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Merged with Yvonne Claire Rudellat - this is the better article (and has many links to it) and the page Yvonne Claire Rudellat should be deleted. KizzyB ( talk) 15:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Having performed the history merge, as requested, I notice that the surname in the infobox and on the web site referred to in the external links section has a surname of Rudellat while the title of the article and lead has Rudelatt. Keith D ( talk) 23:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I have included a paragraph on the name problem and requested the article be renamed. Exbrum ( talk) 16:22, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
According to Stella King, Rudellat was awarded the MBE, honorary because she was French. According to the Special Forces Roll of Honour website http://www.specialforcesroh.com/showthread.php?4138-Rudellat-Yvonne-Claire&highlight=ruddelat she was also awarded the Croix de Guerre. However, I have been unable to find any corroboration of this on lists of recipients of the decoration. Can anyone help here? Exbrum ( talk) 16:34, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Editor user:FDW777 has pointed out that the citation for the Croix de Guerre is dubious: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Archive 153#specialforcesroh.com. I have therefore removed the mention of the Croix de Guerre. Exbrum ( talk) 14:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello, @ FDW777:. Sorry for misquoting you. I would still not like to quote an "unreliable" source for something as important as a military decoration. I also find it significant that her biographer, Stella King, does not mention it. Perhaps someone else will find something and reinstate it. Exbrum ( talk) 22:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
The statement on Jacqueline’s personal file at SOE [1] that she was personally involved in blowing up Chaigny power station is incorrect. This was mooted but the idea was abandoned and the power station was subsequently bombed by the RAF. [2] I have therefore deleted this from the article. There are other errors in the personal file: for example her areas of operation are given as the Cher and Ain départments. The latter is presumably a misspelling of Aisne, which is north of Paris; she in fact worked in the Indre et Loire and Loir et Cher départments, both of which are south-west of Paris. Exbrum ( talk) 11:14, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
I would love to "improve" the article, but confess to not understanding the problem. I have looked up Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources but am still none the wiser. Could user:PoliceSheep99, who inserted the tag, please help me by being specific as to which sources are objectionable? Exbrum ( talk) 19:23, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. You had me worried that I was doing it all wrong! Exbrum ( talk) 09:15, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Smallchief:. Hi there. You deleted my edit that there were 20,000 deaths a month on the ground that you did not believe the source cited and in your opinion it was an exaggeration. Please see Bergen-Belsen concentration camp#Treatment of prisoners and deaths in the camp which states (with a different citation to mine) that the number in March 1945 was "at least 18,168". Given that 20,000 is clearly a round number I do not find it objectionable, so I have reinstated it, making it clearer that this was the March figure, particularly relevant as that was when Jacqueline got there. Exbrum ( talk) 21:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
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Merged with Yvonne Claire Rudellat - this is the better article (and has many links to it) and the page Yvonne Claire Rudellat should be deleted. KizzyB ( talk) 15:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Having performed the history merge, as requested, I notice that the surname in the infobox and on the web site referred to in the external links section has a surname of Rudellat while the title of the article and lead has Rudelatt. Keith D ( talk) 23:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I have included a paragraph on the name problem and requested the article be renamed. Exbrum ( talk) 16:22, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
According to Stella King, Rudellat was awarded the MBE, honorary because she was French. According to the Special Forces Roll of Honour website http://www.specialforcesroh.com/showthread.php?4138-Rudellat-Yvonne-Claire&highlight=ruddelat she was also awarded the Croix de Guerre. However, I have been unable to find any corroboration of this on lists of recipients of the decoration. Can anyone help here? Exbrum ( talk) 16:34, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
Editor user:FDW777 has pointed out that the citation for the Croix de Guerre is dubious: see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Archive 153#specialforcesroh.com. I have therefore removed the mention of the Croix de Guerre. Exbrum ( talk) 14:18, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello, @ FDW777:. Sorry for misquoting you. I would still not like to quote an "unreliable" source for something as important as a military decoration. I also find it significant that her biographer, Stella King, does not mention it. Perhaps someone else will find something and reinstate it. Exbrum ( talk) 22:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
The statement on Jacqueline’s personal file at SOE [1] that she was personally involved in blowing up Chaigny power station is incorrect. This was mooted but the idea was abandoned and the power station was subsequently bombed by the RAF. [2] I have therefore deleted this from the article. There are other errors in the personal file: for example her areas of operation are given as the Cher and Ain départments. The latter is presumably a misspelling of Aisne, which is north of Paris; she in fact worked in the Indre et Loire and Loir et Cher départments, both of which are south-west of Paris. Exbrum ( talk) 11:14, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
I would love to "improve" the article, but confess to not understanding the problem. I have looked up Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources but am still none the wiser. Could user:PoliceSheep99, who inserted the tag, please help me by being specific as to which sources are objectionable? Exbrum ( talk) 19:23, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. You had me worried that I was doing it all wrong! Exbrum ( talk) 09:15, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
@ Smallchief:. Hi there. You deleted my edit that there were 20,000 deaths a month on the ground that you did not believe the source cited and in your opinion it was an exaggeration. Please see Bergen-Belsen concentration camp#Treatment of prisoners and deaths in the camp which states (with a different citation to mine) that the number in March 1945 was "at least 18,168". Given that 20,000 is clearly a round number I do not find it objectionable, so I have reinstated it, making it clearer that this was the March figure, particularly relevant as that was when Jacqueline got there. Exbrum ( talk) 21:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC)