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I just wanted to add that this game was profiled in the notable ESPN documentary on college football (from the early 2000s) "Rites of Autumn". -- Bobak ( talk) 15:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap ( talk · contribs) 09:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
I'll have a go at this one. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 09:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Comments
A thoroughly entertaining piece of sporting history, and a well-written and well-cited article with apposite illustrations, so my comments will be few.
- I suppose that the variety of football (clearly not
soccer) should be mentioned and linked somewhere.
- I piped "college football" in the first sentence to "collegiate American football", still linking to college football. My other idea was to have it as " collegiate American football" though I have some SEAOFBLUE concerns about that. More than happy to hear suggestions about how to better convey/display that. PCN02WPS ( talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe wikilink chemical formula.
- Governor Edwin P. Morrow: maybe say Kentucky governor since the state hasn't been mentioned yet: or maybe better, say Danville, Kentucky just above.
- At top of 'Recent years', maybe drop first word "After" and end sentence at "World War I", starting next sentence with "The team...". The next paragraph begins with "After", for one thing.
- "after the contest sold out[16]" -> "when the contest sold out,[16]"
- "a former Transylvania football player": this isn't the country, so maybe say "Transylvania University" or "Transylvania Pioneers" explicitly.
- "had not ever played" -> "had never played"
- 'Game summary' - I guess I can see why the heading was phrased this way but it's rather a dull one. Maybe 'Game play' or something on those lines? I'd be tempted to write 'The game itself' but people don't like the definite article.
- "impossible formula" image: suggest we say in the caption, and repeat the citation there, that the formula was painted all around Danville from soon after the game.
- 'See also': why not move the link to the text "largest upsets in the history of college football"? Or it could be a "Further" link at the top of 'Legacy'.
- It wouldn't fit for the "largest upsets" text since that list covers more than just historical upsets. I added it as a hatnote in "Legacy" with "See also" instead of "Further", since in my mind the latter gives the impression that there will be more reading about this game's legacy specifically instead of other games with notable legacies - also open to further suggestion here if you feel there is a better solution. PCN02WPS ( talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Images
- All images are from Commons; all are clearly PD as labelled there, except for the recent photograph by nom which is CC-by-SA.
- (I note in passing that [49] Danville Daily Messenger's front page would work really nicely as a thumbnail image in the article. Given its date, it must be PD. Obviously not a requirement for GA.)
Sources
- All spotchecks passed with flying colours.
Summary
This is a fine article and with the few small adjustments will make a worthy GA. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 15:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review and the kind words! Everything above has been fixed or responded to.
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- Super, it's a GA. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 18:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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The result was: promoted by
Lightburst
talk 04:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- ... that a professor said that
Harvard's football team had been poisoned by the "impossible
formula" of C6H0 (pictured) after
Centre
defeated them 6–0 in 1921? Source:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/football/2021/10/29/centre-college-upset-harvard-100-years-ago-today/8440391002/
- ALT1: ... that Centre's 1921 defeat of Harvard is widely considered one of the greatest upsets in college football history? Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/44981258
- ALT2: ... that Harvard had not lost a varsity-level football game in nearly five years before their upset loss to Centre in 1921? Source: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/10.29.html
- ALT3: ... that after defeating Harvard in 1921, the Centre College football team was greeted by a homecoming party which included the governor of Kentucky? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-advocate-messenger-danville-messenge/81585269/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frederick Murray Trotter
- Comment: Article ran at DYK on August 12, 2008, and should be eligible again per WP:DYKNEW since five years have passed and article was promoted to GA three days ago.
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS ( talk). Self-nominated at 15:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I've heard of this before. I'll review it. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Nice work! Everything appears good. QPQ done. Image works. Although it did appear at DYK 16 years ago, I think you're right in that it is eligible to appear again.
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I just wanted to add that this game was profiled in the notable ESPN documentary on college football (from the early 2000s) "Rites of Autumn". -- Bobak ( talk) 15:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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I'll have a go at this one. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 09:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Comments
A thoroughly entertaining piece of sporting history, and a well-written and well-cited article with apposite illustrations, so my comments will be few.
- I suppose that the variety of football (clearly not
soccer) should be mentioned and linked somewhere.
- I piped "college football" in the first sentence to "collegiate American football", still linking to college football. My other idea was to have it as " collegiate American football" though I have some SEAOFBLUE concerns about that. More than happy to hear suggestions about how to better convey/display that. PCN02WPS ( talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe wikilink chemical formula.
- Governor Edwin P. Morrow: maybe say Kentucky governor since the state hasn't been mentioned yet: or maybe better, say Danville, Kentucky just above.
- At top of 'Recent years', maybe drop first word "After" and end sentence at "World War I", starting next sentence with "The team...". The next paragraph begins with "After", for one thing.
- "after the contest sold out[16]" -> "when the contest sold out,[16]"
- "a former Transylvania football player": this isn't the country, so maybe say "Transylvania University" or "Transylvania Pioneers" explicitly.
- "had not ever played" -> "had never played"
- 'Game summary' - I guess I can see why the heading was phrased this way but it's rather a dull one. Maybe 'Game play' or something on those lines? I'd be tempted to write 'The game itself' but people don't like the definite article.
- "impossible formula" image: suggest we say in the caption, and repeat the citation there, that the formula was painted all around Danville from soon after the game.
- 'See also': why not move the link to the text "largest upsets in the history of college football"? Or it could be a "Further" link at the top of 'Legacy'.
- It wouldn't fit for the "largest upsets" text since that list covers more than just historical upsets. I added it as a hatnote in "Legacy" with "See also" instead of "Further", since in my mind the latter gives the impression that there will be more reading about this game's legacy specifically instead of other games with notable legacies - also open to further suggestion here if you feel there is a better solution. PCN02WPS ( talk | contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Images
- All images are from Commons; all are clearly PD as labelled there, except for the recent photograph by nom which is CC-by-SA.
- (I note in passing that [49] Danville Daily Messenger's front page would work really nicely as a thumbnail image in the article. Given its date, it must be PD. Obviously not a requirement for GA.)
Sources
- All spotchecks passed with flying colours.
Summary
This is a fine article and with the few small adjustments will make a worthy GA. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 15:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review and the kind words! Everything above has been fixed or responded to.
PCN02WPS (
talk |
contribs) 17:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Super, it's a GA. Chiswick Chap ( talk) 18:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Lightburst
talk 04:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- ... that a professor said that
Harvard's football team had been poisoned by the "impossible
formula" of C6H0 (pictured) after
Centre
defeated them 6–0 in 1921? Source:
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/football/2021/10/29/centre-college-upset-harvard-100-years-ago-today/8440391002/
- ALT1: ... that Centre's 1921 defeat of Harvard is widely considered one of the greatest upsets in college football history? Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/44981258
- ALT2: ... that Harvard had not lost a varsity-level football game in nearly five years before their upset loss to Centre in 1921? Source: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/10.29.html
- ALT3: ... that after defeating Harvard in 1921, the Centre College football team was greeted by a homecoming party which included the governor of Kentucky? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-advocate-messenger-danville-messenge/81585269/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frederick Murray Trotter
- Comment: Article ran at DYK on August 12, 2008, and should be eligible again per WP:DYKNEW since five years have passed and article was promoted to GA three days ago.
Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS ( talk). Self-nominated at 15:05, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I've heard of this before. I'll review it. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 01:51, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Overall:
Nice work! Everything appears good. QPQ done. Image works. Although it did appear at DYK 16 years ago, I think you're right in that it is eligible to appear again.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 02:07, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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