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I have searched and searched, and I can't find evidence that the Turkish shore was disturbed by Helios, or that anyone died there, or elsewhere. Look at the editor who added that information. They were just blocked today for participating in a meatpuppet vandalism campaign of some sort. Their history of edits today certainly includes acts of vandalism. It also includes contentious edits that might look familiar to some editors here.
So, did this really happen, or should it be deleted? Dcs002 ( talk) 03:04, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
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I've added a subsection to the Background and naming section to answer the kinds of questions I've been carrying on about for a few weeks now. I tried to reflect the general requirements and the diversity of criteria. Note that the Western Group's criteria are stated as "generally requires a likelihood of widespread sustained wind speeds > 65 km/h or widespread gust speeds > 110 km/h." That's quoted from Met Eireann. It's not an exact match to other countries, but it's close. The Dutch use gust speeds of 120 km/h during the 6-month storm season and 100 km/h during the rest of the year (it's in the Dutch language cit). I also ran into problems because I didn't see definitions for the term windstorm anywhere except research literature, only criteria for issuing names and warnings, so I didn't elaborate beyond that. (Note that the last paragraph in this section was already there. It says there are only 2 main naming organizations. Should that be deleted or changed to reflect the numerous naming organizations there are now?)
Please look it over and fix any stupid errors I've made. Thanks! Dcs002 ( talk) 01:57, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
I cannot seem to find any to show that a STORM Kamiel has been named, maybe we should have storm Kamiel? EuropeanXTwisters ( talk) 07:58, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I've decided that Juliette 2023 track will be the last European windstorm track I will make. The data for the track maps are sparce and this all started from low quality track maps created by a banned sock puppeteer. I was good making these for ~5 months, but I've decided to end it. If anyone else wants to continue them, you are free to do so. RandomInfinity17 ( talk - contributions) 19:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
As far as I’m concerned, there are missing storms here. It’s stormy in Poland at the moment, so there must be a missing storm. I also see a great achievement on this article, I have made it mature and professional, and I’ve removed immature grammar and woke information, so I’m proud of myself for that. but the issue here is the bad design of the article. why are there long walls of text? It must be shorter, because the amount of information I have to read gives me headaches and the information doesn’t add up. so what I am going to do is try and make the information shorter so that the reading time goes from an hour, to about half an hour Fortunately I have also added more sources that were necessary for the Wikipedia article page information. bht the article need sensation, less projection more images maybe and less bigoted content but interesting content which make readers “live the moment†so if someone can do that that be great but watch your grammar than. I’m also thinking of evoking the timesheets again for readers clearer And also make sure to use posh words for example unspecified and keep rhe information readable so readers can see well. 2A02:A44C:6682:1:61C6:CF1D:B4A6:A926 ( talk) 12:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
The death in Amsterdam on March 13 seems likely to be caused by the storm Larisa as it vast already in Danemark by the 11th according to the surface map https://www.met.fu-berlin.de/de/wetter/maps/Analyse_20230311.gif. Pierre cb ( talk) 19:21, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I cut the last paragraph from the Definitions and naming conventions subsection. It was outdated, and it contained only information described again in the next two subsections. Please, I think someone needs to address the paragraph before the Definitions subsection, the first paragraph in the Background and naming section. It's just a bit of history about the Western Group, which really should be merged into that section. In its current position it should contain info about the entire section. Dcs002 ( talk) 04:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
In the UKMO Twitter, it mentions that Italy named Storm Ilina. Can you make a section on it? https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1642164663030001664 Cabociano ( talk) 13:11, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Heading into UK now. It seems the met office hasn't named it yet but the press have. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/storm-antoni-could-hit-wales-26654615 Thelisteninghand ( talk) 23:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Since 2022, also heavy rain episodes are being named, so is not better use the name "severe weather season" or "storm season"? ( https://twitter.com/AEMET_Esp/status/1435922054461669378) Marcia Bia ( talk) 13:04, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
In the FUB's outlook, a storm that is dubbed 'int.Olga' can be seen. Can anyone add it? Cabociano ( talk) 03:43, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
When should me make a 2023-24 European Windstorm Season article? The next season starts in 0 days. EuropeanXTwisters ( talk) 10:03, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Since 2021, the rain storms are also named ( https://twitter.com/aemet_esp/status/1435919868390486016) so this is not only about winds. So, in my opinion, the article should be about "European storm season". Marcia Bia ( talk) 15:20, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
I’ve removed storm Daniel from this article. And I moved it to 2023-2024 European Windstorms, it took place from early-mid September, which is in the new storm season as it started 1/9/23. 2A02:A44C:6682:1:35FE:51C4:3219:AC42 ( talk) 12:53, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
@ WeatherWriter: There needs to be a split somewhere as this article is covering too much due to the nature of the system set up. Personally, I think we are over-thinking things if we split by weather types and my thinking was more to split it into two articles, one that covers the Atlantic naming schemes (ie: UKMO, ME, KNMI, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and Luxembourg) and one that covers the Mediterranean so to speak. I need to do some more research into the naming schemes before I feel confident in implementing this split though. Jason Rees ( talk) 20:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
What about splitting off 2022–23 European winter for all of the windstorms that produced snow? A blizzard is a very different type of weather event than one that is predominantly rain, wind, and flooding based. You could move Bettina and Storm Filomena. European windstorms are a bit different than anywhere else around the world. It would be like if every cyclone in the Atlantic and eastern Pacific were named, including nor'easters and tropical cyclones, so there would be an article for 2022-23 North American windstorm season separate from the hurricane season. By having an article for the European winter, we can also include snow events that aren't named as individual winter storms (however infrequent that might be). Just an idea. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
In the article for Storm Daniel the total fatalities is listed as +4034. So +11000 is wrong. Aminabzz ( talk) 19:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
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I have searched and searched, and I can't find evidence that the Turkish shore was disturbed by Helios, or that anyone died there, or elsewhere. Look at the editor who added that information. They were just blocked today for participating in a meatpuppet vandalism campaign of some sort. Their history of edits today certainly includes acts of vandalism. It also includes contentious edits that might look familiar to some editors here.
So, did this really happen, or should it be deleted? Dcs002 ( talk) 03:04, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Pings (Users who have commented on this topic, no ip's): @ Mitch199811:@ Jason Rees: @ Egghead2000: @ EuropeanXTwisters: @ Lacunae: @ Elijahandskip: @ Lama 1234567890: @ RandomInfinity17:
I've added a subsection to the Background and naming section to answer the kinds of questions I've been carrying on about for a few weeks now. I tried to reflect the general requirements and the diversity of criteria. Note that the Western Group's criteria are stated as "generally requires a likelihood of widespread sustained wind speeds > 65 km/h or widespread gust speeds > 110 km/h." That's quoted from Met Eireann. It's not an exact match to other countries, but it's close. The Dutch use gust speeds of 120 km/h during the 6-month storm season and 100 km/h during the rest of the year (it's in the Dutch language cit). I also ran into problems because I didn't see definitions for the term windstorm anywhere except research literature, only criteria for issuing names and warnings, so I didn't elaborate beyond that. (Note that the last paragraph in this section was already there. It says there are only 2 main naming organizations. Should that be deleted or changed to reflect the numerous naming organizations there are now?)
Please look it over and fix any stupid errors I've made. Thanks! Dcs002 ( talk) 01:57, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
I cannot seem to find any to show that a STORM Kamiel has been named, maybe we should have storm Kamiel? EuropeanXTwisters ( talk) 07:58, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
I've decided that Juliette 2023 track will be the last European windstorm track I will make. The data for the track maps are sparce and this all started from low quality track maps created by a banned sock puppeteer. I was good making these for ~5 months, but I've decided to end it. If anyone else wants to continue them, you are free to do so. RandomInfinity17 ( talk - contributions) 19:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
As far as I’m concerned, there are missing storms here. It’s stormy in Poland at the moment, so there must be a missing storm. I also see a great achievement on this article, I have made it mature and professional, and I’ve removed immature grammar and woke information, so I’m proud of myself for that. but the issue here is the bad design of the article. why are there long walls of text? It must be shorter, because the amount of information I have to read gives me headaches and the information doesn’t add up. so what I am going to do is try and make the information shorter so that the reading time goes from an hour, to about half an hour Fortunately I have also added more sources that were necessary for the Wikipedia article page information. bht the article need sensation, less projection more images maybe and less bigoted content but interesting content which make readers “live the moment†so if someone can do that that be great but watch your grammar than. I’m also thinking of evoking the timesheets again for readers clearer And also make sure to use posh words for example unspecified and keep rhe information readable so readers can see well. 2A02:A44C:6682:1:61C6:CF1D:B4A6:A926 ( talk) 12:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
The death in Amsterdam on March 13 seems likely to be caused by the storm Larisa as it vast already in Danemark by the 11th according to the surface map https://www.met.fu-berlin.de/de/wetter/maps/Analyse_20230311.gif. Pierre cb ( talk) 19:21, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I cut the last paragraph from the Definitions and naming conventions subsection. It was outdated, and it contained only information described again in the next two subsections. Please, I think someone needs to address the paragraph before the Definitions subsection, the first paragraph in the Background and naming section. It's just a bit of history about the Western Group, which really should be merged into that section. In its current position it should contain info about the entire section. Dcs002 ( talk) 04:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
In the UKMO Twitter, it mentions that Italy named Storm Ilina. Can you make a section on it? https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1642164663030001664 Cabociano ( talk) 13:11, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Heading into UK now. It seems the met office hasn't named it yet but the press have. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/storm-antoni-could-hit-wales-26654615 Thelisteninghand ( talk) 23:11, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Since 2022, also heavy rain episodes are being named, so is not better use the name "severe weather season" or "storm season"? ( https://twitter.com/AEMET_Esp/status/1435922054461669378) Marcia Bia ( talk) 13:04, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
In the FUB's outlook, a storm that is dubbed 'int.Olga' can be seen. Can anyone add it? Cabociano ( talk) 03:43, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
When should me make a 2023-24 European Windstorm Season article? The next season starts in 0 days. EuropeanXTwisters ( talk) 10:03, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
Since 2021, the rain storms are also named ( https://twitter.com/aemet_esp/status/1435919868390486016) so this is not only about winds. So, in my opinion, the article should be about "European storm season". Marcia Bia ( talk) 15:20, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
I’ve removed storm Daniel from this article. And I moved it to 2023-2024 European Windstorms, it took place from early-mid September, which is in the new storm season as it started 1/9/23. 2A02:A44C:6682:1:35FE:51C4:3219:AC42 ( talk) 12:53, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
@ WeatherWriter: There needs to be a split somewhere as this article is covering too much due to the nature of the system set up. Personally, I think we are over-thinking things if we split by weather types and my thinking was more to split it into two articles, one that covers the Atlantic naming schemes (ie: UKMO, ME, KNMI, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and Luxembourg) and one that covers the Mediterranean so to speak. I need to do some more research into the naming schemes before I feel confident in implementing this split though. Jason Rees ( talk) 20:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
What about splitting off 2022–23 European winter for all of the windstorms that produced snow? A blizzard is a very different type of weather event than one that is predominantly rain, wind, and flooding based. You could move Bettina and Storm Filomena. European windstorms are a bit different than anywhere else around the world. It would be like if every cyclone in the Atlantic and eastern Pacific were named, including nor'easters and tropical cyclones, so there would be an article for 2022-23 North American windstorm season separate from the hurricane season. By having an article for the European winter, we can also include snow events that aren't named as individual winter storms (however infrequent that might be). Just an idea. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
In the article for Storm Daniel the total fatalities is listed as +4034. So +11000 is wrong. Aminabzz ( talk) 19:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)