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Dian Nikolow, this article is about things called Zangezur. It's not about every phrase that contains Zangezur. Zangezur Copper and Molybdenum Combine cannot be under this article, and neither does "Zangezur Corridor" (even if it was not a WP:OR speculation currently nominated for deletion). Generally, if you think the words after the disambiguate word can be in ()s like Zangezur (film), Zangezur (Football club) etc, then they can be in disambig list with the relevant articles accordingly named Zangezur (film), Zangezur (Football club) etc. The items of the list should answer the questions "which Zangezur?" rather than "which part of Zangezur" or "what's in Zangezur" or "whereabouts in Zangezur". More explained here: /info/en/?search=Help:Disambiguation And may I advise a general rule that would prevent others reverting your reverts and the start of edit warring? Do not revert somebody's revert (unless you see open vandalism) but rather discuss on Talk page, like I am doing now, if you disagree with another user's edit and/or it's explanation. Regards, --Armatura ( talk) 19:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Louisville Zoo is not included at Zoo (disambiguation) because people outside Louisville would not readily identify it as the "Zoo", and including all zoos in the world in the disambiguation page is impractical (though List of zoos is listed in the "See also" section
Many thanks, Benmite, for providing the second neutral opinion for the dispute. I am very happy with your conclusion and deleted the clearly redundant bits accordingly. OK with not needing a ref on disambig page, but still would like to see a good referenced argument about current Syunik Province being called Zangezur (it's not clear even who's calling that place like that), as per WP:VERIFIABILITY. Regards. --Armatura ( talk) 16:45, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! I am involved with none of the editors nor pages involved. I am completely new to disambiguation discussions. Disambiguations guidelines are guidelines, not policy, so if we disagree with the hardset definition of the guidelines, as
Armatura does, we can look at
Ignore All Rules. So let's look at the guidelines. Are any of the disputed additions known just as the "Zangezur"? Could they reasonably be confused and need to be added? We call the Rocky Mountains the "Rockies" really frequently, it's known as that, thus meriting inclusion despite
WP:PARTIAL. However, for this case, I do not see widespread use of "The Zangezurs" for the mountains. I would have to agree with Armatura in this case. The "Others" section could be removed entirely. I think the guideline on PARTIAL definitely applies here. I don't know enough about Armenia/Azerbaijan to say that the Syunik Province link deserves to stay in or out, but since this is less of an egregious policy violation, until it can be proved we should leave it in per
WP:IAR of
WP:V. I believe that due to the contention, it may be best to leave it in until proven otherwise since it is in the Syunik Province article. I hope this helped, but if you disagree it may be best to seek an RFC. I would also appreciate it if both editors remembered to solely focus on the dispute, and to sign posts with 4 tildes (~~~~ ).
Sennecaster (
What now?)
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Many thanks, Sennecaster. Agree. Syunik province can stay but just needs a reliable source, as anything else in Wikipedia. Regards. --Armatura ( talk) 14:16, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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Dian Nikolow, this article is about things called Zangezur. It's not about every phrase that contains Zangezur. Zangezur Copper and Molybdenum Combine cannot be under this article, and neither does "Zangezur Corridor" (even if it was not a WP:OR speculation currently nominated for deletion). Generally, if you think the words after the disambiguate word can be in ()s like Zangezur (film), Zangezur (Football club) etc, then they can be in disambig list with the relevant articles accordingly named Zangezur (film), Zangezur (Football club) etc. The items of the list should answer the questions "which Zangezur?" rather than "which part of Zangezur" or "what's in Zangezur" or "whereabouts in Zangezur". More explained here: /info/en/?search=Help:Disambiguation And may I advise a general rule that would prevent others reverting your reverts and the start of edit warring? Do not revert somebody's revert (unless you see open vandalism) but rather discuss on Talk page, like I am doing now, if you disagree with another user's edit and/or it's explanation. Regards, --Armatura ( talk) 19:46, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Louisville Zoo is not included at Zoo (disambiguation) because people outside Louisville would not readily identify it as the "Zoo", and including all zoos in the world in the disambiguation page is impractical (though List of zoos is listed in the "See also" section
Many thanks, Benmite, for providing the second neutral opinion for the dispute. I am very happy with your conclusion and deleted the clearly redundant bits accordingly. OK with not needing a ref on disambig page, but still would like to see a good referenced argument about current Syunik Province being called Zangezur (it's not clear even who's calling that place like that), as per WP:VERIFIABILITY. Regards. --Armatura ( talk) 16:45, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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Hello! I am involved with none of the editors nor pages involved. I am completely new to disambiguation discussions. Disambiguations guidelines are guidelines, not policy, so if we disagree with the hardset definition of the guidelines, as
Armatura does, we can look at
Ignore All Rules. So let's look at the guidelines. Are any of the disputed additions known just as the "Zangezur"? Could they reasonably be confused and need to be added? We call the Rocky Mountains the "Rockies" really frequently, it's known as that, thus meriting inclusion despite
WP:PARTIAL. However, for this case, I do not see widespread use of "The Zangezurs" for the mountains. I would have to agree with Armatura in this case. The "Others" section could be removed entirely. I think the guideline on PARTIAL definitely applies here. I don't know enough about Armenia/Azerbaijan to say that the Syunik Province link deserves to stay in or out, but since this is less of an egregious policy violation, until it can be proved we should leave it in per
WP:IAR of
WP:V. I believe that due to the contention, it may be best to leave it in until proven otherwise since it is in the Syunik Province article. I hope this helped, but if you disagree it may be best to seek an RFC. I would also appreciate it if both editors remembered to solely focus on the dispute, and to sign posts with 4 tildes (~~~~ ).
Sennecaster (
What now?)
12:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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Many thanks, Sennecaster. Agree. Syunik province can stay but just needs a reliable source, as anything else in Wikipedia. Regards. --Armatura ( talk) 14:16, 7 June 2021 (UTC)