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Why is this section's neutrality being disputed? Jarble ( talk) 19:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
The lead paragraph currently says the Students for Fair Admissions ruling "does not explicitly apply to U.S. military academies..." I think it would be more precise to say: "the Court explicitly exempted the U.S. military academies and their use of race-based affirmative action from its ruling," which is more like how the WP article on the Students for Fair Admissions case puts it. Or: "the ruling explicitly left the door open for service academies to continue to use race-conscious admissions programs," which is how the Scotusblog source cited in that article puts it.
The way it's written now makes it seem like the court just didn't say explicitly that the ruling does apply to the military academies, but actually the Court explicitly suggested that ruling may not apply to the military academies. The distinction seems important, but as a relatively new editor on WP, and recognizing this is a controversial topic, I hesitate to change it myself. Jameson Nightowl ( talk) 05:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
The British term for 'affirmative action' is 'positive discrimination', not 'positive action'. There's a difference between these terms! Positive action is about helping marginalised groups, but one will not lower standards for them. An example of helping them would be including them in advertisements, hiring them if they meet the conditions, etc. מושא עקיף ( talk) 02:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 March 2022 and 30 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Yajzel V ( article contribs).
See [1] Doug Weller talk 13:25, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 September 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): RyanDing26 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by !777francis777! ( talk) 18:14, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Why is this section's neutrality being disputed? Jarble ( talk) 19:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
The lead paragraph currently says the Students for Fair Admissions ruling "does not explicitly apply to U.S. military academies..." I think it would be more precise to say: "the Court explicitly exempted the U.S. military academies and their use of race-based affirmative action from its ruling," which is more like how the WP article on the Students for Fair Admissions case puts it. Or: "the ruling explicitly left the door open for service academies to continue to use race-conscious admissions programs," which is how the Scotusblog source cited in that article puts it.
The way it's written now makes it seem like the court just didn't say explicitly that the ruling does apply to the military academies, but actually the Court explicitly suggested that ruling may not apply to the military academies. The distinction seems important, but as a relatively new editor on WP, and recognizing this is a controversial topic, I hesitate to change it myself. Jameson Nightowl ( talk) 05:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
The British term for 'affirmative action' is 'positive discrimination', not 'positive action'. There's a difference between these terms! Positive action is about helping marginalised groups, but one will not lower standards for them. An example of helping them would be including them in advertisements, hiring them if they meet the conditions, etc. מושא עקיף ( talk) 02:10, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 January 2024 and 9 May 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Esycgndur64sdikyv ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Esycgndur64sdikyv ( talk) 17:50, 24 April 2024 (UTC)