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«Tyazheliy Sputnik» (which is the same as «Heavy Sputnik») means «The complex of the probe and Block L stage» [1]. Examples of such complexes were Sputnik 7, Sputnik 8 with Venera 1 as the probe, Sputnik 23 with Mars 1 as the probe, Zond 1… Zond 3. All of them were launched by using Molniya (rocket) (aka SL-6/A-2-e) [2].
Zond 4… Zond 8 — were launched in a similar, but much heavier schema by Proton (rocket). Those «Zonds» were in fact Soyuz 7K-L1 unmanned spacecrafts with Block D 4th stage and the total weight at least above 20,000kg. Even though it was named on NASA site [3], as «Tyazheliy Sputnik» — that is quite different from the first «Tyazheliy Sputnik» — Sputnik 7. -- Alogrin ( talk) 11:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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Listing here for inclusion Kees08 (Talk) 07:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Nice work lately, great topic to focus on. Wondering if there are any useable photos of the spacecraft and, importantly, the tortoises and other travelers. The tortoises have a major historical role, and it would be nice to know as much about them as possible (I don't click on most links, so the good sources above may have some data), and how they died, where are the tortoise shells if kept, etc. Thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 12:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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Just a few things. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 04:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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@ Kees08: The list of Earthlings doesn't match up between the lead and the body. Were there mealwarms? Were mature wine flies included or were they just fruit fly eggs or wine fly eggs? --- Coffeeand crumbs 04:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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Siddiqi cites "Results of biological investigations undertaken on Zond-5, Zond-6 and Zond-7 stations" (page 161). Since Siddiqi had a source and the others did not, I ended up using his list in the prose. I think I can change the article to reflect Siddiqi, maybe after verifying that it interprets the source material accurately. Kees08 (Talk) 02:52, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks. Gog the Mild ( talk) 20:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I ran out of time to review all your edits, they look pretty good overall. I will try to look through the rest tomorrow; feel free to edit more between now and then. Kees08 (Talk) 07:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Did this really cause a scare in the US? all the sources I can find suggest that Jodrell Bank at least assumed it was a tape recording. Ulivi's Lunar Exploration Human Pioneers and Robot Surveyors certianly states that as does Harvey's soviet and russian lunar exploration. As does this fairly solid website which credits the same conclusion to Bochum space observatory. ©Geni ( talk) 21:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry I can't figure out how to change the link in the article, but maybe someone more knowledgeable can change it. The link in reference 4 no longer exists, but I think https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/the-first-earthlings-around-the-moon-were-two-soviet-tortoises is the same article. Bruce Mardle ( talk) 17:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
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«Tyazheliy Sputnik» (which is the same as «Heavy Sputnik») means «The complex of the probe and Block L stage» [1]. Examples of such complexes were Sputnik 7, Sputnik 8 with Venera 1 as the probe, Sputnik 23 with Mars 1 as the probe, Zond 1… Zond 3. All of them were launched by using Molniya (rocket) (aka SL-6/A-2-e) [2].
Zond 4… Zond 8 — were launched in a similar, but much heavier schema by Proton (rocket). Those «Zonds» were in fact Soyuz 7K-L1 unmanned spacecrafts with Block D 4th stage and the total weight at least above 20,000kg. Even though it was named on NASA site [3], as «Tyazheliy Sputnik» — that is quite different from the first «Tyazheliy Sputnik» — Sputnik 7. -- Alogrin ( talk) 11:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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Listing here for inclusion Kees08 (Talk) 07:52, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Nice work lately, great topic to focus on. Wondering if there are any useable photos of the spacecraft and, importantly, the tortoises and other travelers. The tortoises have a major historical role, and it would be nice to know as much about them as possible (I don't click on most links, so the good sources above may have some data), and how they died, where are the tortoise shells if kept, etc. Thanks. Randy Kryn ( talk) 12:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
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Just a few things. Nova Crystallis (Talk) 04:48, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
@
Coffeeandcrumbs: I am done for tonight if you want to rerun your date script, I accidentally reverted a couple of them.
Kees08
(Talk) 05:57, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
@ Kees08: The list of Earthlings doesn't match up between the lead and the body. Were there mealwarms? Were mature wine flies included or were they just fruit fly eggs or wine fly eggs? --- Coffeeand crumbs 04:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Payload other than tortoise:
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Siddiqi cites "Results of biological investigations undertaken on Zond-5, Zond-6 and Zond-7 stations" (page 161). Since Siddiqi had a source and the others did not, I ended up using his list in the prose. I think I can change the article to reflect Siddiqi, maybe after verifying that it interprets the source material accurately. Kees08 (Talk) 02:52, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
The result was: promoted by
Yoninah (
talk) 21:47, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
Improved to Good Article status by Kees08 ( talk). Nominated by Coffeeandcrumbs ( talk) at 05:04, 19 March 2019 (UTC).
Thanks. Gog the Mild ( talk) 20:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
I ran out of time to review all your edits, they look pretty good overall. I will try to look through the rest tomorrow; feel free to edit more between now and then. Kees08 (Talk) 07:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Did this really cause a scare in the US? all the sources I can find suggest that Jodrell Bank at least assumed it was a tape recording. Ulivi's Lunar Exploration Human Pioneers and Robot Surveyors certianly states that as does Harvey's soviet and russian lunar exploration. As does this fairly solid website which credits the same conclusion to Bochum space observatory. ©Geni ( talk) 21:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry I can't figure out how to change the link in the article, but maybe someone more knowledgeable can change it. The link in reference 4 no longer exists, but I think https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/the-first-earthlings-around-the-moon-were-two-soviet-tortoises is the same article. Bruce Mardle ( talk) 17:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC)