan (talk) (e@) 01:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Done, as there was no opposition... — Nightst a llion (?) 07:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC) reply
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Page protection

G'day guys,

I've protected this page against further editing for the meantime. I don't know who is right in your budding edit war, and I cherish that ignorance. Revert wars are not constructive. Please apply at Wikipedia:Protected page when you feel you can handle this with more maturity than has currently been shown. Thanks, fuddlemark ( fuddle me!) 15:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

"American terrorism" is documented and cited as a widely used term. There was no consensus to delete, rename, or redirect that article. It is against Wikipedia policy to make up neologisms like Terrorism by United States of America. It is also against Wikipedia policy to delete, rename, and redirect articles without consensus. I will not give my "cooperation" to people who are violating Wikipedia policy. -- Peter McConaughey 15:20, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Actually, "Terrorism by the United States of America" is a descriptive sentence. "American terrorism" is a neologism, and is inaccurate. It's not used to refer to the American continent, it's used to refer to the United States of America. See use of the word American. -- Chaosfeary 15:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Politically correct or not, the term "American terrorism" is widely used to mean terrorism perpetrated by Americans. The "descriptive sentence" that you made up is not used by anyone to mean anything except by you to misdirect the fact that you broke Wikipedia rules by essentially deleting an article without consensus. -- Peter McConaughey 15:43, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
NO ARTICLE HAS BEEN DELETED - See Terrorism by United States of America. -- Chaosfeary 15:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply
Your Talk:Terrorism by United States of America is a joke. You made up that neologism and I will not support it. You renamed "American Terrorism" to your made-up neologism or "descriptive sentence" and then changed the definition, essentially deleting the original article. You can claim that you didn't delete it, but the effect is the same. Do you think people are so dense that they can't see what you're doing? People like you who ignore consensus, force their will on others, and justify their actions through misdirection, are the reason that Wikipedia fails to live up to its potential. -- Peter McConaughey 16:14, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Title dispute

I came here from the RfC. To me, 'American terrorism' says "terrorist acts committed by citizens of the United States", while 'Terrorism by the United States of America' says "terrorist acts committed by, sponsored by, or endorsed by the government". Which is this supposed to be about? -- Carnildo 21:29, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

I think that's the question. I see two or three possibilities: US state-sponsored terrorism; Domestic terrorism in the US; and maybe American terrorism as a political term. My thought is that American terrorism might take the reader to a disambiguation page where they could choose. Currently there are articles at Domestic terrorism in the United States and Terrorism by United States of America. American terrorism redirects to the second. Tom Harrison (talk) 22:23, 30 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Bad Faith

Very bad faith move to rename the article!

Here is how this page (American terrorism) should look like:


For the term, see American terrorism (term)

For terrorism in USA, see Domestic terrorism in the United States

For terrorism by USA, see Terrorism by United States of America



-- Striver 19:21, 1 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Awesome

Good disambiguation page. JG of Borg 17:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC) reply


I am aboslutely amazed at the work that has been done here- with the disambig and the related articles. I came on board with this page when it was up for deletion, and someone had listed the American Colonists inadvertantly infecting Native Americans with European illnesses as American Terrorism.

Yeah, it was a mess.

Thanks to all who have participated. Sethie 00:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC) reply

Move

Please keep the move discussion centralized at American terrorism (term). savidan (talk) (e@) 01:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC) reply

Done, as there was no opposition... — Nightst a llion (?) 07:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC) reply

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