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To try and keep this short...
Woolworth's had been the original "main" disambiguation page for a number of years (for all uses including "Woolworth") and until recently " Woolworth" redirected there.
Earlier this year (March 2012), someone split it (without discussion) into two dab pages, retaining Woolworth's for the businesses only and Woolworth (disambiguation) for singular uses. However, this was effectively a split between singular, plural and possessive forms of the same base word- and although it's not a cast-iron rule, Wikipedia generally seems to favour combining those into a single dab page (see Wikipedia:DPAGES item 2).
That said, regardless of policy, my original problem was that the *end result* of that split wasn't a clear enough improvement to justify the extra overhead and confusion of having two dab pages for the same root word.
Even in the case of the businesses, the "F.W.Woolworth" was sometimes (AFAIK) known informally as "Woolworth's" and the UK business was also called "F.W. Woolworth" (singular), later "Woolworth" (singular, if logo in article is correct), then latterly "Woolworths" (plural or non-apostrophed possessive?). So is there any point or mileage in splitting those that way?
That said, the single dab page should have been called "Woolworth" (not "Woolworth's") in the first place, as the former (singular) version is more standard and can include singular, possessive and plural versions of "Woolworth", "Woolworths", "Woolworth's", etc. (This may have been part of the original splitter's motivation, so we're possibly agreed on that).
Hence the choice of "Woolworth".
tl;dr version- Better to keep dab entries in single place than go against grain with singular/possessive-form split and singular "Woolworth" a better choice of page-name than "Woolworth's" if it's to cover all uses.
Ubcule ( talk) 23:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
There's also a Barbados Woolworths, which was sold off by the UK arm 20 years ago and will continue to trade. ([ http://www.cbc.bb/index.pl/article?id=2708969 CBC article here) This ought to be mentioned in the dab page. 86.132.138.159 ( talk) 03:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Some pictures of Mr Woolworth ould be appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.227.88 ( talk) 10:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
What is Woolworth's with an apostrophe? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
121.79.54.196 (
talk)
11:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
For any one who is not familiar with the usage of "Woolies" for / instead of "Woolworths" it is not understandable why "Woolies" redirects to "Woolworth".
I think there should be a disambiguation page, titled "Woolies" with the lines like:
Plus links to wiktionary.
But I don't know how to properly set up such a page.
Steue (
talk)
15:29, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
![]() | Disambiguation | |||
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To try and keep this short...
Woolworth's had been the original "main" disambiguation page for a number of years (for all uses including "Woolworth") and until recently " Woolworth" redirected there.
Earlier this year (March 2012), someone split it (without discussion) into two dab pages, retaining Woolworth's for the businesses only and Woolworth (disambiguation) for singular uses. However, this was effectively a split between singular, plural and possessive forms of the same base word- and although it's not a cast-iron rule, Wikipedia generally seems to favour combining those into a single dab page (see Wikipedia:DPAGES item 2).
That said, regardless of policy, my original problem was that the *end result* of that split wasn't a clear enough improvement to justify the extra overhead and confusion of having two dab pages for the same root word.
Even in the case of the businesses, the "F.W.Woolworth" was sometimes (AFAIK) known informally as "Woolworth's" and the UK business was also called "F.W. Woolworth" (singular), later "Woolworth" (singular, if logo in article is correct), then latterly "Woolworths" (plural or non-apostrophed possessive?). So is there any point or mileage in splitting those that way?
That said, the single dab page should have been called "Woolworth" (not "Woolworth's") in the first place, as the former (singular) version is more standard and can include singular, possessive and plural versions of "Woolworth", "Woolworths", "Woolworth's", etc. (This may have been part of the original splitter's motivation, so we're possibly agreed on that).
Hence the choice of "Woolworth".
tl;dr version- Better to keep dab entries in single place than go against grain with singular/possessive-form split and singular "Woolworth" a better choice of page-name than "Woolworth's" if it's to cover all uses.
Ubcule ( talk) 23:01, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
There's also a Barbados Woolworths, which was sold off by the UK arm 20 years ago and will continue to trade. ([ http://www.cbc.bb/index.pl/article?id=2708969 CBC article here) This ought to be mentioned in the dab page. 86.132.138.159 ( talk) 03:31, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Some pictures of Mr Woolworth ould be appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.227.88 ( talk) 10:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
What is Woolworth's with an apostrophe? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
121.79.54.196 (
talk)
11:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
For any one who is not familiar with the usage of "Woolies" for / instead of "Woolworths" it is not understandable why "Woolies" redirects to "Woolworth".
I think there should be a disambiguation page, titled "Woolies" with the lines like:
Plus links to wiktionary.
But I don't know how to properly set up such a page.
Steue (
talk)
15:29, 29 June 2020 (UTC)