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The wikipedia page for Bolaji Badejo puts him at 7'2". A vast difference from the 6'10" figure stated here. Both are un-cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.161.75.154 ( talk) 03:27, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
It is clear in the plot of Alien (and again mentioned in Aliens) that the Xenomorph species had a space ship. It was pictured in both the two movies 1979 and 1986. This article states that:
"Unlike many other extraterrestrial races in science fiction (such as the Daleks and Cybermen in Doctor Who, or the Klingons and Borg in Star Trek), the Aliens are not sapient tool-makers: They lack a technological civilization of any kind"
It is my understanding that this was, in fact an alien spaceship. The Wikipedia article on the 1979 movie states:
"They discover the signal comes from a derelict alien ship and enter it, losing communication with the Nostromo"
The whole premise of the first film was that 'Mother' wakes up the crew to investigate a ships signal.
The second film Aliens shows the small family with newt approaching the same ship from the original and this is what is going to 'make us rich'.
I suggest that someone consider removing the statement about a lack of technology, perhaps suggesting that aliens are instead not perceivable as being reliant on tools.
ArchStudos ( talk) 12:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
why is the front section about croissants ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D09:1580:9600:24CC:97D1:CF9D:8D11 ( talk) 01:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Under the Intelligence section it is stated that the Queen learned to call the lift after observing Ripley do so. The Queen did not call the lift. Ripley did. When she first gets to the lift while attempting to escape the Queen she presses both buttons, thus calling both lifts. After Ripley's escape it is shown the Queen observing the second lift, having already been called, descending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.69.184.59 ( talk) 05:06, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There's a consensus to move away from the current title, and additionally, a persuasive argument that it's the primary topic for the term "xenomorph". ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 22:07, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
– Per WP:NATURAL- the current title is very awkward and although there was a discussion a while back that concluded that Alien was the more commonly used name- I feel as that if it is a natural consequence of being the titular villains of the franchise, similar to the way Ghostface (identity) is oftentimes referred to as "the Killer" by characters of the films even though the proper title for them is Ghostface.
Having the page simply titled Xenomorph I feel would be much more natural even if the page itself refers to the species mostly as the Aliens. The existing page of Xenomorph could be moved to Xenomorph (disambiguation). H*adesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
The current name is absolutely stupid and an attempt to avoid a term deemed “in universe”. It’s a contrived title that absolutely no one is naturally navigating to GimliDotNet ( talk) 12:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
I don’t know people are googling xenomorph, but I wasn’t the one that used search engine results as an argument against calling the article xenomorph, when search engine results have fuck all to do with naming the article due to the way search engines optimise search results better than Wikipedia. GimliDotNet ( talk) 11:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I did not attack you, please withdraw that claim. The only person to make a personal attack here is you when you addressed me instead of my argument. I have not ignored your arguments, I have addressed them (search engine results cannot be used as a naming argument as they don’t go off the name). You took offence to that and accused me of being over emotional. That is attacking the person and not the argument. The fact you don’t like profanity is neither here nor there, that was not a personal attack. GimliDotNet ( talk) 14:10, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
I directly address your point. You claimed the thousands of page views (mainly from search engines and “unknown”) was evidence that xenomorph wasn’t a useful name. That’s not what that evidence shows. I’m done here though, as it’s clear you’re not reading what I’ve written GimliDotNet ( talk) 19:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
should be written as two words, thus: Linguafoeda acheronsis 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:146A:4BE3:750D:CFE7 ( talk) 15:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
I feel like this is a fan-name, and shouldn't be in the article. While yes, Xenomorph is kinda a fan-name as well, but it was referred to as one in Aliens! I've ONLY seen the term Predalien in things like the kill count, but not in shit like actual interviews. can this be changed? Babysharkboss2 was here!! 16:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
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The wikipedia page for Bolaji Badejo puts him at 7'2". A vast difference from the 6'10" figure stated here. Both are un-cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.161.75.154 ( talk) 03:27, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
It is clear in the plot of Alien (and again mentioned in Aliens) that the Xenomorph species had a space ship. It was pictured in both the two movies 1979 and 1986. This article states that:
"Unlike many other extraterrestrial races in science fiction (such as the Daleks and Cybermen in Doctor Who, or the Klingons and Borg in Star Trek), the Aliens are not sapient tool-makers: They lack a technological civilization of any kind"
It is my understanding that this was, in fact an alien spaceship. The Wikipedia article on the 1979 movie states:
"They discover the signal comes from a derelict alien ship and enter it, losing communication with the Nostromo"
The whole premise of the first film was that 'Mother' wakes up the crew to investigate a ships signal.
The second film Aliens shows the small family with newt approaching the same ship from the original and this is what is going to 'make us rich'.
I suggest that someone consider removing the statement about a lack of technology, perhaps suggesting that aliens are instead not perceivable as being reliant on tools.
ArchStudos ( talk) 12:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
why is the front section about croissants ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D09:1580:9600:24CC:97D1:CF9D:8D11 ( talk) 01:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Under the Intelligence section it is stated that the Queen learned to call the lift after observing Ripley do so. The Queen did not call the lift. Ripley did. When she first gets to the lift while attempting to escape the Queen she presses both buttons, thus calling both lifts. After Ripley's escape it is shown the Queen observing the second lift, having already been called, descending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.69.184.59 ( talk) 05:06, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. There's a consensus to move away from the current title, and additionally, a persuasive argument that it's the primary topic for the term "xenomorph". ( closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre ( talk) 22:07, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
– Per WP:NATURAL- the current title is very awkward and although there was a discussion a while back that concluded that Alien was the more commonly used name- I feel as that if it is a natural consequence of being the titular villains of the franchise, similar to the way Ghostface (identity) is oftentimes referred to as "the Killer" by characters of the films even though the proper title for them is Ghostface.
Having the page simply titled Xenomorph I feel would be much more natural even if the page itself refers to the species mostly as the Aliens. The existing page of Xenomorph could be moved to Xenomorph (disambiguation). H*adesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
The current name is absolutely stupid and an attempt to avoid a term deemed “in universe”. It’s a contrived title that absolutely no one is naturally navigating to GimliDotNet ( talk) 12:21, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
I don’t know people are googling xenomorph, but I wasn’t the one that used search engine results as an argument against calling the article xenomorph, when search engine results have fuck all to do with naming the article due to the way search engines optimise search results better than Wikipedia. GimliDotNet ( talk) 11:47, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I did not attack you, please withdraw that claim. The only person to make a personal attack here is you when you addressed me instead of my argument. I have not ignored your arguments, I have addressed them (search engine results cannot be used as a naming argument as they don’t go off the name). You took offence to that and accused me of being over emotional. That is attacking the person and not the argument. The fact you don’t like profanity is neither here nor there, that was not a personal attack. GimliDotNet ( talk) 14:10, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
I directly address your point. You claimed the thousands of page views (mainly from search engines and “unknown”) was evidence that xenomorph wasn’t a useful name. That’s not what that evidence shows. I’m done here though, as it’s clear you’re not reading what I’ve written GimliDotNet ( talk) 19:39, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
should be written as two words, thus: Linguafoeda acheronsis 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:146A:4BE3:750D:CFE7 ( talk) 15:50, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
I feel like this is a fan-name, and shouldn't be in the article. While yes, Xenomorph is kinda a fan-name as well, but it was referred to as one in Aliens! I've ONLY seen the term Predalien in things like the kill count, but not in shit like actual interviews. can this be changed? Babysharkboss2 was here!! 16:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)