This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Acute radiation syndrome article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find medical sources: Source guidelines · PubMed · Cochrane · DOAJ · Gale · OpenMD · ScienceDirect · Springer · Trip · Wiley · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 90 days |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Ideal sources for Wikipedia's health content are defined in the guideline
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically
review articles. Here are links to possibly useful sources of information about Acute radiation syndrome.
|
Index
|
||
This page has archives. Sections older than 90 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present. |
This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. |
Reporting errors |
In the list description of symptom types, it reads,
"3. Neurovascular. This syndrome typically occurs at absorbed doses greater than 30 grays (3,000 rad), though it may occur at 10 grays (1,000 rad).[3] It presents with neurological symptoms like dizziness, headache, or decreased level of consciousness, occurring within minutes to a few hours, and with an absence of vomiting; it is invariably fatal.[3]"
It is followed by a table reporting the incidence of nausea at >30 Gy as 100%. The table also describes mild to moderate headache and short term cognitive impairment as results of a 2-6 Gy dose, which is potentially survivable.
So altogether the actual facts seem to be clear as mud. Anyone got a good cite to clear up this contradiction? A. J. Luxton ( talk) 09:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
@ A J Luxton: 1) The higher dosages includes the symptoms of lesser dosages. 2) The effects on the human body may deviate from case to case. 3) Radiation can be directed and even limited to certain body parts. 4) One way to view the data is that there has not been that much information gathered on humans suffering from those dosages, only a handful of people have experienced that much radiation throughout the whole history of mankind, and pieces of evidence taken from different sources may deviate from each others, as they are likely case studies. You could go to the sources and see what they say exactly. 30Gy is what one would receive if being next to the fuel rods of a nuclear reactor for like 2-5 minutes while it is going through a meltdown, being half a kilometer away from a nuclear fission bomb when it goes off, et.c. · · · Omnissiahs hierophant ( talk) 13:34, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
"Walking ghost" redirects here, but the term is not used or explained in the article. Could someone knowledgeable please add something? Tad Lincoln ( talk) 03:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
... and which I possibly had illegally in our house (PLC is illegal to use where more than a single person is living in Germany). ... I had ALL of the shown symptoms. This PLC and also the smart meters need prohibitions as their dirty electricity is not and never properly shieldable. We protest for a reason as adjacent to EHS people, even people with disabilities in general do not stand or like the stricter guidelines of an illegal Wifi or even RF weaponry as both is meant to either far too quickly (strictly illegal Wifis) or even directly (for example ELF weapons such as HAARP, even this new 5G) outright KILL a person alongside with it. This is illegal activity to do with ones Wifi system and such a system will definitely need prohibitions as the killing of a person with a disability is strictly RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. -- 2001:16B8:5786:5B00:21B2:7DF0:5099:84E8 ( talk) 09:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
In the Notable cases section, the table gives Ouchi's dose in sieverts, even though the other doses are given in grays, and the preceding text states "as ARS is measured by a whole-body absorbed dose, the exposure column only includes units of gray (Gy)." It's being sorted assuming the a 1:1 ratio of sieverts to grays, which is possible but not certain. Exobiotic 💬 ✒️ 17:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Acute radiation syndrome article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find medical sources: Source guidelines · PubMed · Cochrane · DOAJ · Gale · OpenMD · ScienceDirect · Springer · Trip · Wiley · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 90 days |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Ideal sources for Wikipedia's health content are defined in the guideline
Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and are typically
review articles. Here are links to possibly useful sources of information about Acute radiation syndrome.
|
Index
|
||
This page has archives. Sections older than 90 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present. |
This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.
Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. |
Reporting errors |
In the list description of symptom types, it reads,
"3. Neurovascular. This syndrome typically occurs at absorbed doses greater than 30 grays (3,000 rad), though it may occur at 10 grays (1,000 rad).[3] It presents with neurological symptoms like dizziness, headache, or decreased level of consciousness, occurring within minutes to a few hours, and with an absence of vomiting; it is invariably fatal.[3]"
It is followed by a table reporting the incidence of nausea at >30 Gy as 100%. The table also describes mild to moderate headache and short term cognitive impairment as results of a 2-6 Gy dose, which is potentially survivable.
So altogether the actual facts seem to be clear as mud. Anyone got a good cite to clear up this contradiction? A. J. Luxton ( talk) 09:04, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
@ A J Luxton: 1) The higher dosages includes the symptoms of lesser dosages. 2) The effects on the human body may deviate from case to case. 3) Radiation can be directed and even limited to certain body parts. 4) One way to view the data is that there has not been that much information gathered on humans suffering from those dosages, only a handful of people have experienced that much radiation throughout the whole history of mankind, and pieces of evidence taken from different sources may deviate from each others, as they are likely case studies. You could go to the sources and see what they say exactly. 30Gy is what one would receive if being next to the fuel rods of a nuclear reactor for like 2-5 minutes while it is going through a meltdown, being half a kilometer away from a nuclear fission bomb when it goes off, et.c. · · · Omnissiahs hierophant ( talk) 13:34, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
"Walking ghost" redirects here, but the term is not used or explained in the article. Could someone knowledgeable please add something? Tad Lincoln ( talk) 03:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
... and which I possibly had illegally in our house (PLC is illegal to use where more than a single person is living in Germany). ... I had ALL of the shown symptoms. This PLC and also the smart meters need prohibitions as their dirty electricity is not and never properly shieldable. We protest for a reason as adjacent to EHS people, even people with disabilities in general do not stand or like the stricter guidelines of an illegal Wifi or even RF weaponry as both is meant to either far too quickly (strictly illegal Wifis) or even directly (for example ELF weapons such as HAARP, even this new 5G) outright KILL a person alongside with it. This is illegal activity to do with ones Wifi system and such a system will definitely need prohibitions as the killing of a person with a disability is strictly RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. -- 2001:16B8:5786:5B00:21B2:7DF0:5099:84E8 ( talk) 09:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
In the Notable cases section, the table gives Ouchi's dose in sieverts, even though the other doses are given in grays, and the preceding text states "as ARS is measured by a whole-body absorbed dose, the exposure column only includes units of gray (Gy)." It's being sorted assuming the a 1:1 ratio of sieverts to grays, which is possible but not certain. Exobiotic 💬 ✒️ 17:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)