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I've removed some of the Trivia-stuff, simply because it's unimportant stuff (e.g. little cameos, endings in non-canonical games, ...).
Also, somebody should write something about his rivalry with Mike Haggar. Thanks, 1stLtLombardi 18:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Incorporated the trivia section into the main article, creating separate Fictional Character Bio and Character Development sections to incorporate them. Also corrected minor errors on gameplay mechanics. Lindsay40k ( talk) 00:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know who it was that added "Great Man" to Zangief's ending but I'm adding the Gorbachev apearence for the Trivia section.
SSF2 ending -- DanHibiki 21:57, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
The part about homosexuality has been removed until someone can offer up any real documentation or real examples as the Vega-Baka example makes no sense. Vega being an idiot correlated to homosexuality how? It could just be he believes Vega to be stupid. user: CunningLinguist
Err, sorry about that, I didnt meant to remove the Japanese link, I just removed the homosexuality paragraph and didnt notice I was removing it as well. My fault. Feel free to add it and anything else you feel pertinent that I may have changed as well.-- CunningLinguist 07:53, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Please add some sort of documentation/backup to the homosexuality bit or else it will be removed soon. If so many people beleive this there should be SOME documentation online.- CunningLinguist 05:15, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
According to Tiamat's Street Fighter Plot Guide, which is based on official Capcom publications, Zangief is indeed gay. All of the evidence he references is Japanese, so I cannot find and translate evidence on my own, but he provides several examples. Apparently, it is stated explicitly in The Official Street Fighter 2 Fanbook. His win quote against Ryu in Zero 3 is "I don't like projectiles, but I like you personally...." His profile says he dislikes "young beautiful women". The Capcom Fighting Evolution ending could be taken as a joke, seeing as compilations are not canonical, and is presenting the exact opposite of what his persona is. -- User:El Cid 07:45, 1 May 2003
Regardless whether or not he is gay, he doesn't like beautiful women, period. So the Capcom fighting ending is utterly wrong. The proof I had to support this is in the american version of Street Fighter Eternal. Though, I haven't read the book myself, I emailed Tiamat's and he said they included that info in the translated version. So we can throw out the ending in the latest game. Besides, the ending is also drawn by Udon, so most likely, they goofed up.
If you guys don't believe me, buy the sfe book and see for yourself.
Also, if any of you guys can read japanese, it would be best to find these source books that state he is gay and scan the page to show one of you guys to translate it and confirm it.
It's pretty clear to me that any claims that Zangief is gay are a stretch, at best. I think his membership in the LGBT Video Game Characters category is based on someone's political agenda to portray more video game characters as gay, rather than on any real evidence. 65.110.224.198 06:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Zangief is a closet gay, ok? It's not uncommon for gay stars to get into a fake straight relationship so the all the rumors and stress related to them will stop.
Zangief gay? lol. that's too funny. Well technically muzhelozhstvo (Men lying with men) was ruled as illegal in 1933 by Stalin in the Soviet Union. But these laws have likely been lifted long ago. Three cheers for the queer cossack.-- 207.225.65.89 06:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I think that it should be mentioned that he is gay at least in the japanese continuity, since the japanese book "All About Capcom" and the older "Official Street Fighter 2 fanbook" says he is and he says "I don't like projectiles, but I like you personally...." in the japanese version of Street Fighter Alpha 3. Caesarcub 18:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
....well, okay. From what Saiki TOLD me (I'm researching), Zangief IS
gay. Makes me look at his SF2 ending at quite a new light, now. "You dance very well, Mr. Ex-President." And one of his CvS2 win quotes is "My body is perfect! I should be in a magazine!" And there's also him prancing around in a succubus body without any emotional turmoil impact in Lilith's Marvel VS Capcom ending... Oo I'm not sure if that proves things there, but Saiki said that he's gay. Actually, the Japanese stereotype for a gay man is a big hairy scantily clad (usually in something like a thong) man, often with a mustache. Well, Zangief fits most of the bill, sans the 'stache (which I guess would be what Eagle's there for). On a side note, although the "dislikes young women" thing was added to his bio only recently (come SFZ3), Zangief's SUPPOSEDLY been officially gay ever since he was first designed. HOWEVER, other people who can read Japanese have been kind enough to try to get and dig through official sources so far, and so far have been unable to find the official statement that states Zangief is gay. So the newest stance the plot guide must take now is that there is some evidence, and one of the guide's most trusted people said he got it from official sources that Zangief was gay, BUT we have yet to be able to dig up the source now and that guy kinda... dissappeared off the face of the internet. More CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence is things like Zangief's special intro with Eagle (which MIGHT be a joke on how both men are gay, although it could also just be a simple display of how they both have whirling moves) and one of Zangief's win quotes to Ryu in Street Fighter Zero 3 (yea, the Japanese version has character to character win quotes that Capcom of USA didn't bother to translate, though I'm sure they would have cut this one out, anyways). "I don't like projectiles, but I like you personally...." I've been told that SFZ3 quotes like this one imply heavily that he's gay worded in ways where the implication is meant to be obvious (but of course could be lost in the translation when non-Japanese readers read it). The phrase is "Omae wa suki da!", which can be a phrase for someone confessing feelings for someone else. HOWEVER, as no official statement can be found despite our searching, right now all I can say is that it's POSSIBLE that Capcom meant to IMPLY a gayness POSSIBLY but not as obviously as they did with Eagle, until further information can be turned up otherwise.
Perhaps it's just meant to be an ambiguously gay-type joke, even.
Nowhere does it say that AAC or the SF2 Fanbook specifically says he's gay. Please don't make up facts. Danny Lilithborne 22:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm...After reading this, it may be possible that tiamat's info might be wrong. Correctly if I am wrong, but in Tiamat's faqs, he claims that he cannot read japanese, but has other ppl translated it for him. It is possible someone gave him bad info or that he made it up. I still have a hard time believing that Capcom USA owns the Street Fighter License, which he claims is true based on speculation from Akiman's site, Sota's former president Jerry, and the cover of the game saying capcom USA. It is possible that Akiman may have mistook the info wrong, which is why it was removed; I mean, it could be that Capcom granted Udon, a USA company, sole license to do all the sf art, which would make it hard for someone like Akiman-the creator of street fighter-to put professional art on his site. As for Jerry from SOTA, he thinks out loud a lot which claims that never happen or rubs off as arrogent. It just doesn't make sense that the president of high dreams, producers of the defunct capcom vs snk 2 toyline didn't hear of the license change, yet another toy maker has. Also, the Capcom usa ltd on the street fighter collection box could be an american compliation. I mean Capcom have been releasing collection games that are exclusive to america for the past few years. I also remember seein a USA ltd on the american version of Grand Trusimo. Doesn't mean Sony of America owns it. The biggest reason I don't believe this is true is because no other gamming magazine-online or offline ever mention this and they usually mention stuff like this, especially sites like joystiq.com It isn't uncommon to have rumors taken as fact online.
sorry, but l digress. Just that Tiamat might full of it. -- Doomzaber 08:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
It is worth including in the article a mention of the debate about Zangief's sexuality, and I have added a short section detailing the issue. Anonymously accusing those who believe he is homosexual of having a "political agenda" is not a strong argument for only mentioning the issue in the closet discussion; frankly, deleting all public mention of the issue smacks far more of a political agenda.
Gaming magazines have run articles about Zangief's sexuality, including joystiq [1] (article uploaded two years before the above posting claiming they have not - could you not be bothered to google 'Zangief + homosexual', Doomzaber?), gamecentral, gamespot [2], gaygamer [3], etc.
The fact that games websites attempting to sell advertising space to companies trying to sell products to a demographic of young males regard the sexuality of game characters as either unimportant or an excuse for some cheap homophobic jokes is not a reason to brush the issue under the carpet - it is in fact a reason to raise the issue.
So, the article now mentions that a debate exists about Zangief's sexuality, which is true and relevant to a fictional character biography; it cites evidence; it establishes a context of Capcom including LGBT characters in its games of the era in which Zangief debuted (admittedly this was because their US arm considered it to be more acceptable to commit aggravated assault against a male-to-female transsexual than a biological female...); and finally it does not make absolute claims.
Still, it would not surprise me to see this section deleted anyway... Lindsay40k ( talk) 23:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Can't we just mention something along the lines of "Many sources list Zangief is gay, though official confirmation has yet to be found"? I mean, is it really such a big deal that no mention should be made until everyone is 100% certain that it's true? Krendall ( talk) 18:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I said it would not surprise me to see this section deleted and on Feb 1st is was, by an anonymous IP address (58.69.185.42) that seemingly has not made any other revisions to Wikipedia nor made any attempt to explain this deletion. The section has been restored and will continue to be restored every time it is censored by the sock puppets of homophobic idiots this happens.
Lindsay40k (
talk) 03:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
LOL! is there a source that Zangief is gay? I don't think so! He is such a monster of a fighter, he can't be gay although he doesn't like beautiful young girls. I would believe more that Vega is gay. 83.64.76.55 ( talk) 22:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
On 29/05/2008 user Johnny2X4 unilaterally censored the section on Zangief's sexuality without making any attempt to argue the case for doing so.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: every time a homophobic bigot user attempts to censor have this article overlook the proven fact that there is a debate on Zangief's sexuality, it gets restored.
The original Japanese dialogue frankly made Zangief's homosexuality abundantly clear - it's only because of Capcom's cowardly capitulation to the LGBT-phobic consensus in the videogames industry in censoring this during translation is there even any doubt. If anybody has a problem with this, then that's their problem and no reason for them to start an edit war. Lindsay40k ( talk) 21:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
On 03/07/2008 user Johnny2X4 once again unilaterally censored the section on Zangief's sexuality without making any contribution to this talk page. Having thus fired the opening shots of an edit war, he also threatened to have me banned from Wikipedia.
Repeated undiscussed content reversing is in clear breach of Wikipedia rules. If this user does not make any attempt to reach a consensus here their edits will be removed and an edit war reported.
That, said this user did leave a message on my personal talk page - which is not where disputes about articles are supposed to be raised:
the only reason why that paragraph was removed has to do because its unsourced fan-speculation, based on a few quotes that's likely being mistranslated or taken out-of-context, that's not even acknowledged by the creators of the games. The character's sexuality is a never mentioned or even addressed in the games to begin with
An additional edited source has been added to the article, the article on LGBT characters mentions this issue, the quotes are there to see in the game and can be run through any number of babelfish that are unlikely to have any vested interest in mistranslating quotes ot sound homosexual, and it also mentions that Capcom have publicly confirmed the existence of LGBT characters in Street Fighter games. Lindsay40k ( talk) 12:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
He's definatelly not a homosexual. Simply, his country of origin USSR (Eastern Europe in particular) didn't allow homosexuals to express themselves. They'd immediately be sent to jail or beaten by the police. Being a homosexual in Eastern. E wasn't considered to be a healthy thing- both mentally and sexually so stop arguing about him being a homo. (
Verbatimdat (
talk) 16:44, 29 July 2010 (UTC))
So wait, Zangief flies in the air and pile drives people, he wrestles bears. He has a name that's not producible in Cyrillic which is the alphabet of Russia and basically the USSR and suddenly you're telling me the developers did a bunch of research on how homosexuality is handled in that region in the 90s? Klichka ( talk) 07:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Who cares, the fact is that no one knows for sure. Let this ridiculous, almost-10-year-old comment thread that will never produce anything useful die peacefully, please. Thanks, TheStickMan [✆Talk] 14:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't care if Zangief is gay or not and I'm not gonna change the article, but I can't believe no one cited the final credits of Street Fighter II Super Turbo where Zangief is seen posing in the mirror with a picture of Vega pinned to the frame. Have you people even played the game? Just search for "super street fighter 2 turbo credits" and pick any link... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.177.40.8 ( talk) 17:12, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Metal Zangief sounds like a homage to Colossus from the X-men if you ask me, especially as it appears in Marvel vs Capcom. Invunerable metal plated Russian muscle men aren't that common! Is this worth mentioning? Coyote-37 11:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Woah seems some people cannot grasp the ideal of a manly man being rather flaming. Jesus.
i like how he has a japanese name but no name in cyrilic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.9.223 ( talk) 18:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
This article now contains a section with information on the development of this character ad a number of independent sources, if somebody can take the time to add a list of in-game appearances by Zangief we should be well on our way to B-class. Lindsay40k ( talk) 00:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Charlie Nash is now canon. His name appears quite clearly on the dogtags handed to Guile in his SFIV intro movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.188.69 ( talk) 20:01, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Would it be worth mentioning in the article that his wrestling name was the "Red Cyclone"? Although I forget which game it was that specifically mentioned this. I know Wikipedia gets kinda anal about trivia information, but I'd consider it part of his actual biography because he was a former wrestler and having his actual moniker stated in his background might make sense. Sorry, that sentence kind of ran away from me.-- Dakmordian ( talk) 11:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Apparently according to the Tetris-wiki, there's a term called the zangi-move named after the big guy here...anyone else hear about that in a better context? Could be interesting to reference in there as some sort of legacy bit.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 15:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I edited the bio to include the heavy indication that Zangief is the winner of the Tournament in Street Fighter IV. Other endings do not despute this. 24.56.10.108 ( talk) 02:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ4eFPAGNKk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.122.80.110 ( talk) 16:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
The first two sources (which are, in fact, the same) do not seem to support the claims they are used for in the article. Fix or remove. 145.100.125.133 ( talk) 15:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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I've removed some of the Trivia-stuff, simply because it's unimportant stuff (e.g. little cameos, endings in non-canonical games, ...).
Also, somebody should write something about his rivalry with Mike Haggar. Thanks, 1stLtLombardi 18:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Incorporated the trivia section into the main article, creating separate Fictional Character Bio and Character Development sections to incorporate them. Also corrected minor errors on gameplay mechanics. Lindsay40k ( talk) 00:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know who it was that added "Great Man" to Zangief's ending but I'm adding the Gorbachev apearence for the Trivia section.
SSF2 ending -- DanHibiki 21:57, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
The part about homosexuality has been removed until someone can offer up any real documentation or real examples as the Vega-Baka example makes no sense. Vega being an idiot correlated to homosexuality how? It could just be he believes Vega to be stupid. user: CunningLinguist
Err, sorry about that, I didnt meant to remove the Japanese link, I just removed the homosexuality paragraph and didnt notice I was removing it as well. My fault. Feel free to add it and anything else you feel pertinent that I may have changed as well.-- CunningLinguist 07:53, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Please add some sort of documentation/backup to the homosexuality bit or else it will be removed soon. If so many people beleive this there should be SOME documentation online.- CunningLinguist 05:15, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
According to Tiamat's Street Fighter Plot Guide, which is based on official Capcom publications, Zangief is indeed gay. All of the evidence he references is Japanese, so I cannot find and translate evidence on my own, but he provides several examples. Apparently, it is stated explicitly in The Official Street Fighter 2 Fanbook. His win quote against Ryu in Zero 3 is "I don't like projectiles, but I like you personally...." His profile says he dislikes "young beautiful women". The Capcom Fighting Evolution ending could be taken as a joke, seeing as compilations are not canonical, and is presenting the exact opposite of what his persona is. -- User:El Cid 07:45, 1 May 2003
Regardless whether or not he is gay, he doesn't like beautiful women, period. So the Capcom fighting ending is utterly wrong. The proof I had to support this is in the american version of Street Fighter Eternal. Though, I haven't read the book myself, I emailed Tiamat's and he said they included that info in the translated version. So we can throw out the ending in the latest game. Besides, the ending is also drawn by Udon, so most likely, they goofed up.
If you guys don't believe me, buy the sfe book and see for yourself.
Also, if any of you guys can read japanese, it would be best to find these source books that state he is gay and scan the page to show one of you guys to translate it and confirm it.
It's pretty clear to me that any claims that Zangief is gay are a stretch, at best. I think his membership in the LGBT Video Game Characters category is based on someone's political agenda to portray more video game characters as gay, rather than on any real evidence. 65.110.224.198 06:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Zangief is a closet gay, ok? It's not uncommon for gay stars to get into a fake straight relationship so the all the rumors and stress related to them will stop.
Zangief gay? lol. that's too funny. Well technically muzhelozhstvo (Men lying with men) was ruled as illegal in 1933 by Stalin in the Soviet Union. But these laws have likely been lifted long ago. Three cheers for the queer cossack.-- 207.225.65.89 06:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
I think that it should be mentioned that he is gay at least in the japanese continuity, since the japanese book "All About Capcom" and the older "Official Street Fighter 2 fanbook" says he is and he says "I don't like projectiles, but I like you personally...." in the japanese version of Street Fighter Alpha 3. Caesarcub 18:56, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
....well, okay. From what Saiki TOLD me (I'm researching), Zangief IS
gay. Makes me look at his SF2 ending at quite a new light, now. "You dance very well, Mr. Ex-President." And one of his CvS2 win quotes is "My body is perfect! I should be in a magazine!" And there's also him prancing around in a succubus body without any emotional turmoil impact in Lilith's Marvel VS Capcom ending... Oo I'm not sure if that proves things there, but Saiki said that he's gay. Actually, the Japanese stereotype for a gay man is a big hairy scantily clad (usually in something like a thong) man, often with a mustache. Well, Zangief fits most of the bill, sans the 'stache (which I guess would be what Eagle's there for). On a side note, although the "dislikes young women" thing was added to his bio only recently (come SFZ3), Zangief's SUPPOSEDLY been officially gay ever since he was first designed. HOWEVER, other people who can read Japanese have been kind enough to try to get and dig through official sources so far, and so far have been unable to find the official statement that states Zangief is gay. So the newest stance the plot guide must take now is that there is some evidence, and one of the guide's most trusted people said he got it from official sources that Zangief was gay, BUT we have yet to be able to dig up the source now and that guy kinda... dissappeared off the face of the internet. More CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence is things like Zangief's special intro with Eagle (which MIGHT be a joke on how both men are gay, although it could also just be a simple display of how they both have whirling moves) and one of Zangief's win quotes to Ryu in Street Fighter Zero 3 (yea, the Japanese version has character to character win quotes that Capcom of USA didn't bother to translate, though I'm sure they would have cut this one out, anyways). "I don't like projectiles, but I like you personally...." I've been told that SFZ3 quotes like this one imply heavily that he's gay worded in ways where the implication is meant to be obvious (but of course could be lost in the translation when non-Japanese readers read it). The phrase is "Omae wa suki da!", which can be a phrase for someone confessing feelings for someone else. HOWEVER, as no official statement can be found despite our searching, right now all I can say is that it's POSSIBLE that Capcom meant to IMPLY a gayness POSSIBLY but not as obviously as they did with Eagle, until further information can be turned up otherwise.
Perhaps it's just meant to be an ambiguously gay-type joke, even.
Nowhere does it say that AAC or the SF2 Fanbook specifically says he's gay. Please don't make up facts. Danny Lilithborne 22:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm...After reading this, it may be possible that tiamat's info might be wrong. Correctly if I am wrong, but in Tiamat's faqs, he claims that he cannot read japanese, but has other ppl translated it for him. It is possible someone gave him bad info or that he made it up. I still have a hard time believing that Capcom USA owns the Street Fighter License, which he claims is true based on speculation from Akiman's site, Sota's former president Jerry, and the cover of the game saying capcom USA. It is possible that Akiman may have mistook the info wrong, which is why it was removed; I mean, it could be that Capcom granted Udon, a USA company, sole license to do all the sf art, which would make it hard for someone like Akiman-the creator of street fighter-to put professional art on his site. As for Jerry from SOTA, he thinks out loud a lot which claims that never happen or rubs off as arrogent. It just doesn't make sense that the president of high dreams, producers of the defunct capcom vs snk 2 toyline didn't hear of the license change, yet another toy maker has. Also, the Capcom usa ltd on the street fighter collection box could be an american compliation. I mean Capcom have been releasing collection games that are exclusive to america for the past few years. I also remember seein a USA ltd on the american version of Grand Trusimo. Doesn't mean Sony of America owns it. The biggest reason I don't believe this is true is because no other gamming magazine-online or offline ever mention this and they usually mention stuff like this, especially sites like joystiq.com It isn't uncommon to have rumors taken as fact online.
sorry, but l digress. Just that Tiamat might full of it. -- Doomzaber 08:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
It is worth including in the article a mention of the debate about Zangief's sexuality, and I have added a short section detailing the issue. Anonymously accusing those who believe he is homosexual of having a "political agenda" is not a strong argument for only mentioning the issue in the closet discussion; frankly, deleting all public mention of the issue smacks far more of a political agenda.
Gaming magazines have run articles about Zangief's sexuality, including joystiq [1] (article uploaded two years before the above posting claiming they have not - could you not be bothered to google 'Zangief + homosexual', Doomzaber?), gamecentral, gamespot [2], gaygamer [3], etc.
The fact that games websites attempting to sell advertising space to companies trying to sell products to a demographic of young males regard the sexuality of game characters as either unimportant or an excuse for some cheap homophobic jokes is not a reason to brush the issue under the carpet - it is in fact a reason to raise the issue.
So, the article now mentions that a debate exists about Zangief's sexuality, which is true and relevant to a fictional character biography; it cites evidence; it establishes a context of Capcom including LGBT characters in its games of the era in which Zangief debuted (admittedly this was because their US arm considered it to be more acceptable to commit aggravated assault against a male-to-female transsexual than a biological female...); and finally it does not make absolute claims.
Still, it would not surprise me to see this section deleted anyway... Lindsay40k ( talk) 23:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Can't we just mention something along the lines of "Many sources list Zangief is gay, though official confirmation has yet to be found"? I mean, is it really such a big deal that no mention should be made until everyone is 100% certain that it's true? Krendall ( talk) 18:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
I said it would not surprise me to see this section deleted and on Feb 1st is was, by an anonymous IP address (58.69.185.42) that seemingly has not made any other revisions to Wikipedia nor made any attempt to explain this deletion. The section has been restored and will continue to be restored every time it is censored by the sock puppets of homophobic idiots this happens.
Lindsay40k (
talk) 03:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
LOL! is there a source that Zangief is gay? I don't think so! He is such a monster of a fighter, he can't be gay although he doesn't like beautiful young girls. I would believe more that Vega is gay. 83.64.76.55 ( talk) 22:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
On 29/05/2008 user Johnny2X4 unilaterally censored the section on Zangief's sexuality without making any attempt to argue the case for doing so.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: every time a homophobic bigot user attempts to censor have this article overlook the proven fact that there is a debate on Zangief's sexuality, it gets restored.
The original Japanese dialogue frankly made Zangief's homosexuality abundantly clear - it's only because of Capcom's cowardly capitulation to the LGBT-phobic consensus in the videogames industry in censoring this during translation is there even any doubt. If anybody has a problem with this, then that's their problem and no reason for them to start an edit war. Lindsay40k ( talk) 21:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
On 03/07/2008 user Johnny2X4 once again unilaterally censored the section on Zangief's sexuality without making any contribution to this talk page. Having thus fired the opening shots of an edit war, he also threatened to have me banned from Wikipedia.
Repeated undiscussed content reversing is in clear breach of Wikipedia rules. If this user does not make any attempt to reach a consensus here their edits will be removed and an edit war reported.
That, said this user did leave a message on my personal talk page - which is not where disputes about articles are supposed to be raised:
the only reason why that paragraph was removed has to do because its unsourced fan-speculation, based on a few quotes that's likely being mistranslated or taken out-of-context, that's not even acknowledged by the creators of the games. The character's sexuality is a never mentioned or even addressed in the games to begin with
An additional edited source has been added to the article, the article on LGBT characters mentions this issue, the quotes are there to see in the game and can be run through any number of babelfish that are unlikely to have any vested interest in mistranslating quotes ot sound homosexual, and it also mentions that Capcom have publicly confirmed the existence of LGBT characters in Street Fighter games. Lindsay40k ( talk) 12:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
He's definatelly not a homosexual. Simply, his country of origin USSR (Eastern Europe in particular) didn't allow homosexuals to express themselves. They'd immediately be sent to jail or beaten by the police. Being a homosexual in Eastern. E wasn't considered to be a healthy thing- both mentally and sexually so stop arguing about him being a homo. (
Verbatimdat (
talk) 16:44, 29 July 2010 (UTC))
So wait, Zangief flies in the air and pile drives people, he wrestles bears. He has a name that's not producible in Cyrillic which is the alphabet of Russia and basically the USSR and suddenly you're telling me the developers did a bunch of research on how homosexuality is handled in that region in the 90s? Klichka ( talk) 07:29, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Who cares, the fact is that no one knows for sure. Let this ridiculous, almost-10-year-old comment thread that will never produce anything useful die peacefully, please. Thanks, TheStickMan [✆Talk] 14:12, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't care if Zangief is gay or not and I'm not gonna change the article, but I can't believe no one cited the final credits of Street Fighter II Super Turbo where Zangief is seen posing in the mirror with a picture of Vega pinned to the frame. Have you people even played the game? Just search for "super street fighter 2 turbo credits" and pick any link... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.177.40.8 ( talk) 17:12, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Metal Zangief sounds like a homage to Colossus from the X-men if you ask me, especially as it appears in Marvel vs Capcom. Invunerable metal plated Russian muscle men aren't that common! Is this worth mentioning? Coyote-37 11:17, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Woah seems some people cannot grasp the ideal of a manly man being rather flaming. Jesus.
i like how he has a japanese name but no name in cyrilic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.9.223 ( talk) 18:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
This article now contains a section with information on the development of this character ad a number of independent sources, if somebody can take the time to add a list of in-game appearances by Zangief we should be well on our way to B-class. Lindsay40k ( talk) 00:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Charlie Nash is now canon. His name appears quite clearly on the dogtags handed to Guile in his SFIV intro movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.188.69 ( talk) 20:01, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Would it be worth mentioning in the article that his wrestling name was the "Red Cyclone"? Although I forget which game it was that specifically mentioned this. I know Wikipedia gets kinda anal about trivia information, but I'd consider it part of his actual biography because he was a former wrestler and having his actual moniker stated in his background might make sense. Sorry, that sentence kind of ran away from me.-- Dakmordian ( talk) 11:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Apparently according to the Tetris-wiki, there's a term called the zangi-move named after the big guy here...anyone else hear about that in a better context? Could be interesting to reference in there as some sort of legacy bit.-- Kung Fu Man ( talk) 15:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I edited the bio to include the heavy indication that Zangief is the winner of the Tournament in Street Fighter IV. Other endings do not despute this. 24.56.10.108 ( talk) 02:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ4eFPAGNKk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.122.80.110 ( talk) 16:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
The first two sources (which are, in fact, the same) do not seem to support the claims they are used for in the article. Fix or remove. 145.100.125.133 ( talk) 15:07, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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