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In this episode, the mother mountain lion falling from the cliff is similar to how Mufasa dies in The Lion King.
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It's interesting, but I doubt the TV show is referencing that. The creators also don't mention it on the commentary or in the episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.48.37 ( talk) 01:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I fail to see how the bit that "God would never have sex with a porcupine" should link to zoophilia. Firstly, while Christians might find it in poor taste, the idea that God impregnated Mary through intercourse is a common idea, hence I feel it should link to the article on immaculate conception. Secondly, the subject here is God, who's supposed to be the creator of all things and is not a human, and so I fail to see how such a thing is a reference to zoophilia. Personally, I feel that the "sex with a porcupine" bit is a subtle crack at hirsute women, implying that Mary was not. I'm sure there are people out there that find such references to be in poor taste, but then, those same people probably wouldn't enjoy South Park lest they be hypocrits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.254.181.174 ( talk) 09:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
You are an idiot, try reading the bible before you blast yourself on the internet. There was no incorrect reference, and are you serious in stating that you believe the reference was to the birth of Mary? You are a poster child for abortion, and I really do detest your existence on this planet and all like you who are the origin of the TV show "street smarts"... J. Huber —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.121.133 ( talk) 05:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I think it's a moot point as the immaculate conception refers to the birth of Mary rather than the Messiah. The writers incorrectly referenced it in the episode - H. Carr
I've removed the line under "Cultural references" that refers to a blood-red moon. The celestial body in question appears toward the end of the episode, and is explicitly identified as "a new star in the sky". If you look closely, you can see that it is an upside-down star inside a circle, a common Satanic symbol. - Juansmith ( talk) 09:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know where they got the influence for this ep. from? My god that was a weird show.
The red eyes of the lion in the forest and in the cave, could that be a nod to the neverending story movie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.86.132 ( talk) 03:37, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
"This is the first episode Kyle dies (though it was just in Cartman's story)."
Would the episode Grey Dawn count as another part where Kyle, "dies," even though it was just Cartman's plan to stopping the old people count? I mean if this episode counts towards a death to Kyle even though it was just in a story, wouldn't a plan count as well? MoonSoo 07:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The Happy Tree Friends aren't really evil, silly! Only Flippy the war veteran bear kills anyone on purpose, and that's because he's really emotionally screwed from being in 'Nam. Well, I suppose it might be a reference, though.
Perhaps also a parody of The Grinch who stole Christamass (with the ryme and all). Redge( Talk) 16:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed the same dramatic brass flourish used not only in several South Park episodes (including this one), but in a few commercials as well (one of them a recent Aflac ad, IIRC). I have a feeling this might be a case of several different projects using the same public domain sound/musical effect.
In any case, I'm pretty sure the HL track itself is not used in the episode, so I'm removing the corresponding entry from the trivia section. NighTrekr 19:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
"It is said that Porcupiney is a virgin, but has also had sex with Satan."
Correct me if Im wrong but wouldnt the clash of virginity and sex be whats intended. While watching it, I took that as a reference to Christianity and the whole Virgin Mary thing and given the context of the show, I find such a reference to be perfectly possible. So, I doubt the event described above is a goof and I think it should be erased.
In Cultural References, "The lion being killed and later resurrected is similar to Aslan in The Chronicles of Narnia."
But to me it seems any similarity is only accidental. The only similarity I see is that the lion is on a stone (like Aslan was, in the movie). But, the dissimilarities are: (1) in Chronicles of Narnia, Aslan resurrects on his own—i.e. "resurrects", not "resurrected"; (2) Aslan is a male lion with manes, not a mother lion; (3) Aslan is resurrected before the bulk of the action (i.e. the battle with the witch), not after.
Unless there's a strong evidence that the creators meant to reference Chronicles of Narnia (in which case, I don't think they did a good job), I think it should be removed.
Who did the voices for the characters? did they bring in celebs or was it just standard casting?
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In this episode, the mother mountain lion falling from the cliff is similar to how Mufasa dies in The Lion King.
I removed the following bullet point:
It's interesting, but I doubt the TV show is referencing that. The creators also don't mention it on the commentary or in the episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.48.37 ( talk) 01:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I fail to see how the bit that "God would never have sex with a porcupine" should link to zoophilia. Firstly, while Christians might find it in poor taste, the idea that God impregnated Mary through intercourse is a common idea, hence I feel it should link to the article on immaculate conception. Secondly, the subject here is God, who's supposed to be the creator of all things and is not a human, and so I fail to see how such a thing is a reference to zoophilia. Personally, I feel that the "sex with a porcupine" bit is a subtle crack at hirsute women, implying that Mary was not. I'm sure there are people out there that find such references to be in poor taste, but then, those same people probably wouldn't enjoy South Park lest they be hypocrits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.254.181.174 ( talk) 09:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
You are an idiot, try reading the bible before you blast yourself on the internet. There was no incorrect reference, and are you serious in stating that you believe the reference was to the birth of Mary? You are a poster child for abortion, and I really do detest your existence on this planet and all like you who are the origin of the TV show "street smarts"... J. Huber —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.176.121.133 ( talk) 05:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I think it's a moot point as the immaculate conception refers to the birth of Mary rather than the Messiah. The writers incorrectly referenced it in the episode - H. Carr
I've removed the line under "Cultural references" that refers to a blood-red moon. The celestial body in question appears toward the end of the episode, and is explicitly identified as "a new star in the sky". If you look closely, you can see that it is an upside-down star inside a circle, a common Satanic symbol. - Juansmith ( talk) 09:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody know where they got the influence for this ep. from? My god that was a weird show.
The red eyes of the lion in the forest and in the cave, could that be a nod to the neverending story movie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.86.132 ( talk) 03:37, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
"This is the first episode Kyle dies (though it was just in Cartman's story)."
Would the episode Grey Dawn count as another part where Kyle, "dies," even though it was just Cartman's plan to stopping the old people count? I mean if this episode counts towards a death to Kyle even though it was just in a story, wouldn't a plan count as well? MoonSoo 07:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
The Happy Tree Friends aren't really evil, silly! Only Flippy the war veteran bear kills anyone on purpose, and that's because he's really emotionally screwed from being in 'Nam. Well, I suppose it might be a reference, though.
Perhaps also a parody of The Grinch who stole Christamass (with the ryme and all). Redge( Talk) 16:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed the same dramatic brass flourish used not only in several South Park episodes (including this one), but in a few commercials as well (one of them a recent Aflac ad, IIRC). I have a feeling this might be a case of several different projects using the same public domain sound/musical effect.
In any case, I'm pretty sure the HL track itself is not used in the episode, so I'm removing the corresponding entry from the trivia section. NighTrekr 19:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
"It is said that Porcupiney is a virgin, but has also had sex with Satan."
Correct me if Im wrong but wouldnt the clash of virginity and sex be whats intended. While watching it, I took that as a reference to Christianity and the whole Virgin Mary thing and given the context of the show, I find such a reference to be perfectly possible. So, I doubt the event described above is a goof and I think it should be erased.
In Cultural References, "The lion being killed and later resurrected is similar to Aslan in The Chronicles of Narnia."
But to me it seems any similarity is only accidental. The only similarity I see is that the lion is on a stone (like Aslan was, in the movie). But, the dissimilarities are: (1) in Chronicles of Narnia, Aslan resurrects on his own—i.e. "resurrects", not "resurrected"; (2) Aslan is a male lion with manes, not a mother lion; (3) Aslan is resurrected before the bulk of the action (i.e. the battle with the witch), not after.
Unless there's a strong evidence that the creators meant to reference Chronicles of Narnia (in which case, I don't think they did a good job), I think it should be removed.
Who did the voices for the characters? did they bring in celebs or was it just standard casting?
Cite then return to the main article;