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neutral point of view. That means that we rely on the information available in reliable, independent, secondary sources, which identify Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam. The Ahmadiyya community's beliefs, like Islam, are based on the
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Five Pillars of Islam. Like all Muslims, Ahmadis accept the
Quran as their holy text, face the
Kaaba during prayer, follow the
sunnah, and accept the authority of the
ahadith. Two arguments against the identification of Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam are brought up repeatedly. One is that, according to some Muslims, Ahmadiyya has critical differences that put it outside of Islam. This is not relevant here; we stick with what reliable, secondary sources say just as we do when discussing the Nation of Islam, Messianic Jews, Won Buddhism, or any other controversial religion, and we avoid censorship. The second is that the government of Pakistan has declared that Ahmadis are not Muslims. That is not relevant here. The government of Pakistan does not influence Wikipedia policy. Both of these concerns are discussed in the article. Q2: Why was my request or comment removed?
A2: Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to censor the page by removing the terms Muslim or Islam, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including
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These questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Ahmadiyya.
Wikipedia adheres to a neutral point of view. That means that we rely on the information available in reliable, independent, secondary sources, which identify Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam. The Ahmadiyya community's beliefs, like Islam, are based on the Six articles of Islamic Faith and the Five Pillars of Islam. Like all Muslims, Ahmadis accept the Quran as their holy text, face the Kaaba during prayer, follow the sunnah, and accept the authority of the ahadith.
Two arguments against the identification of Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam are brought up repeatedly. One is that, according to some Muslims, Ahmadiyya has critical differences that put it outside of Islam. This is not relevant here; we stick with what reliable, secondary sources say just as we do when discussing the Nation of Islam, Messianic Jews, Won Buddhism, or any other controversial religion, and we avoid censorship. The second is that the government of Pakistan has declared that Ahmadis are not Muslims. That is not relevant here. The government of Pakistan does not influence Wikipedia policy. Both of these concerns are discussed in the article.
Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to censor the page by removing the terms Muslim or Islam, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including WP:Reliable sources, will be deleted without discussion. Any further requests to insert words such as Kafir or Qadiyani, or to rename the article to Qadianism, will also be deleted without discussion.
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As ahmadiya community called themselves muslim to hijack islam, while its actually not islam, thats is why they cant be called "Muslim". Hafiz usama qureshi ( talk) 11:27, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Remove all Islam and Muslim the Ahmadiyya community are not Muslim according to Pakistan government 71.241.206.50 ( talk) 11:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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Shouldn't we put a 1-question FAQ on the talk page like this?:
I mean, this is commonly restated. ― Ö S M A N ( talk · contribs) 10:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
I created a draft FAQ at Talk:Ahmadiyya/FAQ. If that seems reasonable, I can add it to this page. PepperBeast (talk) 15:53, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Anachronist; @ Pepperbeast: I think we should also add something in the FAQ regarding moving the article to "Qadianism", since that stuff was actively discussed (see the archives). ― Ö S M A N ( talk · contribs) 13:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please add at the end of third paragraph in the introduction. It is noted that Ahmadiyya sect is not considered Muslim according to the constitution of Pakistan, and hundreds of court decisions and parliament resolutions. 97% of Muslims in Pakistan feel hurt when Ahmadiyya are called Muslims. Nabeelan ( talk) 03:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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Abdullahshaf ( talk) 18:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Please make edit that Ahmadia is not a part of Islam. They are absolutly different from Islam. So make sure to change it.
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Frequently asked questions These questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Ahmadiyya. To view an explanation of the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Q1: Why does this page call the Ahmadiyya community Muslims?
A1: Wikipedia adheres to a
neutral point of view. That means that we rely on the information available in reliable, independent, secondary sources, which identify Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam. The Ahmadiyya community's beliefs, like Islam, are based on the
Six articles of Islamic Faith and the
Five Pillars of Islam. Like all Muslims, Ahmadis accept the
Quran as their holy text, face the
Kaaba during prayer, follow the
sunnah, and accept the authority of the
ahadith. Two arguments against the identification of Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam are brought up repeatedly. One is that, according to some Muslims, Ahmadiyya has critical differences that put it outside of Islam. This is not relevant here; we stick with what reliable, secondary sources say just as we do when discussing the Nation of Islam, Messianic Jews, Won Buddhism, or any other controversial religion, and we avoid censorship. The second is that the government of Pakistan has declared that Ahmadis are not Muslims. That is not relevant here. The government of Pakistan does not influence Wikipedia policy. Both of these concerns are discussed in the article. Q2: Why was my request or comment removed?
A2: Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to censor the page by removing the terms Muslim or Islam, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including
WP:Reliable sources, will be deleted without discussion. Any further requests to insert words such as Kafir or Qadiani, or to rename the article to Qadianism, will also be deleted without discussion. |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on March 23, 2015, March 23, 2017, and March 23, 2020. |
Discussions on this page often lead to previous arguments being restated, especially about use of the terms Qadiani and Kafir and related ideas of whether Ahmadiyya are considered Muslims. Please read recent comments, look in the archives, and review the FAQ before commenting on that topic. |
This section is pinned and will not be automatically archived. |
These questions arise frequently on the talk page concerning Ahmadiyya.
Wikipedia adheres to a neutral point of view. That means that we rely on the information available in reliable, independent, secondary sources, which identify Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam. The Ahmadiyya community's beliefs, like Islam, are based on the Six articles of Islamic Faith and the Five Pillars of Islam. Like all Muslims, Ahmadis accept the Quran as their holy text, face the Kaaba during prayer, follow the sunnah, and accept the authority of the ahadith.
Two arguments against the identification of Ahmadiyya as a branch of Islam are brought up repeatedly. One is that, according to some Muslims, Ahmadiyya has critical differences that put it outside of Islam. This is not relevant here; we stick with what reliable, secondary sources say just as we do when discussing the Nation of Islam, Messianic Jews, Won Buddhism, or any other controversial religion, and we avoid censorship. The second is that the government of Pakistan has declared that Ahmadis are not Muslims. That is not relevant here. The government of Pakistan does not influence Wikipedia policy. Both of these concerns are discussed in the article.
Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to censor the page by removing the terms Muslim or Islam, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including WP:Reliable sources, will be deleted without discussion. Any further requests to insert words such as Kafir or Qadiyani, or to rename the article to Qadianism, will also be deleted without discussion.
This section is permanently on this talk page and does not get archived. It is for mobile-device users for whom the the normal talk page header and FAQ are not shown.
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As ahmadiya community called themselves muslim to hijack islam, while its actually not islam, thats is why they cant be called "Muslim". Hafiz usama qureshi ( talk) 11:27, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
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Remove all Islam and Muslim the Ahmadiyya community are not Muslim according to Pakistan government 71.241.206.50 ( talk) 11:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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Shouldn't we put a 1-question FAQ on the talk page like this?:
I mean, this is commonly restated. ― Ö S M A N ( talk · contribs) 10:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
I created a draft FAQ at Talk:Ahmadiyya/FAQ. If that seems reasonable, I can add it to this page. PepperBeast (talk) 15:53, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
@ Anachronist; @ Pepperbeast: I think we should also add something in the FAQ regarding moving the article to "Qadianism", since that stuff was actively discussed (see the archives). ― Ö S M A N ( talk · contribs) 13:57, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please add at the end of third paragraph in the introduction. It is noted that Ahmadiyya sect is not considered Muslim according to the constitution of Pakistan, and hundreds of court decisions and parliament resolutions. 97% of Muslims in Pakistan feel hurt when Ahmadiyya are called Muslims. Nabeelan ( talk) 03:31, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
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Abdullahshaf ( talk) 18:30, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Please make edit that Ahmadia is not a part of Islam. They are absolutly different from Islam. So make sure to change it.