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What does the unicode symbol add ? Abtract ( talk) 07:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
What cleanup is needed here? Apart from the cleanup template, it seems fine to me..... • Anakin (talk) 17:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
This, which is the page's history link, made me laugh. LikeLakers2 ( talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:38, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Michael Brodsky has a novel, entitled ***, that's right, three asterisks. I expect to get the article on that novel going, probably next week.
The question is who gets what namespace.
The simplest possibility seems to be that this article gets turned into the article for the novel, and the page as it exists now becomes the hatnote "This page is about the novel. For the punctuation ***, see Ellipsis. For ⁂, see Asterism (typography). For ∴, see Therefore sign."
The other possibility is that this page is kept as is, and a separate "*** (novel)" page is created with a hatnote leading to this page.
"***" the novel is highly obscure outside the world of hard-core postmodern fanatics. So it's not as famous as the punctuation *** itself, and it will never generate as much traffic as the punctuation, but then again, the punctuation gets its actual article under an actual English word. That is, those interesting in the punctuation are forced to relocate if they type in *** under either possibility.
If I get no feedback against, I'll go forward with the first possibility.
Choor monster ( talk) 16:05, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
RHaworth wrote in his history reason: "I see no evidence that the novel is more notable than the other uses".
Well, I asked on the Talk page last week (the section above this one), proposing the move, got one response quoting WP:DABNAME which refers to "primary topic", not "most notable topic", and conceded that the novel would be primary. So on Monday I posted a Help request on my talk page, referring to this Talk page and I said I'd wait for objections until this Tuesday. No one responded to that request.
To me, the question is whether we even need a disambiguation page: I thought it simpler to use *** alone for the novel, and then use a hatnote to refer to the three punctuation possibilities.
At the moment, the Ellipsis *** punctuation article barely even mentions '***' as punctuation, instead concentrating on '...'. In contrast, **** redirects to a full-fledged article on what everyone knows **** means, and includes a hatnote to Andy Warhol's Four Stars (film). Similar, but not similar: I was surprised when I first started nosing around ***-namespace at what was actually present.
Speaking for myself, I honestly believe the message here is that there is no ***-as-punctuation article, and at the rate the Ellipsis article has been edited, there isn't going to be one. That is, ***-as-novel is primary by default.
I concede completely that the novel is extremely obscure—it does meet official WP notability guidelines for novels (see *** (novel)#Reception), but not much more.
Anyway, I'm not too concerned either way, I'm not interested in wikilawyering. This just seems to be an odd case between the lines. Choor monster ( talk) 18:40, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I posted here Template_talk:Disambiguation#page-title_parameter_and_***. I will not edit war, especially when I have no idea what's really going on anyway about the template. I suspect its doc-page is out of date. Choor monster ( talk) 18:19, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
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What does the unicode symbol add ? Abtract ( talk) 07:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
What cleanup is needed here? Apart from the cleanup template, it seems fine to me..... • Anakin (talk) 17:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
This, which is the page's history link, made me laugh. LikeLakers2 ( talk | Sign my guestbook!) 20:38, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Michael Brodsky has a novel, entitled ***, that's right, three asterisks. I expect to get the article on that novel going, probably next week.
The question is who gets what namespace.
The simplest possibility seems to be that this article gets turned into the article for the novel, and the page as it exists now becomes the hatnote "This page is about the novel. For the punctuation ***, see Ellipsis. For ⁂, see Asterism (typography). For ∴, see Therefore sign."
The other possibility is that this page is kept as is, and a separate "*** (novel)" page is created with a hatnote leading to this page.
"***" the novel is highly obscure outside the world of hard-core postmodern fanatics. So it's not as famous as the punctuation *** itself, and it will never generate as much traffic as the punctuation, but then again, the punctuation gets its actual article under an actual English word. That is, those interesting in the punctuation are forced to relocate if they type in *** under either possibility.
If I get no feedback against, I'll go forward with the first possibility.
Choor monster ( talk) 16:05, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
RHaworth wrote in his history reason: "I see no evidence that the novel is more notable than the other uses".
Well, I asked on the Talk page last week (the section above this one), proposing the move, got one response quoting WP:DABNAME which refers to "primary topic", not "most notable topic", and conceded that the novel would be primary. So on Monday I posted a Help request on my talk page, referring to this Talk page and I said I'd wait for objections until this Tuesday. No one responded to that request.
To me, the question is whether we even need a disambiguation page: I thought it simpler to use *** alone for the novel, and then use a hatnote to refer to the three punctuation possibilities.
At the moment, the Ellipsis *** punctuation article barely even mentions '***' as punctuation, instead concentrating on '...'. In contrast, **** redirects to a full-fledged article on what everyone knows **** means, and includes a hatnote to Andy Warhol's Four Stars (film). Similar, but not similar: I was surprised when I first started nosing around ***-namespace at what was actually present.
Speaking for myself, I honestly believe the message here is that there is no ***-as-punctuation article, and at the rate the Ellipsis article has been edited, there isn't going to be one. That is, ***-as-novel is primary by default.
I concede completely that the novel is extremely obscure—it does meet official WP notability guidelines for novels (see *** (novel)#Reception), but not much more.
Anyway, I'm not too concerned either way, I'm not interested in wikilawyering. This just seems to be an odd case between the lines. Choor monster ( talk) 18:40, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I posted here Template_talk:Disambiguation#page-title_parameter_and_***. I will not edit war, especially when I have no idea what's really going on anyway about the template. I suspect its doc-page is out of date. Choor monster ( talk) 18:19, 3 November 2015 (UTC)