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Just wondering why it's called Accidents Grotesque? -- 24.249.108.133 19:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
It is Akzidenz, not Accidents, though Accidenz is found in earlier versions. It means a jobbing" sans-serif. Job printing includes the less glamorous stuff: forms, tickets, cards. THre is not a direct exact german to English translation. This is a nice link if you are still curious: http://typophile.com/node/17643 CApitol3 19:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
What is this "Akzidenz Grotesk" movie that the ticket shown is for? I can find no info on the web. Presumably it isn't just the youtube short, is it? Jonathan Badger
Chris Marshall states definitely that Transport is a "modification" of this font - [1] . Is he a sufficiently reliable source for us to put this in the article? Tevildo 23:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it is one line to long, I know it is picky but Helvetica has its own page. We should delete "Miedinger sought to refine the typeface making it more even and unified". It's irrelevant.
Just a thought. Day Barnes ( talk) 03:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Around the turn of the millennium the corporate typeface of the investment bank Credit Suisse First Boston was Akzidenz-Grotesk. JDAWiseman ( talk) 10:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
"The Pro family offers extended language support for Central European, Baltic and Turkish as well as Welsh, archaic Danish and Esperanto". I am a Dane and I am not sure what archaic Danish is. Of course Dansih has evovlved a lot through the last 1000 years, but we have not deleted some strange letters in that time. Danish 500 years ago was written with the same letters as today, except that a few has been added, most lately Å in 1948. About 150 years ago we had both Ø and Ö but both letters are accessible in normal western European code pages. And it is probably not runes that are meant by Archaic Danish? I assume Polish language has had trouble with a certain character, l with a slash, but I am surprised that Esperanto should suffer this? Ditlev Petersen ( talk) 19:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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Please please please, consider these two excellent articles by Indra Kupferschmid. I'm not an expert and will try to edit the main article. Part 1 http://kupferschrift.de/cms/2012/04/ag/ Part 2 http://kupferschrift.de/cms/2017/10/ag-2/ -- 216.221.58.252 ( talk) 01:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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Akzidenz indicates its intended use ... for sans-serif typefaces at the time.This is quite an important detail, especially as the name might look strange to many readers. This should not be mentioned just in the lead.
As is normal in typefaces cut during the metal type periodWhen exactly was this period?
Berthold literatureBerthold is not mentioned since the lead. It should be mentioned by the full name on first mention in the main text.
Recent research by Eckehart Schumacher-Gebler, Indra Kupferschmid and Dan ReynoldsWho are these people? Try adding their professions (Same for
Reynolds and Florian Hardwig,
Seeman's Handbuch der Schriftarten)
Professor Indra Kupferschmid, who has researched the early use of sans-serifs in GermanyPer the above point this should actually go into the first mention. Actually take the full name on first mention and introduce the person.. take just the last name in later mentions.
shadowed sans-serif ('Schattierte Grotesk')Template:lang-de could be of good use here and wherever we have German terms.
"Accidenz-Gothisch" blackletterDuplicate link. Also 'Bauer foundry of Frankfurt'
confusion may have occurred with fonts held by Berthold that the Theinhardt foundry licensedNot a problem but is a long list of refs that necessary here? Ref. 19 is actually repeated
Characteristics of this typeface areAre all the bullets after this sourced properly? Maybe add citations right after this line
the 't' of the Schmalhalbfett weight'Schmalhalbfett' is in lower case on first mention
Berthold Schriftprobe 473What exactly is this?
Other weights were added...ultra-bold 'Akzidenz-Grotesk Super'.Needs an inline citation
That's all from me. A comprehensive, well-written article :) Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 13:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Blythwood: Hi, no activity here since a week.. any update? Cheers, Sainsf ( knock knock · am I there?) 06:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
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Just wondering why it's called Accidents Grotesque? -- 24.249.108.133 19:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
It is Akzidenz, not Accidents, though Accidenz is found in earlier versions. It means a jobbing" sans-serif. Job printing includes the less glamorous stuff: forms, tickets, cards. THre is not a direct exact german to English translation. This is a nice link if you are still curious: http://typophile.com/node/17643 CApitol3 19:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
What is this "Akzidenz Grotesk" movie that the ticket shown is for? I can find no info on the web. Presumably it isn't just the youtube short, is it? Jonathan Badger
Chris Marshall states definitely that Transport is a "modification" of this font - [1] . Is he a sufficiently reliable source for us to put this in the article? Tevildo 23:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it is one line to long, I know it is picky but Helvetica has its own page. We should delete "Miedinger sought to refine the typeface making it more even and unified". It's irrelevant.
Just a thought. Day Barnes ( talk) 03:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Around the turn of the millennium the corporate typeface of the investment bank Credit Suisse First Boston was Akzidenz-Grotesk. JDAWiseman ( talk) 10:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
"The Pro family offers extended language support for Central European, Baltic and Turkish as well as Welsh, archaic Danish and Esperanto". I am a Dane and I am not sure what archaic Danish is. Of course Dansih has evovlved a lot through the last 1000 years, but we have not deleted some strange letters in that time. Danish 500 years ago was written with the same letters as today, except that a few has been added, most lately Å in 1948. About 150 years ago we had both Ø and Ö but both letters are accessible in normal western European code pages. And it is probably not runes that are meant by Archaic Danish? I assume Polish language has had trouble with a certain character, l with a slash, but I am surprised that Esperanto should suffer this? Ditlev Petersen ( talk) 19:21, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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Please please please, consider these two excellent articles by Indra Kupferschmid. I'm not an expert and will try to edit the main article. Part 1 http://kupferschrift.de/cms/2012/04/ag/ Part 2 http://kupferschrift.de/cms/2017/10/ag-2/ -- 216.221.58.252 ( talk) 01:12, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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I find this interesting and well-written at first glance. Will post my comments soon. Cheers, Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 20:32, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Akzidenz indicates its intended use ... for sans-serif typefaces at the time.This is quite an important detail, especially as the name might look strange to many readers. This should not be mentioned just in the lead.
As is normal in typefaces cut during the metal type periodWhen exactly was this period?
Berthold literatureBerthold is not mentioned since the lead. It should be mentioned by the full name on first mention in the main text.
Recent research by Eckehart Schumacher-Gebler, Indra Kupferschmid and Dan ReynoldsWho are these people? Try adding their professions (Same for
Reynolds and Florian Hardwig,
Seeman's Handbuch der Schriftarten)
Professor Indra Kupferschmid, who has researched the early use of sans-serifs in GermanyPer the above point this should actually go into the first mention. Actually take the full name on first mention and introduce the person.. take just the last name in later mentions.
shadowed sans-serif ('Schattierte Grotesk')Template:lang-de could be of good use here and wherever we have German terms.
"Accidenz-Gothisch" blackletterDuplicate link. Also 'Bauer foundry of Frankfurt'
confusion may have occurred with fonts held by Berthold that the Theinhardt foundry licensedNot a problem but is a long list of refs that necessary here? Ref. 19 is actually repeated
Characteristics of this typeface areAre all the bullets after this sourced properly? Maybe add citations right after this line
the 't' of the Schmalhalbfett weight'Schmalhalbfett' is in lower case on first mention
Berthold Schriftprobe 473What exactly is this?
Other weights were added...ultra-bold 'Akzidenz-Grotesk Super'.Needs an inline citation
That's all from me. A comprehensive, well-written article :) Sainsf ( talk · contribs) 13:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Blythwood: Hi, no activity here since a week.. any update? Cheers, Sainsf ( knock knock · am I there?) 06:57, 29 April 2020 (UTC)