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Scotland & Catalonia

Since the Scottish nearly voted for independence in a referendum and SNP might push for a 2nd independence referendum to keep Scotland in the E.U., perhaps we should acknowledge that Scottish nationalism is a thing. Catalonia has voted for independence from Spain, and regardless of the technical legality of that referendum, the Catalan have a right to self-determination.

Anyway, Scotland and Catalonia should have their flags used where applicable. But I am open to opposing opinions.

Abzeronow ( talk) 03:59, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Scottish nationalism is largely irrelevant in legal matters. However there is the matter of Scots law. Due to the terms of the Acts of Union 1707, Scotland has a different legal system than the rest of the United Kingdom, and a number of laws apply only to Scotland. Dimadick ( talk) 09:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I think Wikipedia are concerned about the current facts, not "what is going to be", or "might have beens". We don't care about the local laws of Catalonia, or Scotland, as well as the local laws of Colorado in USA; or Alberta in Canada; etc, until Scotland, or Catalonia, became sovereign states.-- Maher27777 ( talk) 20:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply

It's WP:CRYSTAL to say because it may one day be independent that we should list it separately. You can probably say of that hundreds of areas across the world. With regards to Scots law, intellectual property (including copyright) is a matter reserved to the British government (i.e. not devolved). Scotland can't legislate on the length and terms of copyright separately to the rest of Britain. To pre-union laws, copyright as a concept really dates from the Statute of Anne (1710), i.e. after union. -- Inops ( talk) 15:23, 3 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks, Dimadick, Mahar27777 & Inops. I'll keep entries as "United Kingdom" rather than "Scotland". I tried looking up Palestine's copyright laws, but no mention in the page or the Length of Copyright list. Should any Palestine entry be changed to Israel or just remain as is?

Abzeronow ( talk) 18:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC) reply

This is apparently a Wikipedia omission. The template "Copyright law of Asia" mentions that we lack articles for copyright laws in several of the Asian states. Here is a document on the copyrights laws of Palestine, from the time of Mandatory Palestine onwards: http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1049&context=stu_llm

Curiously some of the British-era legislations seem to have been still in effect in 2003. Dimadick ( talk) 21:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Russia

Note that in Russia the PD is not death+70, buit death +74 for the authors who worked during WWII (whatever this means). This does not apply to Berdyaev who lived in France at the time, but applies to the other for example Eisenstein and Sternberg. Actually, many of thos who died in 1944 will be entering PD in 2019.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 11:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply

I could add a note about Russia's quirky 74 years p.m.a for authors who worked during "The Great Patriotic War". Definitely aware of that since I also edit on Commons. Abzeronow ( talk) 17:24, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply
This would probably the easiest. Thank you.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 17:54, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Special thanks to contributors here

In general the public domain articles by year are not of broad interest and probably will not be of perpetual interest. 2019 is likely to be different because of the changes in practice in the United States from this point forward. It could happen that even 20 years from now, humanities studies, legal cases, journalism, and scholarly research in library and information science describe this year as a turning point which influenced global culture.

I want to call out contributors with extra editing on this page right now. Thanks Abzeronow, a relatively new Wikipedia contributor who believes in the importance of this topic and who has contributed more text, edits, and time to this article than anyone else as recorded in the edit log. Other users have contributed at least 2 valuable edits are @ Maher27777, Leutha, Greefan443, Inops, and Sj:, and possibly IP editors who have chosen to not identify themselves.

I want to acknowledge that as Wikipedia's activism builds out the information commons and the shared resources which we all use, a few wiki editors showed up to document a point when digital media was about to change in a fundamental way. Thanks for posting your pieces and building out this page as a historical record. When history was happening you were the people who showed up to recognize it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Bluerasberry I think 2019 not a year of turning point, but the right name to be called is a milestone year. Otherwise, public domain pages by year seem to be a summarizing of death categories. For example, 2019 in public domain lists is a summarizing of Category:1948 deaths, and Category:1968 deaths!!!

Language

There's no column with the language of the book? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 ( talk) 18:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Which work do you want to know the original language of? (some authors write in multiple languages) Abzeronow ( talk) 14:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Andrei Zhdanov

I notice there are some names, like Andrei Zhdanov, that's on the list. But when visiting the article, there appears to be no work mentioned. No books or any other writings, music, art or films. I get it that some people that were famous died in 1948, but unless they left some work behind, do they really belongs on the list? 84.208.233.159 ( talk) 01:27, 9 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Well yes, he has left some works behind – as added. Leutha ( talk) 08:30, 9 June 2019 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scotland & Catalonia

Since the Scottish nearly voted for independence in a referendum and SNP might push for a 2nd independence referendum to keep Scotland in the E.U., perhaps we should acknowledge that Scottish nationalism is a thing. Catalonia has voted for independence from Spain, and regardless of the technical legality of that referendum, the Catalan have a right to self-determination.

Anyway, Scotland and Catalonia should have their flags used where applicable. But I am open to opposing opinions.

Abzeronow ( talk) 03:59, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Scottish nationalism is largely irrelevant in legal matters. However there is the matter of Scots law. Due to the terms of the Acts of Union 1707, Scotland has a different legal system than the rest of the United Kingdom, and a number of laws apply only to Scotland. Dimadick ( talk) 09:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply

I think Wikipedia are concerned about the current facts, not "what is going to be", or "might have beens". We don't care about the local laws of Catalonia, or Scotland, as well as the local laws of Colorado in USA; or Alberta in Canada; etc, until Scotland, or Catalonia, became sovereign states.-- Maher27777 ( talk) 20:48, 2 February 2018 (UTC) reply

It's WP:CRYSTAL to say because it may one day be independent that we should list it separately. You can probably say of that hundreds of areas across the world. With regards to Scots law, intellectual property (including copyright) is a matter reserved to the British government (i.e. not devolved). Scotland can't legislate on the length and terms of copyright separately to the rest of Britain. To pre-union laws, copyright as a concept really dates from the Statute of Anne (1710), i.e. after union. -- Inops ( talk) 15:23, 3 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks, Dimadick, Mahar27777 & Inops. I'll keep entries as "United Kingdom" rather than "Scotland". I tried looking up Palestine's copyright laws, but no mention in the page or the Length of Copyright list. Should any Palestine entry be changed to Israel or just remain as is?

Abzeronow ( talk) 18:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC) reply

This is apparently a Wikipedia omission. The template "Copyright law of Asia" mentions that we lack articles for copyright laws in several of the Asian states. Here is a document on the copyrights laws of Palestine, from the time of Mandatory Palestine onwards: http://digitalcommons.law.uga.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1049&context=stu_llm

Curiously some of the British-era legislations seem to have been still in effect in 2003. Dimadick ( talk) 21:02, 3 February 2018 (UTC) reply

Russia

Note that in Russia the PD is not death+70, buit death +74 for the authors who worked during WWII (whatever this means). This does not apply to Berdyaev who lived in France at the time, but applies to the other for example Eisenstein and Sternberg. Actually, many of thos who died in 1944 will be entering PD in 2019.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 11:06, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply

I could add a note about Russia's quirky 74 years p.m.a for authors who worked during "The Great Patriotic War". Definitely aware of that since I also edit on Commons. Abzeronow ( talk) 17:24, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply
This would probably the easiest. Thank you.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 17:54, 7 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Special thanks to contributors here

In general the public domain articles by year are not of broad interest and probably will not be of perpetual interest. 2019 is likely to be different because of the changes in practice in the United States from this point forward. It could happen that even 20 years from now, humanities studies, legal cases, journalism, and scholarly research in library and information science describe this year as a turning point which influenced global culture.

I want to call out contributors with extra editing on this page right now. Thanks Abzeronow, a relatively new Wikipedia contributor who believes in the importance of this topic and who has contributed more text, edits, and time to this article than anyone else as recorded in the edit log. Other users have contributed at least 2 valuable edits are @ Maher27777, Leutha, Greefan443, Inops, and Sj:, and possibly IP editors who have chosen to not identify themselves.

I want to acknowledge that as Wikipedia's activism builds out the information commons and the shared resources which we all use, a few wiki editors showed up to document a point when digital media was about to change in a fundamental way. Thanks for posting your pieces and building out this page as a historical record. When history was happening you were the people who showed up to recognize it. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2018 (UTC) reply

Bluerasberry I think 2019 not a year of turning point, but the right name to be called is a milestone year. Otherwise, public domain pages by year seem to be a summarizing of death categories. For example, 2019 in public domain lists is a summarizing of Category:1948 deaths, and Category:1968 deaths!!!

Language

There's no column with the language of the book? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 ( talk) 18:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Which work do you want to know the original language of? (some authors write in multiple languages) Abzeronow ( talk) 14:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Andrei Zhdanov

I notice there are some names, like Andrei Zhdanov, that's on the list. But when visiting the article, there appears to be no work mentioned. No books or any other writings, music, art or films. I get it that some people that were famous died in 1948, but unless they left some work behind, do they really belongs on the list? 84.208.233.159 ( talk) 01:27, 9 June 2019 (UTC) reply

Well yes, he has left some works behind – as added. Leutha ( talk) 08:30, 9 June 2019 (UTC) reply

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