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Who is "Dunham"? There is no prior reference to Dunham; we can only assume he is Hamdi's defense lawyer. Clown 00:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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I asked for citations to substantiate the assertion that the prison riot was a prisoner uprising. This assertion is at odds with the accounts offered in the captive's Combatant Status Review Tribunals and Administrative Review Board hearings. They describe the captives being stripped, bound, and made to kneel in the prison's yard. They don't provide any testimony to back up the assertion of an uprising...
Cheers! Geo Swan 19:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
[1] This edit added the 'no inline ciations' tag, when in fact the article has plenty of inline citations. It also added the 'citation needed' tag to the line "According to the Charleston Post and Courier, Hamdi ran away from home and trained at a Taliban camp. They reported he only spent a few weeks at the camp, "where he quickly became disillusioned"" which is cited to http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/mar/15/hanahan_brig_next_guantanamo75104. The rest of the edits by Rms125a@hotmail.com are of similar poor quality. Dlabtot ( talk) 20:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
RESPONSE: Regarding "poor editing", the edits I made included:
Let me add that in addition to monitoring the massive POV on this article I did add citation or fact tags and inline banner because they were needed. If someone adds text they should source it. I don't believe other editors should have to source material added, often by non-registered users. That is ridiculous. And if the text is of any importance then tagging it to advise the editor(s) is the responsible thing to do. If no sourcing is provided after a reasonable period of time then the text should be deleted unless the deleting editor wishes to go to the trouble of finding the source(s) himself or herself. I had no intention of doing all that work for other editors.
The version by Dlabtot contains unsourced and OR text ("[Mr. Hamdi actually met his lawyers for the first time in February 2004. After that initial meeting, Hamdi was allowed to have confidential discussions with his attorneys without military observers or video or audio taping in a room at the Navy Brig in Charleston, South Carolina.] ... Hamdi's father petitioned a federal court for Hamdi's rights to know the crime(s) he is accused of, and to receive a fair trial before imprisonment") and the entire following sections have no reflinks at all: U.S. Supreme Court decision, Legal significance and Release (see diff here and diff here).
Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 21:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
was not sourced, but the preceding paragraph was. When using such emotive terminology as "disillusioned" I am of the camp that believes better safe than sorry. In retrospect I could have simply moved the immediately previous reflink (which was from the same source, The Charleston Post and Courier) to cover that entire section but I didn't even check the prior reflink as I felt whoever made the edit should ensure that text is properly sourced. That isn't always my reaction, notwithstanding anything I wrote above as I do plenty of research, but in this case as a lot of text, post-lede, was not properly sourced in my opinion (hence the inline banner), I washed my hands of it. Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 22:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)"According to the Charleston Post and Courier, Hamdi ran away from home and trained at a Taliban camp. They reported he only spent a few weeks at the camp, "where he quickly became disillusioned"
First things first -- no response to the "disillusioned" issue which you raised and to which I responded above?
The article suggests towards the beginning that Hamdi was released in September 2004. Then towards the end it says he was released in October 2004. So this inconsistency needs to be corrected. 68.177.151.17 ( talk) 19:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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Who is "Dunham"? There is no prior reference to Dunham; we can only assume he is Hamdi's defense lawyer. Clown 00:59, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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I asked for citations to substantiate the assertion that the prison riot was a prisoner uprising. This assertion is at odds with the accounts offered in the captive's Combatant Status Review Tribunals and Administrative Review Board hearings. They describe the captives being stripped, bound, and made to kneel in the prison's yard. They don't provide any testimony to back up the assertion of an uprising...
Cheers! Geo Swan 19:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
[1] This edit added the 'no inline ciations' tag, when in fact the article has plenty of inline citations. It also added the 'citation needed' tag to the line "According to the Charleston Post and Courier, Hamdi ran away from home and trained at a Taliban camp. They reported he only spent a few weeks at the camp, "where he quickly became disillusioned"" which is cited to http://www.charleston.net/news/2009/mar/15/hanahan_brig_next_guantanamo75104. The rest of the edits by Rms125a@hotmail.com are of similar poor quality. Dlabtot ( talk) 20:35, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
RESPONSE: Regarding "poor editing", the edits I made included:
Let me add that in addition to monitoring the massive POV on this article I did add citation or fact tags and inline banner because they were needed. If someone adds text they should source it. I don't believe other editors should have to source material added, often by non-registered users. That is ridiculous. And if the text is of any importance then tagging it to advise the editor(s) is the responsible thing to do. If no sourcing is provided after a reasonable period of time then the text should be deleted unless the deleting editor wishes to go to the trouble of finding the source(s) himself or herself. I had no intention of doing all that work for other editors.
The version by Dlabtot contains unsourced and OR text ("[Mr. Hamdi actually met his lawyers for the first time in February 2004. After that initial meeting, Hamdi was allowed to have confidential discussions with his attorneys without military observers or video or audio taping in a room at the Navy Brig in Charleston, South Carolina.] ... Hamdi's father petitioned a federal court for Hamdi's rights to know the crime(s) he is accused of, and to receive a fair trial before imprisonment") and the entire following sections have no reflinks at all: U.S. Supreme Court decision, Legal significance and Release (see diff here and diff here).
Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 21:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
was not sourced, but the preceding paragraph was. When using such emotive terminology as "disillusioned" I am of the camp that believes better safe than sorry. In retrospect I could have simply moved the immediately previous reflink (which was from the same source, The Charleston Post and Courier) to cover that entire section but I didn't even check the prior reflink as I felt whoever made the edit should ensure that text is properly sourced. That isn't always my reaction, notwithstanding anything I wrote above as I do plenty of research, but in this case as a lot of text, post-lede, was not properly sourced in my opinion (hence the inline banner), I washed my hands of it. Rms125a@hotmail.com ( talk) 22:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)"According to the Charleston Post and Courier, Hamdi ran away from home and trained at a Taliban camp. They reported he only spent a few weeks at the camp, "where he quickly became disillusioned"
First things first -- no response to the "disillusioned" issue which you raised and to which I responded above?
The article suggests towards the beginning that Hamdi was released in September 2004. Then towards the end it says he was released in October 2004. So this inconsistency needs to be corrected. 68.177.151.17 ( talk) 19:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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