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There is absolutely no evidence that he was homosexual. During glam rock era there were other singers/groups in turkey who dressed like Zeki Muren. Maybe somebody should totally erase the part about homosexuality.
I just edited the article for wording/organization/etc.; I don't know anything about Müren. In general, the article needs to be more NPOV (not sound like a fan wrote it) and it needs substantiations of some of its assertions. Someone who does more about Müren and Turkey should address these questions:
Joshuardavis 15:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
SUGGESTION (4/16/06 by H.S.): Rewording of the sentence "Homosexuality is not commonly accepted in Turkish society." might be a good idea here. My arguments are:
1- This sounds like a wide generalization extending harshly to the present time. In fact, accaptance of gay public figures have changed considerably since the early times of Muren - e.g. Turkish art/pop culture scene nowadays includes many gay personalities who are very well received by the general public (which is true for individuals as well). I suggest we say something like "...was much less accepted in .... during the early and mid career of Z. Muren"
2- This piece of societal fact should better be stated in the article in a way that relates to Muren (perhaps emphasizing that he was one of the first gay/effeminate artists who didn't hide it, probably rendering it more acceptable to the society over the years)
Hi, I edited the article removing a completely irrelevant block of text written in Turkish (I believe), and from my knowledge of Hodja Nasreddin, I could say it was more of an attempt to destruct the article, as I see no relevance between Hodja Nasreddin and Zeki Muren. Especially after getting a little help from Google Translate to identify the contents of the aforementioned block of text I was sure that the text didn't belong to this article, not even in its English form. Therefore, I removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.93.44.163 ( talk) 09:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
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There is absolutely no evidence that he was homosexual. During glam rock era there were other singers/groups in turkey who dressed like Zeki Muren. Maybe somebody should totally erase the part about homosexuality.
I just edited the article for wording/organization/etc.; I don't know anything about Müren. In general, the article needs to be more NPOV (not sound like a fan wrote it) and it needs substantiations of some of its assertions. Someone who does more about Müren and Turkey should address these questions:
Joshuardavis 15:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
SUGGESTION (4/16/06 by H.S.): Rewording of the sentence "Homosexuality is not commonly accepted in Turkish society." might be a good idea here. My arguments are:
1- This sounds like a wide generalization extending harshly to the present time. In fact, accaptance of gay public figures have changed considerably since the early times of Muren - e.g. Turkish art/pop culture scene nowadays includes many gay personalities who are very well received by the general public (which is true for individuals as well). I suggest we say something like "...was much less accepted in .... during the early and mid career of Z. Muren"
2- This piece of societal fact should better be stated in the article in a way that relates to Muren (perhaps emphasizing that he was one of the first gay/effeminate artists who didn't hide it, probably rendering it more acceptable to the society over the years)
Hi, I edited the article removing a completely irrelevant block of text written in Turkish (I believe), and from my knowledge of Hodja Nasreddin, I could say it was more of an attempt to destruct the article, as I see no relevance between Hodja Nasreddin and Zeki Muren. Especially after getting a little help from Google Translate to identify the contents of the aforementioned block of text I was sure that the text didn't belong to this article, not even in its English form. Therefore, I removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.93.44.163 ( talk) 09:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
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