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please change: In September 2011, an anti-corporate and anti-big bank protest in the Financial District, organized on social media, used Zuccotti Park as a campground and staging area for their actions
to read: In September 2011, an anti-corporate and anti-big bank protest in the Financial District, organized on social media, using Zuccotti Park as a campground and staging area for their actions
because: 'used' implies that this protest has ended (it hasn't), 'using' does not send this same message. Greenthumbnails ( talk) 22:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
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22:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)I'm not going to edit the article myself to reflect this, as I, shamefully in spite of my edit count, don't really remember to add the edit tag, but varying degrees of reliability of source for the informal (so no article moves) name change back to LPP: Muncie Free Press, NYT City Room, …I thought I had more but apparently that's all for now. Can someone give a second look-over and change the article if necessary? Thanks. Ab e g92 contribs 14:53, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
There are numerous internet sources that place Diana Taylor, the girlfriend of Mayor Bloomberg, on Brookfield's board of directors. Given how this is information tangential to the OWS movement, perhaps it should be included in this article? There is a veritable cornucopia of sources to pick and choose from while doing a simple Google search. 66.234.47.205 ( talk) 19:45, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry, you were going to add only the mayor's girldfriend, right? There's absolutely no reason to do that unless you wish the reader to infer that the fact has some sort of significance, which, without a reliable source to back it up, it doesn't, not on Wikipedia anyway. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 06:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Although the occupation of the park by protesters is obviously a very significant event in the park's history, this article is not about the protest, nor is it an annex to Occupy Wall Street. The focus of material added to this article must be narrow, about the park specifically, and significantly. Not everything that happens in the park because of the protest is significant in regard to the park (however significant it might be to the protest) I'd also point editors to the fact that Wikipedia is not a newspaper. it's an encyclopedia.
Also, because this is a controversial subject (the protest that is, not the park), all material added to the article must be supported by citations from reliable sources -- in general that means newspapers, magazines and news broadcasts which are known to check their facts and which have a general reputation for accuracy. Blogs, are not reliable sources, except for the opinions of the blogger, and if the blogger is nopt a notable person in of out him- or herself, that opinion doesn't belong in the article. "Street" newspapers, on- or off-line, with an unknown reputation regarding fact-checking are generally not considered to be reliable. Material which is not supported by reliable sources will be removed from the article, as will unsourced opinions and declarative statements, which violate WP:OR, WP:POV and WP:V. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 02:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The park existed before Occupy Wall Street and will exist afterwards. If you want to add something encyclopedic and not newsy to the Zuccotti Park article, use this as a mental test -- would this addition to this article make sense if OWS never took place here? patsw ( talk) 21:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
There are several plaza areas in New York City. The most famous of which is probably Rockefeller Center. These are areas of unroofed, unfenced private property where barriers are erected every year for one day to assert their private ownership. Even the vast plaza at the World Trade Center which was/is owned by a public authority managing it private property did this once a year ritual. This also allows the owners to define some rules of conduct for the public. Violation of these rules would be trespassing, and if you didn't leave upon request you would be subject to arrest.
Is the situation at Zuccotti unique? Namely that public access to it 24x7x365 is so unrestricted such that behavior, if done in a city, state, or federal park, or sidewalk would be an arrestable offense, but Zuccotti is uniquely in New York City its own private island of anarchy? I mention this to encourage others to research this as I am now. patsw ( talk) 02:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
An editor is atempting to insert into the article an extensive account of the clash between police and protestors who tried to re-occupy the part, in violation of WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. Since the primary source is a blog, WP:SPS was also violated. I reduced this to a one-line account sourced by a reliable source (the website of a local TV station), but the editor reverted. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:42, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
May I add a suggestion to resolve the occupation frustrations. I suggest that it be split into its own article. I will move it if you all okay with it. ( Alexf505 ( talk) 01:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC))
I was not talking about just the re-occupying, I was talking about taking all the occupy stuff off this page and moving it to it's own article titled 'Zuccotti Park Occupy Encampment." or "Zuccotti Park Occupation." People have been complaining about all the occupy stuff on this page. ( Alexf505 ( talk) 05:36, 2 January 2012 (UTC)).
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please change: In September 2011, an anti-corporate and anti-big bank protest in the Financial District, organized on social media, used Zuccotti Park as a campground and staging area for their actions
to read: In September 2011, an anti-corporate and anti-big bank protest in the Financial District, organized on social media, using Zuccotti Park as a campground and staging area for their actions
because: 'used' implies that this protest has ended (it hasn't), 'using' does not send this same message. Greenthumbnails ( talk) 22:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
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22:03, 23 September 2011 (UTC)I'm not going to edit the article myself to reflect this, as I, shamefully in spite of my edit count, don't really remember to add the edit tag, but varying degrees of reliability of source for the informal (so no article moves) name change back to LPP: Muncie Free Press, NYT City Room, …I thought I had more but apparently that's all for now. Can someone give a second look-over and change the article if necessary? Thanks. Ab e g92 contribs 14:53, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
There are numerous internet sources that place Diana Taylor, the girlfriend of Mayor Bloomberg, on Brookfield's board of directors. Given how this is information tangential to the OWS movement, perhaps it should be included in this article? There is a veritable cornucopia of sources to pick and choose from while doing a simple Google search. 66.234.47.205 ( talk) 19:45, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry, you were going to add only the mayor's girldfriend, right? There's absolutely no reason to do that unless you wish the reader to infer that the fact has some sort of significance, which, without a reliable source to back it up, it doesn't, not on Wikipedia anyway. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 06:05, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Although the occupation of the park by protesters is obviously a very significant event in the park's history, this article is not about the protest, nor is it an annex to Occupy Wall Street. The focus of material added to this article must be narrow, about the park specifically, and significantly. Not everything that happens in the park because of the protest is significant in regard to the park (however significant it might be to the protest) I'd also point editors to the fact that Wikipedia is not a newspaper. it's an encyclopedia.
Also, because this is a controversial subject (the protest that is, not the park), all material added to the article must be supported by citations from reliable sources -- in general that means newspapers, magazines and news broadcasts which are known to check their facts and which have a general reputation for accuracy. Blogs, are not reliable sources, except for the opinions of the blogger, and if the blogger is nopt a notable person in of out him- or herself, that opinion doesn't belong in the article. "Street" newspapers, on- or off-line, with an unknown reputation regarding fact-checking are generally not considered to be reliable. Material which is not supported by reliable sources will be removed from the article, as will unsourced opinions and declarative statements, which violate WP:OR, WP:POV and WP:V. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 02:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
The park existed before Occupy Wall Street and will exist afterwards. If you want to add something encyclopedic and not newsy to the Zuccotti Park article, use this as a mental test -- would this addition to this article make sense if OWS never took place here? patsw ( talk) 21:18, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
There are several plaza areas in New York City. The most famous of which is probably Rockefeller Center. These are areas of unroofed, unfenced private property where barriers are erected every year for one day to assert their private ownership. Even the vast plaza at the World Trade Center which was/is owned by a public authority managing it private property did this once a year ritual. This also allows the owners to define some rules of conduct for the public. Violation of these rules would be trespassing, and if you didn't leave upon request you would be subject to arrest.
Is the situation at Zuccotti unique? Namely that public access to it 24x7x365 is so unrestricted such that behavior, if done in a city, state, or federal park, or sidewalk would be an arrestable offense, but Zuccotti is uniquely in New York City its own private island of anarchy? I mention this to encourage others to research this as I am now. patsw ( talk) 02:30, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
An editor is atempting to insert into the article an extensive account of the clash between police and protestors who tried to re-occupy the part, in violation of WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. Since the primary source is a blog, WP:SPS was also violated. I reduced this to a one-line account sourced by a reliable source (the website of a local TV station), but the editor reverted. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 23:42, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
May I add a suggestion to resolve the occupation frustrations. I suggest that it be split into its own article. I will move it if you all okay with it. ( Alexf505 ( talk) 01:23, 2 January 2012 (UTC))
I was not talking about just the re-occupying, I was talking about taking all the occupy stuff off this page and moving it to it's own article titled 'Zuccotti Park Occupy Encampment." or "Zuccotti Park Occupation." People have been complaining about all the occupy stuff on this page. ( Alexf505 ( talk) 05:36, 2 January 2012 (UTC)).