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39th Infantry during WWII

I've seen concrete evidence of the 39th division being deployed to the Pacific in 1942. Medical evac records for a fellow from M Company and a Corporal in B Co. I think they're from Leyte.

Perhaps ought not to trust dem Cajuns so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.241.228 ( talk) 00:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC) reply

Some suggestions

Good work so far with this article. I have the following suggestions for further improvement:

  • I think the lead needs to be tweaked slightly. For instance, I suggest adding this as the first sentence: "The 39th Infantry Division was an infantry division of the Army National Guard. Originally formed as the 18th Division in 1917..." as this gives a clearer idea of what the subject of the article is; ' Done
  • in Citation # 1 you have used the short citation style, however, you don't appear to have provided the full bibliographic details for the book by McGrath. I suggest creating a References section and adding the full bibliographic details there. Relevant policy link: WP:CITESHORT; Done
  • citations to sources that are the same could be consolidated per WP:NAMEDREFS, e.g. Citations # 7 and 8 "War Department, Annual Reports, 1918, Report of the Chief of the Militia Bureau, Table 14, Page 1184";
  • some of the web citations aren't embedded (thus the url chains are showing), e.g. Citation # 40. If you format them with the {{ cite web}} template it will give a "cleaner" look;
  • the citations to the Arkansas Gazette: are these articles available online? If so, it is best to link through to them as it aids in the verification process; Answer The articles are not avaiable on line, they are on micro film at the Central Little Rock Library
  • in some of the citations you have "Page", but in others you have "p.". These should be consistent, and IMO "p." is the generally accepted standard;-  Done
  • you have "Sixty-fourth Field Artillery Brigade" (and other examples elsewhere in the article), but should it be "64th Field Artillery Brigade";
  • I suggest subordinating the World War I order of battle section (which is currently above World War I), and putting it inside the World War I section;  Done
  • Is the Lineage and Honors certificate available online? If so, you should link it for verification purposes; Answer It is not available on line, National Guard Units Lineage and Honors Certificates are not currently posted on the Army Center for Military History website.
  • some of the date format is inconsistent, for instance sometimes you have "August 6, 1918" but then in other places you have "1 August 1918" (for instance in the Deployed to France section), these should be consistent (either format is fine, but consistency is the key); -  Done I think I caught all of these
  • If you are thinking of taking this towards a Good Article review, I'd suggest putting it up for peer review and also maybe making a request for a copy edit at the Guild of Copy Editors. -  Done-- Diannaa ( Talk) 03:41, 20 August 2010 (UTC) AustralianRupert ( talk) 15:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC) reply

Future Plans

  • Expand the section on Renumbering and convert to a table showing the origins of all units and their new federal desigations.
  • Add information on Division Commander's
  • Add a section detailing the stations of divisional unts 1946-1967. Damon.cluck ( talk) 12:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC) reply

"Skeletonized"

Is this a discipline-specific word I'm not familiar with? Was just copyediting and found it twice in 39th Infantry Division (United States)#Designation as a Depot Division so I decided to leave it as is. Your reply is much appreciated. Paulmnguyen ( talk) 06:22, 19 August 2010 (UTC) reply

I removed it. -- Diannaa ( Talk) 03:42, 20 August 2010 (UTC) reply
The term referred to manner in which existing divisions were stripped of their troops for use as replacements during WWI. The unit was not disbanded, but all members, except for one officer and one enlisted soldier per regiment were transferred out of the unit. The original intent was that the remaining office and enlisted soldier would maintain the unit records and some tracking on what happened to its original members, but this does not seem to have been successful because with the 39th Division I have no direct record of how the former unit members were utilized for replacements. Damon.cluck ( talk) 03:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC) reply

I need help reverting these changes. I intended to make the changes in my userspace and got confused, Please help.

(cur | prev) 23:03, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (47,506 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959, The Pentomic Division: deleted section) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:02, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,560 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959: moved slide) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:02, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,480 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959, The Pentomic Division: moved slide) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:01, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,560 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959: bulets) (undo) (cur | prev) 22:58, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,576 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959, The Pentomic Division: added restationing plan) (undo)

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39th Division in WWII

The 13 Jun 1945 edition of The Cumberland Evening Times provides a list of twelve men from Baltimore, Maryland serving with the "39th Division" who were returning to the US from Bremen, Germany, leaving the European Theater of Operations. Find-a-Grave has the 1944 grave of PFC Hirsch Davis of the 39th Infantry Division. List of United States divisions during World War II mentions that the 39th Infantry Division wasn't activated during WWII but certain elements saw service under other divisions. Perhaps a section on WWII is in order? Pnoble805 ( talk) 06:04, 21 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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39th Infantry during WWII

I've seen concrete evidence of the 39th division being deployed to the Pacific in 1942. Medical evac records for a fellow from M Company and a Corporal in B Co. I think they're from Leyte.

Perhaps ought not to trust dem Cajuns so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.241.228 ( talk) 00:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC) reply

Some suggestions

Good work so far with this article. I have the following suggestions for further improvement:

  • I think the lead needs to be tweaked slightly. For instance, I suggest adding this as the first sentence: "The 39th Infantry Division was an infantry division of the Army National Guard. Originally formed as the 18th Division in 1917..." as this gives a clearer idea of what the subject of the article is; ' Done
  • in Citation # 1 you have used the short citation style, however, you don't appear to have provided the full bibliographic details for the book by McGrath. I suggest creating a References section and adding the full bibliographic details there. Relevant policy link: WP:CITESHORT; Done
  • citations to sources that are the same could be consolidated per WP:NAMEDREFS, e.g. Citations # 7 and 8 "War Department, Annual Reports, 1918, Report of the Chief of the Militia Bureau, Table 14, Page 1184";
  • some of the web citations aren't embedded (thus the url chains are showing), e.g. Citation # 40. If you format them with the {{ cite web}} template it will give a "cleaner" look;
  • the citations to the Arkansas Gazette: are these articles available online? If so, it is best to link through to them as it aids in the verification process; Answer The articles are not avaiable on line, they are on micro film at the Central Little Rock Library
  • in some of the citations you have "Page", but in others you have "p.". These should be consistent, and IMO "p." is the generally accepted standard;-  Done
  • you have "Sixty-fourth Field Artillery Brigade" (and other examples elsewhere in the article), but should it be "64th Field Artillery Brigade";
  • I suggest subordinating the World War I order of battle section (which is currently above World War I), and putting it inside the World War I section;  Done
  • Is the Lineage and Honors certificate available online? If so, you should link it for verification purposes; Answer It is not available on line, National Guard Units Lineage and Honors Certificates are not currently posted on the Army Center for Military History website.
  • some of the date format is inconsistent, for instance sometimes you have "August 6, 1918" but then in other places you have "1 August 1918" (for instance in the Deployed to France section), these should be consistent (either format is fine, but consistency is the key); -  Done I think I caught all of these
  • If you are thinking of taking this towards a Good Article review, I'd suggest putting it up for peer review and also maybe making a request for a copy edit at the Guild of Copy Editors. -  Done-- Diannaa ( Talk) 03:41, 20 August 2010 (UTC) AustralianRupert ( talk) 15:19, 3 August 2010 (UTC) reply

Future Plans

  • Expand the section on Renumbering and convert to a table showing the origins of all units and their new federal desigations.
  • Add information on Division Commander's
  • Add a section detailing the stations of divisional unts 1946-1967. Damon.cluck ( talk) 12:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC) reply

"Skeletonized"

Is this a discipline-specific word I'm not familiar with? Was just copyediting and found it twice in 39th Infantry Division (United States)#Designation as a Depot Division so I decided to leave it as is. Your reply is much appreciated. Paulmnguyen ( talk) 06:22, 19 August 2010 (UTC) reply

I removed it. -- Diannaa ( Talk) 03:42, 20 August 2010 (UTC) reply
The term referred to manner in which existing divisions were stripped of their troops for use as replacements during WWI. The unit was not disbanded, but all members, except for one officer and one enlisted soldier per regiment were transferred out of the unit. The original intent was that the remaining office and enlisted soldier would maintain the unit records and some tracking on what happened to its original members, but this does not seem to have been successful because with the 39th Division I have no direct record of how the former unit members were utilized for replacements. Damon.cluck ( talk) 03:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC) reply

I need help reverting these changes. I intended to make the changes in my userspace and got confused, Please help.

(cur | prev) 23:03, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (47,506 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959, The Pentomic Division: deleted section) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:02, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,560 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959: moved slide) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:02, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,480 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959, The Pentomic Division: moved slide) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:01, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,560 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959: bulets) (undo) (cur | prev) 22:58, 3 November 2010 Damon.cluck (talk | contribs) (52,576 bytes) (→Reorganization of 1959, The Pentomic Division: added restationing plan) (undo)

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The 13 Jun 1945 edition of The Cumberland Evening Times provides a list of twelve men from Baltimore, Maryland serving with the "39th Division" who were returning to the US from Bremen, Germany, leaving the European Theater of Operations. Find-a-Grave has the 1944 grave of PFC Hirsch Davis of the 39th Infantry Division. List of United States divisions during World War II mentions that the 39th Infantry Division wasn't activated during WWII but certain elements saw service under other divisions. Perhaps a section on WWII is in order? Pnoble805 ( talk) 06:04, 21 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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