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I am of the opinion that the pooping log of Christmas does not belong in the same article with the traditional YULE LOG, other than as a SEE ALSO. The yule log is about holiday logs burned at Christmas time (Yule tide) OR logs having the NAME yule log. Other "logs" do not belong in this article except as referenced "see also". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.47.117.219 ( talk) 21:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Even the bonfires of ancient times survived in the tradition of the Yule log, perhaps the most universal of all Christmas symbols. Can the author of this sentence please provide some evidence that the Yule log is universally recognized as a Christmas symbol--both to Christians and non-Christians around the world? As a Westerner of Christian background, I think of Christmas trees, Santa Claus, and nativity scenes as major Christmas symbols in modern times. Not the Yule log. 71.113.154.193 23:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I miss a note about the similarity with the scandinavian word for christmas-Jul. This word is said to have led to the french word jolie and is mentioned when the bysantine court guard (varjags) celebrate christmas by dressing in furs and shouting Jul! Jul! Is there a a connection? (Regarding the non pagan influense mentioned by von Sydow it should be noted that the post-Weibullian tradition in Swedish history writing in practise says: if you have no written account on whateveer this is to be regarded as non-historic and should not be take inte account. Instead of just noting that no written period accounts exist and thus the feature is not proven, but a tradition. A big difference.) Sorry for my English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.218.70.178 ( talk) 11:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
The Yule Log, as a piece of tree set afire at midwinter to mark the soltice and the return of spring, is no different from the Christmas Tree. The former is Saxon, the latter German. In Lithuania, they used to go out into the forest and set a tree on fire. Shouldn't these articles AT LEAST be linked? Evertype 00:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Should this article merge with [Yule Log (TV program)]]? -- Blue387 09:31, 10 May 2005 (UTC) Yeah, they are sort of the same area of subject...
I don't think merger is a good idea, the subjects are similar, but not congruent. I have a question of my own. Susan Cooper, in her "The Dark is Rising" series of young adult fiction says the yule log is from the root of the tree. Does anyone know anything about that? Mannykrasner@yahoo.com
For what it's worth, I found this at snopes.com -- "It was unlucky to buy a yule log. Lucky ones were obtained from one's own land or from a neighbor's wood. Often a stump or a root (not necessarily a proper log at all), it was brought home on Christmas Eve and laid in the hearth." Krychek 22:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
The capitalization of "l" in "log" is random in this article, which is very distracting. Moncrief 21:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the only picture of Yule Logs found in this article are made of cake? Yummy, but not really appropriate. Also, what is meant by "The Yule Log, as a piece of tree set afire at midwinter to mark the soltice and the return of spring, is no different from the Christmas Tree." Hello? The difference is that one is decorated and the other is set on fire. Big difference, I think.
Recently a bunch of stuff from Llewellyn Worldwide have been added here. Much of this "information" is simply misinformation without any foot in actual sources or history. The company has an immensely overshadowing reputation for publishing all sorts of new age blather. Please do not add information here from these sources without first checking the sources Llewellyn gives (if they are given at all) and then citing those sources as the basis of the claim, then we can go from there, otherwise you are likely encountering someone's daydream being stated as fact. There's so much nonsense and confusion regarding this subject matter that we need to be particularly careful as to what is added here. I am always amazed how much information in these quarters gets passed off as "fact", ending up all over, and without a single foot in a historical source; this "Holly King" stuff is a prime example. :bloodofox: ( talk) 23:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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Croatians don't have a Yule Log. Yule log is mostly Serbian and Bulgarian tradition.
I thought that was the origin (the modern/Victorian tradition). Like this site says,
http://www.noelnoelnoel.com/trad/yulelog.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.104.190.237 ( talk) 19:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Recently @ 1990'sguy: has added, and readded numerous unreliable sources to the Yule log, many of them from evangelical Christian publishers and authors without any formal background in folklore studies. Examples include the following:
None of these are reliable sources and all of them should be removed immediately. :bloodofox: ( talk) 22:50, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
The poor sources repeatedly added are not an improvement to this article. Per WP:BRD, i have therefore restored the consensus version pending further discussion. Krakkos ( talk) 09:47, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus to exclude this material for being undue and for being based on unreliable sources.
Should this information and the corresponding sources be kept or deleted from the article? -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 17:58, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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I am of the opinion that the pooping log of Christmas does not belong in the same article with the traditional YULE LOG, other than as a SEE ALSO. The yule log is about holiday logs burned at Christmas time (Yule tide) OR logs having the NAME yule log. Other "logs" do not belong in this article except as referenced "see also". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.47.117.219 ( talk) 21:51, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Even the bonfires of ancient times survived in the tradition of the Yule log, perhaps the most universal of all Christmas symbols. Can the author of this sentence please provide some evidence that the Yule log is universally recognized as a Christmas symbol--both to Christians and non-Christians around the world? As a Westerner of Christian background, I think of Christmas trees, Santa Claus, and nativity scenes as major Christmas symbols in modern times. Not the Yule log. 71.113.154.193 23:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I miss a note about the similarity with the scandinavian word for christmas-Jul. This word is said to have led to the french word jolie and is mentioned when the bysantine court guard (varjags) celebrate christmas by dressing in furs and shouting Jul! Jul! Is there a a connection? (Regarding the non pagan influense mentioned by von Sydow it should be noted that the post-Weibullian tradition in Swedish history writing in practise says: if you have no written account on whateveer this is to be regarded as non-historic and should not be take inte account. Instead of just noting that no written period accounts exist and thus the feature is not proven, but a tradition. A big difference.) Sorry for my English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.218.70.178 ( talk) 11:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
The Yule Log, as a piece of tree set afire at midwinter to mark the soltice and the return of spring, is no different from the Christmas Tree. The former is Saxon, the latter German. In Lithuania, they used to go out into the forest and set a tree on fire. Shouldn't these articles AT LEAST be linked? Evertype 00:41, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Should this article merge with [Yule Log (TV program)]]? -- Blue387 09:31, 10 May 2005 (UTC) Yeah, they are sort of the same area of subject...
I don't think merger is a good idea, the subjects are similar, but not congruent. I have a question of my own. Susan Cooper, in her "The Dark is Rising" series of young adult fiction says the yule log is from the root of the tree. Does anyone know anything about that? Mannykrasner@yahoo.com
For what it's worth, I found this at snopes.com -- "It was unlucky to buy a yule log. Lucky ones were obtained from one's own land or from a neighbor's wood. Often a stump or a root (not necessarily a proper log at all), it was brought home on Christmas Eve and laid in the hearth." Krychek 22:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
The capitalization of "l" in "log" is random in this article, which is very distracting. Moncrief 21:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the only picture of Yule Logs found in this article are made of cake? Yummy, but not really appropriate. Also, what is meant by "The Yule Log, as a piece of tree set afire at midwinter to mark the soltice and the return of spring, is no different from the Christmas Tree." Hello? The difference is that one is decorated and the other is set on fire. Big difference, I think.
Recently a bunch of stuff from Llewellyn Worldwide have been added here. Much of this "information" is simply misinformation without any foot in actual sources or history. The company has an immensely overshadowing reputation for publishing all sorts of new age blather. Please do not add information here from these sources without first checking the sources Llewellyn gives (if they are given at all) and then citing those sources as the basis of the claim, then we can go from there, otherwise you are likely encountering someone's daydream being stated as fact. There's so much nonsense and confusion regarding this subject matter that we need to be particularly careful as to what is added here. I am always amazed how much information in these quarters gets passed off as "fact", ending up all over, and without a single foot in a historical source; this "Holly King" stuff is a prime example. :bloodofox: ( talk) 23:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
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Croatians don't have a Yule Log. Yule log is mostly Serbian and Bulgarian tradition.
I thought that was the origin (the modern/Victorian tradition). Like this site says,
http://www.noelnoelnoel.com/trad/yulelog.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.104.190.237 ( talk) 19:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Recently @ 1990'sguy: has added, and readded numerous unreliable sources to the Yule log, many of them from evangelical Christian publishers and authors without any formal background in folklore studies. Examples include the following:
None of these are reliable sources and all of them should be removed immediately. :bloodofox: ( talk) 22:50, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
The poor sources repeatedly added are not an improvement to this article. Per WP:BRD, i have therefore restored the consensus version pending further discussion. Krakkos ( talk) 09:47, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
There is a clear consensus to exclude this material for being undue and for being based on unreliable sources.
Should this information and the corresponding sources be kept or deleted from the article? -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 17:58, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
"Notifications must be polite, neutrally worded with a neutral title, clear in presentation, and brief—the user can always find out more by clicking on the link to the discussion.And
"The following behaviors are regarded as characteristic of inappropriate notification (and may be seen as disruptive): ... Campaigning: Posting a notification of discussion that presents the topic in a non-neutral manner."– Deacon Vorbis ( carbon • videos) 19:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)