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For those less familiar with WEs, there are several journals dedicated to their study, the most important of which are probably World Englishes and English Today.
Just to be clear, World Englishes are not "Inner Circle" varieties, e.g. Irish English and Australian English, neither are they International English (whatever that is, I suppose ETS designers know best) or English as a Lingua Franca. Trachys ( talk) 14:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
"New Englishes" should redirect here as WE is the preferred term. Trachys ( talk) 14:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I disagree. World Englishes are related to but unique from New Englishes. "World Englishes" runs the risk of confusion with "World English" or "World Standard English" and is an inaccurate term as it does not properly suggest the character of the language varieties in question. "World Englishes" is an umbrella term and goes so far to include the variations of the inner circle of L1 users whilst New Englishes are distinct to L2 users...Need I go on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rough for Radio 1 ( talk • contribs) 11:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
In The Global Spread of English you use dispersal in the titles but diaspora in the text. Unless there is some deep reason for this then it would be better to adopt a consistent term (preferably the same as Kachru). Francis Bond ( talk) 01:43, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Gorlach's model needs some discussion in the text (or to be deleted). As it is, it is only understood by reading the soon-to-be-deleted-and-hard-to-read-anyway illustration. Francis Bond ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC).
This is at minimum POV and at least partly inaccurate. A discussion of rivals to English needs to include Chinese, Arabic, and other expanding languages and show how they might overtake English someday -- not just be a one-sentence statement about Spanish. Spanish may have fewer phonemes than English but it's hardly minimal. Spanish's verb system is much more complex with three conjugations, personal endings, more tenses, and more irregular verbs. Spanish is spoken in one country, one continent, and few small ex-colonies. English is a first or second language on all continents. Sluggoster ( talk) 03:03, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
The article says: "The first diaspora involved relatively large-scale migrations of around 25,000 mother-tongue English speakers from England, Scotland and Ireland predominantly to North America, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand."
What timeframe are we talking about here? If we're counting all the migrations from 1600 to the 1800s (when the British colonization of South Africa and New Zealand began), a lot more than 25,000 people left the British Isles. 65.204.123.98 ( talk) 00:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
§ Classification of Englishes says
3 ≠ 4. Which of these is (more) verifiable? To discuss this, please {{Ping}} me. -- Thnidu ( talk) 00:01, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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For those less familiar with WEs, there are several journals dedicated to their study, the most important of which are probably World Englishes and English Today.
Just to be clear, World Englishes are not "Inner Circle" varieties, e.g. Irish English and Australian English, neither are they International English (whatever that is, I suppose ETS designers know best) or English as a Lingua Franca. Trachys ( talk) 14:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
"New Englishes" should redirect here as WE is the preferred term. Trachys ( talk) 14:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I disagree. World Englishes are related to but unique from New Englishes. "World Englishes" runs the risk of confusion with "World English" or "World Standard English" and is an inaccurate term as it does not properly suggest the character of the language varieties in question. "World Englishes" is an umbrella term and goes so far to include the variations of the inner circle of L1 users whilst New Englishes are distinct to L2 users...Need I go on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rough for Radio 1 ( talk • contribs) 11:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
In The Global Spread of English you use dispersal in the titles but diaspora in the text. Unless there is some deep reason for this then it would be better to adopt a consistent term (preferably the same as Kachru). Francis Bond ( talk) 01:43, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Gorlach's model needs some discussion in the text (or to be deleted). As it is, it is only understood by reading the soon-to-be-deleted-and-hard-to-read-anyway illustration. Francis Bond ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:58, 28 November 2010 (UTC).
This is at minimum POV and at least partly inaccurate. A discussion of rivals to English needs to include Chinese, Arabic, and other expanding languages and show how they might overtake English someday -- not just be a one-sentence statement about Spanish. Spanish may have fewer phonemes than English but it's hardly minimal. Spanish's verb system is much more complex with three conjugations, personal endings, more tenses, and more irregular verbs. Spanish is spoken in one country, one continent, and few small ex-colonies. English is a first or second language on all continents. Sluggoster ( talk) 03:03, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
The article says: "The first diaspora involved relatively large-scale migrations of around 25,000 mother-tongue English speakers from England, Scotland and Ireland predominantly to North America, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand."
What timeframe are we talking about here? If we're counting all the migrations from 1600 to the 1800s (when the British colonization of South Africa and New Zealand began), a lot more than 25,000 people left the British Isles. 65.204.123.98 ( talk) 00:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
§ Classification of Englishes says
3 ≠ 4. Which of these is (more) verifiable? To discuss this, please {{Ping}} me. -- Thnidu ( talk) 00:01, 11 May 2015 (UTC)