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Oppose throughout wrestlemania it was called the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania and even announced by Howard Finkel "Welcome to the 25th Anniversary of Wrestlemania" Adster 95 17:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I have a question. Why in the divas battle royal table you put the brand if the brand can be reconocided buy the colour grey, blue and red?? -- 81.36.175.63 ( talk) 20:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that you don't understand me. I say that in top of the table, you say that the divas in blue are of SD, the divas in grey are in ECW and the divas in red are in RAW. I say that is ridiculous write in the table Brand, between Diva and Order of elimination, because we know the brand seeing the colour. -- 81.36.175.63 ( talk) 14:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I fully support this page. It is and was the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania who cares if it does not add up. Technically speaking the first WrestleMania was in celebration of everything WWE had accomplished at the time. This is the same as if people are married. When you have been married 25 years you don't say that this is your 24th anniversary lol you say it is your 25th. I say we all drop it and let it be. Glenn83e ( talk) 14:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
This is a notice to Mshake. I know that you believe that it is "officially" known as the 25th anniversary etc. The fact is, there's no press release that says that's the official title. Most RS primarily used XXV, such as the ones I linked to above. If you wish to keep edit warring, then please provide your justification on this page. We must obtain consensus before changing it, following the "bold, revert, discuss" format. I am restoring it to the previous version, but I will adhere to WP:1RR from this point on. Firestorm Talk 18:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
There used to be a page showing the history of who became Miss WrestleMania just like all of the title belts in the WWE both past and present as well as other title belts past and present from other professional wrestling compaines. Why is the Miss WrestleMania page deleated and redirected to WrestleMania XXV? Gibsonj338 ( talk) 03:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned in the article that May Young was the special guest timekeeper? my source is that they said that at The event.--JereMerr 21:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I saw the talk page discussion, and the change seems to be totally spurious and randomly enforced. Much like an episode of a TV show, the characters are named as they are in-show and then links are provided to the appropriate character page (in this situation, the wrestler). It's especially confusing when a in-ring name is used as the wikilnk with the real name as the display text. I get the feeling that edits made to wrestling articles talk WAY down to readers who may not know much about wrestling...often stepping outside what is generally considered good form for an article. If a reader wants to read past CM Punk landing the Go To Sleep on Edge for the championship...let them dig down further. Otherwise you're just flooding them with WAY too much info that they may not really care about. Such as full on descriptions of move names...followed by a wiki link to an article that basically repeats what's already printed in the parent. -- TRTX T / C 07:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
This project has 4140 articles in total. 186 of them are either FL, FA, or GA. Out of those 186 half are probably poorly written, badly sourced, etc and the project only has a handful of editors working on expanding them or fixing the already finished ones. The rest pop in for PPVs and to do small things. This article like many others is not being expanded. This article does not follow guidelines such as Jargon, Fiction, etc. The reason not all articles follow the correct format is alot don't like saying wrestling is fake so they don't follow it and trying to change that format will just result is a big argument which will get us no where because we someone trying to improve the article, users just whine. The descriptions are supposed to be cut down. But noone has done that. When they do, they either remove them entirely and keep a poorly worded sentence instead. So sometimes they are reverted, though I don't watch this page much so I can't give an instance. It is laziness which is causing things to not be correct. No one taking it under their own power to improve things to the agreed format. I would improve this article myself like I planned, but work is stopping me from doing that.-- Will C 13:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Do we really need this? None of the other battle royals at Wrestlemania have a table like this. Thebookofaustin3:16 ( talk) 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Beth Phoenix eliminated Maryse in the 25 Diva Battle Royal, not Santina Marella ! watch the match on dailymotion or youtube and see for yourself ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeakFreak24 ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
None of the promotional info I've seen on the event have used roman numerals. Therefore, I would suggest a name change to "WrestleMania 25" with WrestleMania XXV redirecting to it.-- Josh ( talk) 17:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be noted somewhere in the article? I mean, it was a pretty major event in the middle of the show. You know, where Steve Austin drank beer in-ring for 5 straight minutes, lol. You can't miss it :P If nothing is written, I think you could just lift the section from Steve Austin's wikipedia page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.47.74 ( talk) 14:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
This is something that was originally noted/discussed on the WM25 page when it first went up, and I think it should remain in some form. The "25th anniversary" of Wrestlmania took place on March 31, 2010, which is 25 years to the date after the first Wrestlemania on March 21, 1985.
Wrestlemania 25, which took place on April 5, 2009, is roughly twenty-FOUR years after the original Wrestlemania took place - roughly one week after the 24th anniversary.
While one can't argue against the fact that WWE did, in fact, use "the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania" in their marketing for Wrestlemania 25, that doesn't change the fact that the event took place a year before said anniversary.
Btw, for those of you out there that don't understand the math issue at hand: if you get married on June 1, 2000, when is your 10th wedding anniversary? If you said anything other than June 1, 2010, you're wrong. WWE was essentially passing off June 1, 2009 as the date in question because it made their poster look cooler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.89.0.18 ( talk) 21:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
this section is not neutral and uses language that is suspect. examples: Orton's 'twisted' visions of the future, and his shock at seeing the McMahon's with HHH, and Cena 'fittingly' being attacked by Edge and Bigshow, before Bigshow getting his 'just deserts'. what the hell? this whole section needs to be redone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 ( talk) 06:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I've heard rumours that the cameraman who squashed by Undertaker's suicide dive was Sim Snuka. Is this true? FlapjackStantz ( talk) 16:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
While that would be an interesting detail, there looks to be little coverage on the subject. It seems it may be just that, a rumor. It doesn't seem relevant enough to be in the article. Cstam716 ( talk) 02:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't part of the conversation 11 years ago when the topic of whether or not to title this event "25th Anniversary of WrestleMania" or "WrestleMania XXV" came up. At the time, it was decided to keep it as "XXV", because the roman numerals were more or less a standard. What I don't understand is why wasn't "WrestleMania 25" an option for a title back then. Today, looking back, it's silly to call this event "WrestleMania XXV" when no roman numerals were used at all during this PPV. If you look at how every WrestleMania is titled on WP, we only use roman numerals in the titles when they were used during the event itself. Like Mania III, IV, V, etc. Now in the case of events that didn't use roman numerals during the event, like Mania 31, 32, 33, etc. we don't use roman numerals in the titles. So why should Mania 25 be given the roman numeral treatment when it's no different than WrestleMania 2, 13, 21, 22, 23, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 and 36? Nowhere during the PPV are the letters XXV seen or shown anywhere. No graphics at all depict this. The only time I can recall seeing this event marketed as Mania XXV was a year earlier at Mania XXIV when they played the hype video announcing this show for the following year. WWE eventually changed all advertising, many months before Mania 25 took place, to remove the roman numeral graphics and rebrand the show as “WrestleMania: 25th Anniversary". The same thing happened with Mania 22. When they first showed the hype video a year earlier at Mania 21, the graphics showed "WrestleMania XXII". Eventually they changed the advertising and removed the roman numerals there too. And we list it as "WrestleMania 22" not "XXII". So, I ask again, why is Mania 25 getting special treatment compared to other similar Manias? I think it's time we rename this to the proper "WrestleMania 25" title. OldSkool01 ( talk) 06:27, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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Oppose throughout wrestlemania it was called the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania and even announced by Howard Finkel "Welcome to the 25th Anniversary of Wrestlemania" Adster 95 17:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I have a question. Why in the divas battle royal table you put the brand if the brand can be reconocided buy the colour grey, blue and red?? -- 81.36.175.63 ( talk) 20:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that you don't understand me. I say that in top of the table, you say that the divas in blue are of SD, the divas in grey are in ECW and the divas in red are in RAW. I say that is ridiculous write in the table Brand, between Diva and Order of elimination, because we know the brand seeing the colour. -- 81.36.175.63 ( talk) 14:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I fully support this page. It is and was the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania who cares if it does not add up. Technically speaking the first WrestleMania was in celebration of everything WWE had accomplished at the time. This is the same as if people are married. When you have been married 25 years you don't say that this is your 24th anniversary lol you say it is your 25th. I say we all drop it and let it be. Glenn83e ( talk) 14:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
This is a notice to Mshake. I know that you believe that it is "officially" known as the 25th anniversary etc. The fact is, there's no press release that says that's the official title. Most RS primarily used XXV, such as the ones I linked to above. If you wish to keep edit warring, then please provide your justification on this page. We must obtain consensus before changing it, following the "bold, revert, discuss" format. I am restoring it to the previous version, but I will adhere to WP:1RR from this point on. Firestorm Talk 18:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
There used to be a page showing the history of who became Miss WrestleMania just like all of the title belts in the WWE both past and present as well as other title belts past and present from other professional wrestling compaines. Why is the Miss WrestleMania page deleated and redirected to WrestleMania XXV? Gibsonj338 ( talk) 03:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned in the article that May Young was the special guest timekeeper? my source is that they said that at The event.--JereMerr 21:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
I saw the talk page discussion, and the change seems to be totally spurious and randomly enforced. Much like an episode of a TV show, the characters are named as they are in-show and then links are provided to the appropriate character page (in this situation, the wrestler). It's especially confusing when a in-ring name is used as the wikilnk with the real name as the display text. I get the feeling that edits made to wrestling articles talk WAY down to readers who may not know much about wrestling...often stepping outside what is generally considered good form for an article. If a reader wants to read past CM Punk landing the Go To Sleep on Edge for the championship...let them dig down further. Otherwise you're just flooding them with WAY too much info that they may not really care about. Such as full on descriptions of move names...followed by a wiki link to an article that basically repeats what's already printed in the parent. -- TRTX T / C 07:22, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
This project has 4140 articles in total. 186 of them are either FL, FA, or GA. Out of those 186 half are probably poorly written, badly sourced, etc and the project only has a handful of editors working on expanding them or fixing the already finished ones. The rest pop in for PPVs and to do small things. This article like many others is not being expanded. This article does not follow guidelines such as Jargon, Fiction, etc. The reason not all articles follow the correct format is alot don't like saying wrestling is fake so they don't follow it and trying to change that format will just result is a big argument which will get us no where because we someone trying to improve the article, users just whine. The descriptions are supposed to be cut down. But noone has done that. When they do, they either remove them entirely and keep a poorly worded sentence instead. So sometimes they are reverted, though I don't watch this page much so I can't give an instance. It is laziness which is causing things to not be correct. No one taking it under their own power to improve things to the agreed format. I would improve this article myself like I planned, but work is stopping me from doing that.-- Will C 13:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Do we really need this? None of the other battle royals at Wrestlemania have a table like this. Thebookofaustin3:16 ( talk) 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Beth Phoenix eliminated Maryse in the 25 Diva Battle Royal, not Santina Marella ! watch the match on dailymotion or youtube and see for yourself ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeakFreak24 ( talk • contribs) 19:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
None of the promotional info I've seen on the event have used roman numerals. Therefore, I would suggest a name change to "WrestleMania 25" with WrestleMania XXV redirecting to it.-- Josh ( talk) 17:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't this be noted somewhere in the article? I mean, it was a pretty major event in the middle of the show. You know, where Steve Austin drank beer in-ring for 5 straight minutes, lol. You can't miss it :P If nothing is written, I think you could just lift the section from Steve Austin's wikipedia page... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.205.47.74 ( talk) 14:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
This is something that was originally noted/discussed on the WM25 page when it first went up, and I think it should remain in some form. The "25th anniversary" of Wrestlmania took place on March 31, 2010, which is 25 years to the date after the first Wrestlemania on March 21, 1985.
Wrestlemania 25, which took place on April 5, 2009, is roughly twenty-FOUR years after the original Wrestlemania took place - roughly one week after the 24th anniversary.
While one can't argue against the fact that WWE did, in fact, use "the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania" in their marketing for Wrestlemania 25, that doesn't change the fact that the event took place a year before said anniversary.
Btw, for those of you out there that don't understand the math issue at hand: if you get married on June 1, 2000, when is your 10th wedding anniversary? If you said anything other than June 1, 2010, you're wrong. WWE was essentially passing off June 1, 2009 as the date in question because it made their poster look cooler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.89.0.18 ( talk) 21:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
this section is not neutral and uses language that is suspect. examples: Orton's 'twisted' visions of the future, and his shock at seeing the McMahon's with HHH, and Cena 'fittingly' being attacked by Edge and Bigshow, before Bigshow getting his 'just deserts'. what the hell? this whole section needs to be redone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.135.162 ( talk) 06:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I've heard rumours that the cameraman who squashed by Undertaker's suicide dive was Sim Snuka. Is this true? FlapjackStantz ( talk) 16:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
While that would be an interesting detail, there looks to be little coverage on the subject. It seems it may be just that, a rumor. It doesn't seem relevant enough to be in the article. Cstam716 ( talk) 02:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't part of the conversation 11 years ago when the topic of whether or not to title this event "25th Anniversary of WrestleMania" or "WrestleMania XXV" came up. At the time, it was decided to keep it as "XXV", because the roman numerals were more or less a standard. What I don't understand is why wasn't "WrestleMania 25" an option for a title back then. Today, looking back, it's silly to call this event "WrestleMania XXV" when no roman numerals were used at all during this PPV. If you look at how every WrestleMania is titled on WP, we only use roman numerals in the titles when they were used during the event itself. Like Mania III, IV, V, etc. Now in the case of events that didn't use roman numerals during the event, like Mania 31, 32, 33, etc. we don't use roman numerals in the titles. So why should Mania 25 be given the roman numeral treatment when it's no different than WrestleMania 2, 13, 21, 22, 23, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 and 36? Nowhere during the PPV are the letters XXV seen or shown anywhere. No graphics at all depict this. The only time I can recall seeing this event marketed as Mania XXV was a year earlier at Mania XXIV when they played the hype video announcing this show for the following year. WWE eventually changed all advertising, many months before Mania 25 took place, to remove the roman numeral graphics and rebrand the show as “WrestleMania: 25th Anniversary". The same thing happened with Mania 22. When they first showed the hype video a year earlier at Mania 21, the graphics showed "WrestleMania XXII". Eventually they changed the advertising and removed the roman numerals there too. And we list it as "WrestleMania 22" not "XXII". So, I ask again, why is Mania 25 getting special treatment compared to other similar Manias? I think it's time we rename this to the proper "WrestleMania 25" title. OldSkool01 ( talk) 06:27, 4 May 2020 (UTC)