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I think a summary section would be enough, covering any previous matches between the teams. For most matches, there's a line (at most), so could easily be incorperated into a summary, as the section seems too small at the moment. What does anyone else think about this? - 97rob ( talk) 22:08, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
For the {{
Football match line-ups}}, if |head coach=yes
is used, then the title will change from 'manager' to 'head coach'. I looked at several national team articles, e.g.
England,
Chile and
France, and found that they all (of the ones I randomly looked at) used the term 'head coach'. Should we be changing the parameters on here to also reflect that? -
97rob (
talk) 20:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi everyone.
As I believe we will have a lot of problems with livescores and live updating I thought I should bring it up here so everyone knows about it.
Based on Wikipedia policies and guidlines we should not provide livescores and live updates. This is according to WP:LIVESCORES and WT:FOOTY consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 81#Live scoring and it has also been discussed at other time periods. This also applies to live updates to tables and list such as top goalscorers, squad statistics and other match info, which you can also read about at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 81#Live updates (again). Please wait until matches are finished before adding the scores and statistics. Wikipedia is not for livescoring and should wait for update until sources are updated. Thank you. QED237 (talk) 19:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
How detailed should we be of the events of each match. For example, the possible red card for Brazil and the disallowed goal in the second half, are both controversial decisions from the referee, which shaped the remainder of the game. In my opinion, both should be included in the description. - 97rob ( talk) 11:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
The Mexico v Cameroon match has kits added for both teams, yet there are no references to suggest they will play in those kits. Whilst it may be logical to editors that they'll be playing in those kits, we should be trying to source this. It also seems unlikely to me that they are both playing with red shorts - FIFA are trying to avoid clashes like this, I believe. For the moment, I've commented the kits out, so they can be easily reinstated if anyone has a source for it. - 97rob ( talk) 14:00, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I was just about to ask if anyone had found match photos which could be published on Wikipedia, but we've now got one for the first match. This website publishes photos with the correct licensing, so could be a useful place for people looking for more photos for later matches. - 97rob ( talk) 14:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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This article and the rest of the 2014 FIFA World Cup sub-articles should be semi-protected, at least until the end of the tournament. Too many random IPs are vandalising them and it's getting out of hand. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 15:39, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done That would violate too many policies as the edits are not clearly vandalism. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 15:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
The summary of the opening match between Brazil and Croatia is clearly biased. Quoting [ the wikipedia suggestion]
"If you can't or don't want to fix an error, your best approach depends on what kind of problem it is:
I tried the latter option and asked the contributor politely on the Talk page to avoid bias, however my comment was removed by Walter Görlitz with the reasoning "not a forum". To make it clear, is there any accepted method of reporting bias in an article, or not? Obviously I cannot provide any video evidence as fifa does not allow it. Whibu ( talk) 20:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Chanheigeorge regarding the overuse of the term "controversial." But I don't think adding post-match quotes from players and coaches is any better, because the losing team often complains about the officiating. Barryjjoyce ( talk) 21:58, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed that the lineup svg seems to stick out from the end of (some of) the written lineups, leaving a gap before the man of the match/assistant referees section. I've had a quick look at moving some of the code around to avoid this, and I've found a possible solution to this. It does mean a bit of a change from what we've got at the moment (not a huge one though), so I've brought it to here first to see what the reaction to it is. The current, and proposed, versions are currently housed at User:97rob/FootballMatchSVGs, so you can have a look there and see what you all think?- 97rob ( talk) 17:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
The "next day scenarios" are not to be inluded after consensus at WP:FOOTY. The consensus can be read at WT:FOOTY Archieve 82 (link to section) and the consensus was confirmed afterwards at WP:ANI after a editor still continued with the edit, which can bee seen at WP:ANI archieve 821 (link to section). The insertion of these scenarios has also been at Dispute resolution noticeboard where it was decided "Resolved against inclusion of the material" which you can read at DRN archieve 54 (link to section). So as I said no "next day scenarios" unless new consensus at WT:FOOTY. Older discussions like this discussion follow the same line. QED237 (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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I think a summary section would be enough, covering any previous matches between the teams. For most matches, there's a line (at most), so could easily be incorperated into a summary, as the section seems too small at the moment. What does anyone else think about this? - 97rob ( talk) 22:08, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
For the {{
Football match line-ups}}, if |head coach=yes
is used, then the title will change from 'manager' to 'head coach'. I looked at several national team articles, e.g.
England,
Chile and
France, and found that they all (of the ones I randomly looked at) used the term 'head coach'. Should we be changing the parameters on here to also reflect that? -
97rob (
talk) 20:17, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi everyone.
As I believe we will have a lot of problems with livescores and live updating I thought I should bring it up here so everyone knows about it.
Based on Wikipedia policies and guidlines we should not provide livescores and live updates. This is according to WP:LIVESCORES and WT:FOOTY consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 81#Live scoring and it has also been discussed at other time periods. This also applies to live updates to tables and list such as top goalscorers, squad statistics and other match info, which you can also read about at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Archive 81#Live updates (again). Please wait until matches are finished before adding the scores and statistics. Wikipedia is not for livescoring and should wait for update until sources are updated. Thank you. QED237 (talk) 19:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
How detailed should we be of the events of each match. For example, the possible red card for Brazil and the disallowed goal in the second half, are both controversial decisions from the referee, which shaped the remainder of the game. In my opinion, both should be included in the description. - 97rob ( talk) 11:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
The Mexico v Cameroon match has kits added for both teams, yet there are no references to suggest they will play in those kits. Whilst it may be logical to editors that they'll be playing in those kits, we should be trying to source this. It also seems unlikely to me that they are both playing with red shorts - FIFA are trying to avoid clashes like this, I believe. For the moment, I've commented the kits out, so they can be easily reinstated if anyone has a source for it. - 97rob ( talk) 14:00, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I was just about to ask if anyone had found match photos which could be published on Wikipedia, but we've now got one for the first match. This website publishes photos with the correct licensing, so could be a useful place for people looking for more photos for later matches. - 97rob ( talk) 14:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
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This article and the rest of the 2014 FIFA World Cup sub-articles should be semi-protected, at least until the end of the tournament. Too many random IPs are vandalising them and it's getting out of hand. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 15:39, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Not done That would violate too many policies as the edits are not clearly vandalism. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 15:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
The summary of the opening match between Brazil and Croatia is clearly biased. Quoting [ the wikipedia suggestion]
"If you can't or don't want to fix an error, your best approach depends on what kind of problem it is:
I tried the latter option and asked the contributor politely on the Talk page to avoid bias, however my comment was removed by Walter Görlitz with the reasoning "not a forum". To make it clear, is there any accepted method of reporting bias in an article, or not? Obviously I cannot provide any video evidence as fifa does not allow it. Whibu ( talk) 20:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
I agree with Chanheigeorge regarding the overuse of the term "controversial." But I don't think adding post-match quotes from players and coaches is any better, because the losing team often complains about the officiating. Barryjjoyce ( talk) 21:58, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I've noticed that the lineup svg seems to stick out from the end of (some of) the written lineups, leaving a gap before the man of the match/assistant referees section. I've had a quick look at moving some of the code around to avoid this, and I've found a possible solution to this. It does mean a bit of a change from what we've got at the moment (not a huge one though), so I've brought it to here first to see what the reaction to it is. The current, and proposed, versions are currently housed at User:97rob/FootballMatchSVGs, so you can have a look there and see what you all think?- 97rob ( talk) 17:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
The "next day scenarios" are not to be inluded after consensus at WP:FOOTY. The consensus can be read at WT:FOOTY Archieve 82 (link to section) and the consensus was confirmed afterwards at WP:ANI after a editor still continued with the edit, which can bee seen at WP:ANI archieve 821 (link to section). The insertion of these scenarios has also been at Dispute resolution noticeboard where it was decided "Resolved against inclusion of the material" which you can read at DRN archieve 54 (link to section). So as I said no "next day scenarios" unless new consensus at WT:FOOTY. Older discussions like this discussion follow the same line. QED237 (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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