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The article on Zouave. I believe that some American Legion posts have worn the uniform for parades. In the Danny Kaye film "The Court Jester," a credit appeared for them for a scene involving drilling knights. 71.106.207.23 20:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Stop deleting this addition: "In the film The 40 Year Old Virgin the main character Andy says, while painting a toy soldier of a Zouave with the help of a magnifying glass, "And now I am going to make your silver pants blue." See the relevant article on Wikiquote." It has as much relevance as any mention of Zouaves in pop culture, and is more "pop culture" than a reference to a Buster Keaton flick from the 20s. Watch the film, he really is painting a Zouave. 99.240.139.189 ( talk) 19:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
After the 40YOV imbroglio I thought I should contribute something that would be more widely considered of relevance to the article - I have added additional information about the Papal Zouaves. Unfortunately, information about the Papal and US Civil War Zouaves now seems to dwarf the information on the French Zouaves. Do people think it may be worthwhile to start a separate page for the Papal Zouaves? This could go into detail about how they were recruited, how foreign volunteers (especially from across the Atlantic) made their way to Rome, how they were trained, how the unit was set up administratively etc.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.139.189 ( talk) 03:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
The link to Sykes doesn't lead anywhere useful.
The article stated, Several Zouave Regiments were organized from American soldiers who adopted the name and the North African inspired uniforms during the American Civil War. Several implies four or five; the number of Zouave regiments was considerably higher than several. I edited accordingly.
The article also stated, The Zouave uniform was quite elaborate, to the extent of being unwieldy. For some regiments, yes, but for others, no. The 23rd (Birney), 72nd, and 95th (Gosline) Pennsylvania regiments -- all Zouaves -- had relatively simple uniforms which were rather close to the standard issue. So I edited accordingly.
The article further stated, a tight fitting short jacket without buttons. This is not correct. Some Zouave regiments had jackets without buttons but others clearly did, having what are often called "ball buttons." The three Pennsylvania Zouave regiments I referenced above all wore jackets with ball buttons. I therefore edited accordingly. David Hoag 21:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I was just wondering... Should a link to my user page be on there? -- Zouavman Le Zouave 10:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
There's just ONE reference, that definetely does not address the whole topic. What are the other references?
I changed the assessment on point B2 ("It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies.") to "no". The article lead states that "Zouave was the name given to certain infantry regiments in the French army, as well as to units in other armies which imitated the dress or drill of the French zouaves." From this it appears that the defining features of zouaves are dress and drill. However, the dress is only touched on here and there without a full explanation, and the drill is never mentioned. If these are the defining features of zouaves, then they need to be better explained in the article. If they are not the defining features of zouaves, then the lead should be changed. Cmadler ( talk) 14:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
...Charles or Carlos VII (pretender in c.1868-1909). Alfonso Carlos was Carlos VII's younger brother (he didn't became the Carlist pretender to the Spanish throne until 1931). See Carlism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 ( talk) 13:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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The article on Zouave. I believe that some American Legion posts have worn the uniform for parades. In the Danny Kaye film "The Court Jester," a credit appeared for them for a scene involving drilling knights. 71.106.207.23 20:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Stop deleting this addition: "In the film The 40 Year Old Virgin the main character Andy says, while painting a toy soldier of a Zouave with the help of a magnifying glass, "And now I am going to make your silver pants blue." See the relevant article on Wikiquote." It has as much relevance as any mention of Zouaves in pop culture, and is more "pop culture" than a reference to a Buster Keaton flick from the 20s. Watch the film, he really is painting a Zouave. 99.240.139.189 ( talk) 19:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
After the 40YOV imbroglio I thought I should contribute something that would be more widely considered of relevance to the article - I have added additional information about the Papal Zouaves. Unfortunately, information about the Papal and US Civil War Zouaves now seems to dwarf the information on the French Zouaves. Do people think it may be worthwhile to start a separate page for the Papal Zouaves? This could go into detail about how they were recruited, how foreign volunteers (especially from across the Atlantic) made their way to Rome, how they were trained, how the unit was set up administratively etc.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.139.189 ( talk) 03:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
The link to Sykes doesn't lead anywhere useful.
The article stated, Several Zouave Regiments were organized from American soldiers who adopted the name and the North African inspired uniforms during the American Civil War. Several implies four or five; the number of Zouave regiments was considerably higher than several. I edited accordingly.
The article also stated, The Zouave uniform was quite elaborate, to the extent of being unwieldy. For some regiments, yes, but for others, no. The 23rd (Birney), 72nd, and 95th (Gosline) Pennsylvania regiments -- all Zouaves -- had relatively simple uniforms which were rather close to the standard issue. So I edited accordingly.
The article further stated, a tight fitting short jacket without buttons. This is not correct. Some Zouave regiments had jackets without buttons but others clearly did, having what are often called "ball buttons." The three Pennsylvania Zouave regiments I referenced above all wore jackets with ball buttons. I therefore edited accordingly. David Hoag 21:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
I was just wondering... Should a link to my user page be on there? -- Zouavman Le Zouave 10:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
There's just ONE reference, that definetely does not address the whole topic. What are the other references?
I changed the assessment on point B2 ("It reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain major omissions or inaccuracies.") to "no". The article lead states that "Zouave was the name given to certain infantry regiments in the French army, as well as to units in other armies which imitated the dress or drill of the French zouaves." From this it appears that the defining features of zouaves are dress and drill. However, the dress is only touched on here and there without a full explanation, and the drill is never mentioned. If these are the defining features of zouaves, then they need to be better explained in the article. If they are not the defining features of zouaves, then the lead should be changed. Cmadler ( talk) 14:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
...Charles or Carlos VII (pretender in c.1868-1909). Alfonso Carlos was Carlos VII's younger brother (he didn't became the Carlist pretender to the Spanish throne until 1931). See Carlism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 ( talk) 13:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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