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Was this co-written with Michael Herskowitz or with Karen Hughes? 217.42.13.36 ( talk) 23:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
We can all speculate who did what, but the credited author of this book, as far as I can see, is George W. Bush. I followed the WP ISBN 0688174418 link, and then checked Google books and all the listed catalogs from there, and they all listed the author as "George W. Bush", period.
(With one exception: Internet Book Database lists the author as Karen Hughes!)
I did find one source that said the actual story was: Bush hired Herskowitz to write it, wasn't happy with the results, and then had Karen Hughes rewrite it to fit his vision (from whence how the Internet Book Database credits it, perhaps...). But that's a lot different from "credited ghostwriter", unless someone has a source confirming that in contradiction to the cover and major catalogs.
The only place I see where Herskowitz is mentioned at all as an author is on the UK Amazon site, which I don't think is a canonical source.
...oh, wait, speaking of canonical sources, how about the publisher? Turns out the Morrow credit is to Bush and Hughes. But the Hughes credit might be for her foreword?-- NapoliRoma ( talk) 23:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
I felt this was worth bringing up somewhere other than the edit log:
A few years ago I added a sourced story to this article. The source was, not to put too fine a point on it, wrong.
The claim in the source was that the Koerner painting from which the title of this book was derived was originally used as an illustration for a story called "The Slipper Tongue", published in the Saturday Evening Post in 1916, captioned "Had His Start Been Fifteen Minutes Longer He Would Not Have Been Caught."
A look at that issue of the magazine shows that the picture with that caption was indeed by Koerner, and had some casual similarities (there was a guy, and there were horses :-) but was not at all the same painting.-- NapoliRoma ( talk) 16:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
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Was this co-written with Michael Herskowitz or with Karen Hughes? 217.42.13.36 ( talk) 23:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
We can all speculate who did what, but the credited author of this book, as far as I can see, is George W. Bush. I followed the WP ISBN 0688174418 link, and then checked Google books and all the listed catalogs from there, and they all listed the author as "George W. Bush", period.
(With one exception: Internet Book Database lists the author as Karen Hughes!)
I did find one source that said the actual story was: Bush hired Herskowitz to write it, wasn't happy with the results, and then had Karen Hughes rewrite it to fit his vision (from whence how the Internet Book Database credits it, perhaps...). But that's a lot different from "credited ghostwriter", unless someone has a source confirming that in contradiction to the cover and major catalogs.
The only place I see where Herskowitz is mentioned at all as an author is on the UK Amazon site, which I don't think is a canonical source.
...oh, wait, speaking of canonical sources, how about the publisher? Turns out the Morrow credit is to Bush and Hughes. But the Hughes credit might be for her foreword?-- NapoliRoma ( talk) 23:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
I felt this was worth bringing up somewhere other than the edit log:
A few years ago I added a sourced story to this article. The source was, not to put too fine a point on it, wrong.
The claim in the source was that the Koerner painting from which the title of this book was derived was originally used as an illustration for a story called "The Slipper Tongue", published in the Saturday Evening Post in 1916, captioned "Had His Start Been Fifteen Minutes Longer He Would Not Have Been Caught."
A look at that issue of the magazine shows that the picture with that caption was indeed by Koerner, and had some casual similarities (there was a guy, and there were horses :-) but was not at all the same painting.-- NapoliRoma ( talk) 16:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)