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I want to suggest that this piece of text - "Soon, the "Enterprise" would be joined by The Beast, who aligned himself with the faction after defeating Supreme for the XPW King of the Deathmatch Championship." - be removed from the article as no wrestler called The Beast ever joined the Enterprise or even worked for XPW. The XPW KOTD title history page even makes it clear that Supreme didn't lose the title to anyone called The Beast. Kid Banzai 18:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Messiah seems to be an important figure in XPW's history, but there's no professional wrestling page for him on Wikipedia. Is this an accidental oversight or intentional because he's a relatively minor figure otherwise? (Not withstanding other minor figures in other promotions like WWE's
Koko B. Ware have entries.)
BronzeWarrior
09:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as nobody has commented on this, I went ahead and created a page for William Welch b.k.a. The Messiah myself. BronzeWarrior 08:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Please explain yourself. As of last week, you seemed to understand and accept that you cannot have a section on this page devoted to your non-existant "book". But as you have attempted to add the content back, it appears you never agreed. Its time for you to explain yourself.
Am I the only person to think it odd that, having described the manner in which one of the owners of this promotion had his thumb cut off with a pair of shears, the author of the article goes on to discuss all the "finger pointing" that ensued? 81.153.63.66 23:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
== Re: Confusion ~~
The owner of the promotion didn't have a thumb cut off; one of its former wrestlers did. JB196 22:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
The excessive self-promotional content related to these web-pages has been removed. As the author has created a seperate page on Wikipedia to describe his "work", there is no need for excessive coverage of it on the XPW page. Simply link to the article from here.
There are now two pages that cover the book. XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF Of The Job and Bleeding Was Only HALF Of The Job. The second one is shortly to be up for AFD. The first one should not exist at all.
The same reasoning that is driving the page to AFD also will apply to the content here. I'm personally willing to tolerate something on this page under the following conditions:
The same reasoning that is leading to your article getting AFDed excludes you putting the same material on this page. 1) You can't add content about your intention to write a book 2) You don't deserve your own section. 3) No self-promotion. All that is required is one external link to your "work" and post-edits thats what you have.
So what are we to do about the inclusion of information on Bleeding Was Only Half the Job in this article? JB196 23:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
No, it wasn't against me. It was against a separate article. JB196 23:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
"The Notibility of your work has been discussed during the deletion process. You made your argument. You lost" - You don't seem to understand the context of an afD discussion very well; read my previous posts more carefully please.
It doesn't matter whether or not there is a book. Kevin Kleinrock has expounded upon his role and challenges running XPW in articles already printed. His comments about XPW are relevent to this article as he was the head of the company.
One of the fundamentals of Wikipedia which you don't seem to have a good grasp on is WP:AGF. If we were all out to harm Wikipedia then Wikipedia could not exist. I am simply trying to make sure that credit is achknowledged where credit is due. JB196 23:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I also believe the material is not appropriate for the page. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so any statements about what might happen in the future should immediately be removed. Who has endorsed what also strikes me as unencyclopedic. Given the clear consensus for deletion in the AfD, I think the most that's appropriate here is an external link. And even there, per WP:VAIN and WP:AUTO, the insertion of that link should come from some uninvolved subject matter expert. William Pietri 01:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
William, I'm not sure if you got a chance to check out my post at the bottom of this page so if not, just giving you a heads up that it is there.
I strongly disagree with the argument that anything "about what might happen in the future immediately be removed." Simply type in "forthcoming" in the search box on Wikipedia and 4,047 results pop up. There are tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of entries on Wikipedia about forthcoming projects. The Crystal Ball part of What Wikipedia is Not does not apply to works of art but rather to events (i.e. the 2008 presidential election) and history (see the "Weapons to be Used in World War III" example in What Wikipedia is Not). Just because it is forthcoming doesn't mean it shouldn't be included on Wikipedia.
"Given the clear consensus for deletion in the AfD, I think the most that's appropriate here is an external link."
For my response to this see my post below. Thanks. JB196 01:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
There were a large number of edits to the page during the edit war. Some of these were harmless (puncuation). Others were major changes to sections of the page. I reverted the whole page back to a neutral point. I'm sure that everyone can understand the reasons for this. The content/changes need to be discussed and seperated from the punctuation and capalitization changes made at the same time. 205.188.117.6 00:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
"The list of ECW wrestlers is a short list added for informational purposes to the page. I don't agree with removing it. You made a large number of small changes to paragraphs in the article which I don't agree with and need to be discussed in a reasonable way. There were too many changes to revert point by point."
They also used Crowbar, Candido, Simon Diamond, Joey Matthews, Raven, Chris Hamrick, also wrestled. That's almost 15 wrestlers. It is not practical to list every single former-ECW wrestler who wrestled for XPW during the Philly run.
You should not be making massive changes to the page in the middle of an edit war where you are personally involved.
This doesn't hold ground. I make constructive edits to this article everyday. Just because today happens to fall on a day where there is an afD going on which I am involved in doesn't mean that I should not make changes. JB196 00:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I also find it telling, sir, that you say "By putting this section back you have demonstrated bad faith and unacceptable behavior," yet you are the one who was blocked for vandalizing this very page, and the MOMENT that your block expired, you went right back to removing information from it. So who's really "[demonstrating] bad faith and unacceptable behavior?" JB196 16:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
JB you are a clown and a troll and if you are gonna keep putting those bullshit tags on the DVDVR article then one belongs on this article. Your shitty fuckign documentary that has been in the works FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT PART OF XPW HISTORY. I MOVE THIS GETS DELETED NOW.
KroneMeltzer
14:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I've requested a third opinion on this section. Hopefully that will add light and reduce heat. William Pietri 19:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
JB196 20:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC) I agree it wasn't quite appropriate, but I thought that was better than putting this up for an RfC, which seems like the next step. William Pietri 20:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- JB196 20:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the only real issue is whether the text that was deleted in an AfD should be added back to this article. The concerns from that AfD include failure to meet WP:WEB, WP:NOR, WP:NOT a crystal ball, WP:V, WP:VAIN, and WP:NN. The talk page concerns add WP:NOT a soapbox to that. One and a half of those only apply to full articles, but the rest are pertinent. As I mention on my talk page, Parsonsburg has less than 150 edits, and only added one now-removed sentence to a section where you were the first to mention your work. My opinion matches the third opinion below and the implied judgement of the AfD: the material does not belong in Wikipedia. William Pietri 23:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
"The concerns from that AfD include failure to meet WP:WEB, WP:NOR, WP:NOT a crystal ball, WP:V, WP:VAIN, and WP:NN. The talk page concerns add WP:NOT a soapbox to that." - Keep in mind that many of the "users" who expressed such "concerns" were Wikipedia vandals so really the list of "concerns" expressed is actually shorther than this six-part list. JB196 23:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
A request for a third opinion has been requested by someone involved with the article. Based on what I have read here, and because WP:NOT a crystal ball, I don't think the section should be included. Hope I helped. — Xyra e l / 20:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
There is an ongoing dispute with regard to this section. My views are:
Regarding the rivalry, I think you can only say it's one-sided if you find a reliable source that says that. If you only have a source that A sees B as a rival and no source that B sees A as a rival, then I think you should just say that A sees B as a rival and cite the source. Alternatively, if you have a source saying that B doesn't see A as a rival, I think that's also fairly called one-sided. William Pietri 17:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
As far as the "rivalry wording," just forget it. I am fully willing to use another word than "rivalry." Honestly, I think that is a minor problem in the long run as we have other issues to deal with. Just because you personally don't think I am a reputable source doesn't mean that is how Wikipedia policy sees the situation; what matters is if it was printed on a reputable site. What, are we going to dissect every article on Wikipedia and say that every article printed on CNN.com is a verifiable source unless its author was "Joe Blow"? That's ridiculous and I will not stand for Wikipedia to be demeaned in that manner.
I have decided, at least for the timebeing, to remove that entire sentence and just make the section about the HeatWave incident to hopefully avoid further disagreements.
JB196
17:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I was recently watching some of their old matches, and I was wondering why Kriss Klos kept on saying "Who the hell are you!?".
Calling XPW the premier hardcore wrestling promotion in the USA between 99 and 2002 is way wide of the mark. Do the initials ECW mean anything at all?
Um, sure ECW initials mean something, but they don't mean hardcore wrestling, and least not entirely. Does the name Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio Jr, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrerro, Chris Jericho.... I could go on and on and on mean anything to ya? ECW was more then hardcore wrestling, it was the innovator of everything we see on TV today. Not taking away anything from XPW, because it was great. But it was almost EXCLUSIVELY hardcore garbage wrestling. ECW wasn't.
Reverted this clearly bad faith edit. Considering he has been on an extremely heated debate with me for the better part of this week, reverting one of my edits is one of the worst ideas. I am 110% warranted in putting the link back in, and for no other reason than that this user's intentions are tremendously questionable given the circumstances. Respectfully, Booyaka... BooyakaDell 02:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Secondly, it says at Wikipedia: List of guidelines that "Unlike policies, guidelines are usually more flexible and more likely to have exceptions and could be changed and improved more easily." It is a guideline, not a rule.
Thirdly, your edit was in bad faith, and it is in NO way a violation of WP:AGF to say that it was in bad faith given your past history with me, my edits, and the accusation of my being a sockpuppet.
Fourthly, if my reversion was based on a person vendetta of any sort, I would not have said in my edit summary "Somebody else is welcome to remove it" (that somebody else does not include Curse of Fenric).
Fifthly, and no I am not going to waste my time looking for it because it could be anywhere on Wikipedia, there IS (or at least used to be as of about six months ago) some rule on Wikipedia that for subjectrs with multiple fan sites, a fan site is appropriate to be listed in the External links. If not as a source, it suffices as a fan site, as I say here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:81.155.178.248&diff=prev&oldid=94432922 . Perhaps an editor with more experience on Wikipedia than myself will know what I am talking about and be of help.
Fourthly, please do not edit war, especially with people you are in a heated debate with.
I am entirely justified in my reverting. You (anon Ip 81) aren't. BooyakaDell 14:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Secondly, it is also not in violation of Wikipedia policy or WP:3RR for me to continue reverting your edit, given that your motives have been proven to not coincide with what you are saying; therefore I will continue to revert you on sight.
Thirdly, unless you respond to the points made in this and my previous post, your edits will have gone from edit warring to vandalism at which point your actions will be reported, given that you are not warranted in doing what you are doing.
Fourthly, you have five other points to address, plus the three new points made in this edit. That makes eight. Plus you have to prove that the your reversion is even justified in the first place.
Do not edit war with users who you have a highly contentious history with. This will probably be my last edit on Wikipedia for anywhere from the next five hours to two days. Rest assured that when I return, I will continue to revert you on sight and seek a block on you if you continue to edit war BooyakaDell 15:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
See User talk:Lethaniol/BooyakaDell - I have removed reference - DO NOT PUT IT BACK AS OF YET Lethaniol 16:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
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There are apparently plans in place to run an XPW reunion show. More information can be found at PWInsider.com and the apparent official website is TheXPW.comShouldn't this be added to the XPW article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mushemush ( talk • contribs) 00:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
Yes it should be added. The protection should be lifted off the page... or, at least, put a few of us (including myself) solely in charge of editing/maintaining the XPW entry. - Parsonsburg
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I want to suggest that this piece of text - "Soon, the "Enterprise" would be joined by The Beast, who aligned himself with the faction after defeating Supreme for the XPW King of the Deathmatch Championship." - be removed from the article as no wrestler called The Beast ever joined the Enterprise or even worked for XPW. The XPW KOTD title history page even makes it clear that Supreme didn't lose the title to anyone called The Beast. Kid Banzai 18:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Messiah seems to be an important figure in XPW's history, but there's no professional wrestling page for him on Wikipedia. Is this an accidental oversight or intentional because he's a relatively minor figure otherwise? (Not withstanding other minor figures in other promotions like WWE's
Koko B. Ware have entries.)
BronzeWarrior
09:02, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
Seeing as nobody has commented on this, I went ahead and created a page for William Welch b.k.a. The Messiah myself. BronzeWarrior 08:03, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
Please explain yourself. As of last week, you seemed to understand and accept that you cannot have a section on this page devoted to your non-existant "book". But as you have attempted to add the content back, it appears you never agreed. Its time for you to explain yourself.
Am I the only person to think it odd that, having described the manner in which one of the owners of this promotion had his thumb cut off with a pair of shears, the author of the article goes on to discuss all the "finger pointing" that ensued? 81.153.63.66 23:03, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
== Re: Confusion ~~
The owner of the promotion didn't have a thumb cut off; one of its former wrestlers did. JB196 22:05, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
The excessive self-promotional content related to these web-pages has been removed. As the author has created a seperate page on Wikipedia to describe his "work", there is no need for excessive coverage of it on the XPW page. Simply link to the article from here.
There are now two pages that cover the book. XPW: Bleeding Was Only HALF Of The Job and Bleeding Was Only HALF Of The Job. The second one is shortly to be up for AFD. The first one should not exist at all.
The same reasoning that is driving the page to AFD also will apply to the content here. I'm personally willing to tolerate something on this page under the following conditions:
The same reasoning that is leading to your article getting AFDed excludes you putting the same material on this page. 1) You can't add content about your intention to write a book 2) You don't deserve your own section. 3) No self-promotion. All that is required is one external link to your "work" and post-edits thats what you have.
So what are we to do about the inclusion of information on Bleeding Was Only Half the Job in this article? JB196 23:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
No, it wasn't against me. It was against a separate article. JB196 23:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
"The Notibility of your work has been discussed during the deletion process. You made your argument. You lost" - You don't seem to understand the context of an afD discussion very well; read my previous posts more carefully please.
It doesn't matter whether or not there is a book. Kevin Kleinrock has expounded upon his role and challenges running XPW in articles already printed. His comments about XPW are relevent to this article as he was the head of the company.
One of the fundamentals of Wikipedia which you don't seem to have a good grasp on is WP:AGF. If we were all out to harm Wikipedia then Wikipedia could not exist. I am simply trying to make sure that credit is achknowledged where credit is due. JB196 23:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I also believe the material is not appropriate for the page. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so any statements about what might happen in the future should immediately be removed. Who has endorsed what also strikes me as unencyclopedic. Given the clear consensus for deletion in the AfD, I think the most that's appropriate here is an external link. And even there, per WP:VAIN and WP:AUTO, the insertion of that link should come from some uninvolved subject matter expert. William Pietri 01:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
William, I'm not sure if you got a chance to check out my post at the bottom of this page so if not, just giving you a heads up that it is there.
I strongly disagree with the argument that anything "about what might happen in the future immediately be removed." Simply type in "forthcoming" in the search box on Wikipedia and 4,047 results pop up. There are tons and tons and tons and tons and tons of entries on Wikipedia about forthcoming projects. The Crystal Ball part of What Wikipedia is Not does not apply to works of art but rather to events (i.e. the 2008 presidential election) and history (see the "Weapons to be Used in World War III" example in What Wikipedia is Not). Just because it is forthcoming doesn't mean it shouldn't be included on Wikipedia.
"Given the clear consensus for deletion in the AfD, I think the most that's appropriate here is an external link."
For my response to this see my post below. Thanks. JB196 01:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
There were a large number of edits to the page during the edit war. Some of these were harmless (puncuation). Others were major changes to sections of the page. I reverted the whole page back to a neutral point. I'm sure that everyone can understand the reasons for this. The content/changes need to be discussed and seperated from the punctuation and capalitization changes made at the same time. 205.188.117.6 00:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
"The list of ECW wrestlers is a short list added for informational purposes to the page. I don't agree with removing it. You made a large number of small changes to paragraphs in the article which I don't agree with and need to be discussed in a reasonable way. There were too many changes to revert point by point."
They also used Crowbar, Candido, Simon Diamond, Joey Matthews, Raven, Chris Hamrick, also wrestled. That's almost 15 wrestlers. It is not practical to list every single former-ECW wrestler who wrestled for XPW during the Philly run.
You should not be making massive changes to the page in the middle of an edit war where you are personally involved.
This doesn't hold ground. I make constructive edits to this article everyday. Just because today happens to fall on a day where there is an afD going on which I am involved in doesn't mean that I should not make changes. JB196 00:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I also find it telling, sir, that you say "By putting this section back you have demonstrated bad faith and unacceptable behavior," yet you are the one who was blocked for vandalizing this very page, and the MOMENT that your block expired, you went right back to removing information from it. So who's really "[demonstrating] bad faith and unacceptable behavior?" JB196 16:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
JB you are a clown and a troll and if you are gonna keep putting those bullshit tags on the DVDVR article then one belongs on this article. Your shitty fuckign documentary that has been in the works FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT PART OF XPW HISTORY. I MOVE THIS GETS DELETED NOW.
KroneMeltzer
14:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I've requested a third opinion on this section. Hopefully that will add light and reduce heat. William Pietri 19:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
JB196 20:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC) I agree it wasn't quite appropriate, but I thought that was better than putting this up for an RfC, which seems like the next step. William Pietri 20:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- JB196 20:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the only real issue is whether the text that was deleted in an AfD should be added back to this article. The concerns from that AfD include failure to meet WP:WEB, WP:NOR, WP:NOT a crystal ball, WP:V, WP:VAIN, and WP:NN. The talk page concerns add WP:NOT a soapbox to that. One and a half of those only apply to full articles, but the rest are pertinent. As I mention on my talk page, Parsonsburg has less than 150 edits, and only added one now-removed sentence to a section where you were the first to mention your work. My opinion matches the third opinion below and the implied judgement of the AfD: the material does not belong in Wikipedia. William Pietri 23:19, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
"The concerns from that AfD include failure to meet WP:WEB, WP:NOR, WP:NOT a crystal ball, WP:V, WP:VAIN, and WP:NN. The talk page concerns add WP:NOT a soapbox to that." - Keep in mind that many of the "users" who expressed such "concerns" were Wikipedia vandals so really the list of "concerns" expressed is actually shorther than this six-part list. JB196 23:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
A request for a third opinion has been requested by someone involved with the article. Based on what I have read here, and because WP:NOT a crystal ball, I don't think the section should be included. Hope I helped. — Xyra e l / 20:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
There is an ongoing dispute with regard to this section. My views are:
Regarding the rivalry, I think you can only say it's one-sided if you find a reliable source that says that. If you only have a source that A sees B as a rival and no source that B sees A as a rival, then I think you should just say that A sees B as a rival and cite the source. Alternatively, if you have a source saying that B doesn't see A as a rival, I think that's also fairly called one-sided. William Pietri 17:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
As far as the "rivalry wording," just forget it. I am fully willing to use another word than "rivalry." Honestly, I think that is a minor problem in the long run as we have other issues to deal with. Just because you personally don't think I am a reputable source doesn't mean that is how Wikipedia policy sees the situation; what matters is if it was printed on a reputable site. What, are we going to dissect every article on Wikipedia and say that every article printed on CNN.com is a verifiable source unless its author was "Joe Blow"? That's ridiculous and I will not stand for Wikipedia to be demeaned in that manner.
I have decided, at least for the timebeing, to remove that entire sentence and just make the section about the HeatWave incident to hopefully avoid further disagreements.
JB196
17:36, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I was recently watching some of their old matches, and I was wondering why Kriss Klos kept on saying "Who the hell are you!?".
Calling XPW the premier hardcore wrestling promotion in the USA between 99 and 2002 is way wide of the mark. Do the initials ECW mean anything at all?
Um, sure ECW initials mean something, but they don't mean hardcore wrestling, and least not entirely. Does the name Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio Jr, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrerro, Chris Jericho.... I could go on and on and on mean anything to ya? ECW was more then hardcore wrestling, it was the innovator of everything we see on TV today. Not taking away anything from XPW, because it was great. But it was almost EXCLUSIVELY hardcore garbage wrestling. ECW wasn't.
Reverted this clearly bad faith edit. Considering he has been on an extremely heated debate with me for the better part of this week, reverting one of my edits is one of the worst ideas. I am 110% warranted in putting the link back in, and for no other reason than that this user's intentions are tremendously questionable given the circumstances. Respectfully, Booyaka... BooyakaDell 02:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Secondly, it says at Wikipedia: List of guidelines that "Unlike policies, guidelines are usually more flexible and more likely to have exceptions and could be changed and improved more easily." It is a guideline, not a rule.
Thirdly, your edit was in bad faith, and it is in NO way a violation of WP:AGF to say that it was in bad faith given your past history with me, my edits, and the accusation of my being a sockpuppet.
Fourthly, if my reversion was based on a person vendetta of any sort, I would not have said in my edit summary "Somebody else is welcome to remove it" (that somebody else does not include Curse of Fenric).
Fifthly, and no I am not going to waste my time looking for it because it could be anywhere on Wikipedia, there IS (or at least used to be as of about six months ago) some rule on Wikipedia that for subjectrs with multiple fan sites, a fan site is appropriate to be listed in the External links. If not as a source, it suffices as a fan site, as I say here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:81.155.178.248&diff=prev&oldid=94432922 . Perhaps an editor with more experience on Wikipedia than myself will know what I am talking about and be of help.
Fourthly, please do not edit war, especially with people you are in a heated debate with.
I am entirely justified in my reverting. You (anon Ip 81) aren't. BooyakaDell 14:25, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Secondly, it is also not in violation of Wikipedia policy or WP:3RR for me to continue reverting your edit, given that your motives have been proven to not coincide with what you are saying; therefore I will continue to revert you on sight.
Thirdly, unless you respond to the points made in this and my previous post, your edits will have gone from edit warring to vandalism at which point your actions will be reported, given that you are not warranted in doing what you are doing.
Fourthly, you have five other points to address, plus the three new points made in this edit. That makes eight. Plus you have to prove that the your reversion is even justified in the first place.
Do not edit war with users who you have a highly contentious history with. This will probably be my last edit on Wikipedia for anywhere from the next five hours to two days. Rest assured that when I return, I will continue to revert you on sight and seek a block on you if you continue to edit war BooyakaDell 15:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
See User talk:Lethaniol/BooyakaDell - I have removed reference - DO NOT PUT IT BACK AS OF YET Lethaniol 16:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
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There are apparently plans in place to run an XPW reunion show. More information can be found at PWInsider.com and the apparent official website is TheXPW.comShouldn't this be added to the XPW article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mushemush ( talk • contribs) 00:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
Yes it should be added. The protection should be lifted off the page... or, at least, put a few of us (including myself) solely in charge of editing/maintaining the XPW entry. - Parsonsburg
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