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A fact from 3:16 game appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 April 2024 ( check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that in the 3:16 game, Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards with 31.6 yards per completion, the ratings for the game were 31.6, and the opposing team's time of possession was 31 minutes 6 seconds? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The 3:16 game.

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton  talk 01:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC) reply

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Tebow in the 3:16 game

• ... that in the 3:16 game (pictured) Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards with 31.6 yards per completion, the ratings for the game were 31.6 and the opposing team's time of possession was 31:06? Source: during the game you threw for 316 yards. Your yards per rush were 3.16. Your yards per completion were 31.6. The ratings for the game were 31.6 and the time of possession was 31.6.
  • ALT1: ... that as a result of an NFL game (pictured) 94 million people looked up meaning of 3:16 on Google? Source: During the 2009 college football national championship, University of Florida quarterback Tim Tebow painted “John 3:16? under his eyes. As a result, some 94 million people Googled the verse.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2020–2022 catalytic converter theft ring

Moved to mainspace by Lightburst ( talk). Self-nominated at 19:59, 3 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The 3:16 game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page. reply

• I'll review this. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 03:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• Comment The 3.16 yards per rush stat looks to be in error. Tebow ran 10 times for 50 yards. [1] Harper J. Cole ( talk) 16:14, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I removed that bit from the hook @ Harper J. Cole: It was from the hook source Harry Connick who must have got it wrong based on your information and this ESPN source. I think the rest is all cited and the bit about the rushing yards is quoted. I will add a note of correction after Connick's quote. Thanks! Lightburst ( talk) 16:29, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Mostly looks good, but a few things that should be worked on: (1) the first hook states that his team's time of possession was 31.6 – however, it was the Steelers who had that possession and it was 31:06 (31.6 isn't how time of possession is written); (2) the second hook states that it was as a result of an NFL game, but the source says that it was because of the college football championship; and (3) I've heard of this game before for being the shortest overtime win in NFL history – that is probably relevant and should be added. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 21:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

BeanieFan11 Thanks for the review. That is right! I corrected alt0 and it was already correct in the article. I also added the shortest overtime to the article and I will cross off ALT1 because this article is not about the college game. Lightburst ( talk) 23:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I think this is good now. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 00:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The first green tick was a confusion as the message is 'good to go' but then notes that there are still issues, so has been removed. The second approval has been commented out temporarily in place of . Cheers, ——Serial Number 54129 13:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The AfD closed as keep. Lightburst ( talk) 01:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

This review is transcluded from Talk:3:16 game/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Lightburst ( talk · contribs)

Reviewer: TonyTheTiger ( talk · contribs) 23:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TonyTheTiger: Thank you for the review! I have no trouble working through the review to satisfy your concerns. I have opted to wait because the article was sent to AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3:16 game today. Lightburst ( talk) 18:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

I believe that by responding to this review, you will make the article look and feel more encyclopedic, thus improving the likelihood of AFD survival. I would put some work into the article. They are even helping dig up sources for you. By adding a wider variety of WP:RS you also improve its chances of survival. I have had people withdraw opposition in AFDs merely out of response to article improvement. E.g. see Peter Patton (basketball)'s recent AFD.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Reviewing- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:01, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply

•  Done For starters, if the game is notable, it should have the {{ Infobox American football game}} infobox. Look at Super Bowl LVIII, Heidi Game, Music City Miracle to see what this looks like. There is a lot to fill in there if you want this to be WP:GA.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:11, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done still a lot of fields need to be completed here. Ratings and HoFers (at least 3) for sure. Probably more. Take a closer look at the template or some of its more elaborate uses. HoFers does not just include players. See Super Bowl XXX.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:04, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • According to the 2011 Steelers article there are more HoFers Noll and Rooney at least. I did not click through the rest of the blue links because I did not recognize their names. I did not look at the Broncos article.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• Further. Please look down the Super Bowl XXX. See the Box score section and the various tables below that.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Thanks. Slowly adding these things. Just found another weird coincidence. Tebow played the 2009 BCS National Championship Game on the 8th, and this playoff game 3 years later on the 8th. Making it 3 years and 8+8. But I do not think it fits as well as the obvious stats and maybe seems like a reach, just like the Steelers last three regular season games margin of loss and victory is 48 pts - so 3 games with an average of 16. Maybe it starts to feel like OR? Lightburst ( talk) 19:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

margin of victory (Wiktionary) is a real stat not entirely OR. Total calendar dates (8+8) not a real stat, IMO. I would honestly include both team MOVs. I guess the 2nd one is your call, but I'd present it and leave it to the reader to decide if it is a real coincidence.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

The template you need is {{ Americanfootballbox}}, also the stats tables at the bottom like Super Bowl XXX are pretty important for this to be examplary.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Thoughts on {{ Americanfootballbox}}?-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:29, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TonyTheTiger: I have been holding back a bit to see the outcome of the AfD. At the same time copyediting and adding relevant details about why this particular game is notable. It looks like it may be kept. I also may not be grasping what information is needed for the box. I wonder if you might consider editing it to your preference? Lightburst ( talk) 14:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Well don't wait too long, I am about to be topic banned form WP:GAN, I don't know if it will be for both nominations and reviews. However, you can see clearly what you need at Super_Bowl_XXX#Box_score. You need that template in your article. Super Bowl LVIII also uses the full form, Heidi Game uses an abbreviated form.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:55, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

@ TonyTheTiger: AfD concluded as keep and I added two of the game summary boxes that you recommended. Let me know what you think. Lightburst ( talk) 01:12, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

• •  Done Some info is in 2011–12 NFL playoffs, which should be linked in the WP:LEAD.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:17, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done The opening paragraph should not end with the number three hundred sixteen. It should end with "3–1–6, in that order".- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:11, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done In addition the opening paragraph should state that in addition, there was an anniversary and subsequent ratings numbers that were coincident, plus the 7th coincidence I mention below.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:26, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done Second there should be a bulleted list of 3–1–6 coincidences (3rd anniversary, passing yards, yards/completion, yards/rush, time of possession, ratings) that the text wraps around.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:11, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  •  Done why not "in that order"? Also after 31:06 what about (31 minutes, 6 seconds as a way to present it without the intervening 0). Also, split total yards and yard/completion into separate lines.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• You will want reliable sources. For most major league sports I like to see the official Associated Press story like as a source. here it is.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:21, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Have you incorporated all the WP:RS suggested at the WP:AFD?- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:33, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  @ TonyTheTiger: I did go through and use several that were relevant. Beanie had some very good ones. I also took suggestions about the items that made the game notable beyond the 3:16, like first playoff game under the new 2010 overtime rule. Lightburst ( talk) 14:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC) reply

•  Done Did no one notice that they had lost the three previous games by an average of 16 points. That is a 7th coincidence, IMO.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:32, 19 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done That Playoff article also noted that the only interception of the game was thrown on 3rd and 16. That makes 8 coincidences.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• The average margin of victory in Pittsburg's 3 previous games was 16. Make that 9.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:42, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• So for both teams the average margin of victory in the three previous games was 16 (Denver had lost all 3 and Pittsburgh had won 2 of theirs).- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done You need to link to 2009 BCS National Championship Game in the WP:LEAD. Also the Broncos and Steelers should be piped to their 2011 season articles.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply

   Done I believe that I have done this The team links need to be the team season links. This was not a game between the Denver Broncos and the Pittsburgh Steelers. It was a game between the 2011 Denver Broncos and the 2011 Pittsburgh Steelers. That is where readers need to go to find out about these two teams. That is even where you need to go to find the HoFers for this game.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:08, 21 March 2024 (UTC) reply

•  Done "When Tim Tebow played college football for the Florida Gators in 2009" should instead be linked to the 2008 Florida Gators season, because that was the actual team.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done I am not seeing content about the shortest overtime in history. Make sure that is sourced.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC) First line in this article. reply
• Just seeing footnote about 3.16 y/carry being wrong.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done You will need to add a writeup about the game.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC) I may do a more comprehensive summary later, but for now it catches the high poiunts reply
• Because there is so much to do, I nearly failed this article. However, since the article is short, I'll stick around and wait to see how you respond. I'll put this on hold. This will be a first pass. I will have to come back through after you add a lot of the missing stuff.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:13, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
•  Done corrected thanks Sometimes you spell Pittsburgh with an h and sometimes without.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• At one point I thought you had added "in that order", which I no longer see.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  I have what I understood it to mean in the second sentence of the lead. But I may be confused about the request. I will add the words in that order in case that is what you meant. Lightburst ( talk) 14:41, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

• I see one of the margin of victory coincidences has been moved to the footnotes, which is a judgement call, given its WP:RS absence by traditional inspection.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply

  yes, the item felt slightly like OR to me because no other RS mentioned it as unusual or related.

• I'm am going to look closer at the sources before promoting this. I await your response to these two issues.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 11:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC) reply
• I did promote this yesterday. Great work. The article has come a long way.- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC) reply