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Have added sections Dianaliverman ( talk)
I see that some editors have expressed concerns during the draft and review stages that this article has neutrality or tone issues. I'm going to ask that if you feel that way, please be specific about which comments and where. It seems to me that the author has taken great care to provide a reliable source for almost every statement in the article. While there are a few spots where it might be improved, overall it is significantly better than the average Wikipedia article on sourcing and notability. Let's absolutely focus on improving the article, but focus on what specifically needs improving. —Tim Pierce ( talk) 01:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Dividing the list into four categories (Women climate researchers with Wikipedia pages/Women climate change policy makers and activists in Wikipedia/IPCC Authors/International Scientific Committees) seems very odd, as there must be massive overlap between groups 1, 3 and 4 (the division into science and policy/activism makes more sense). Beyond this I seem to recall that listing people just because they are Wikipedians is deprecated? Finally some of the people listed as having Wiki pages don't! Jonathan A Jones ( talk) 16:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. My suggestion is to merge sections 3 and 4 into 1 and 2 as appropriate, but I thought it wise to seek wider opinion before doing so. Jonathan A Jones ( talk) 19:43, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes I was actually told at one point (by Wikipedia) that I could ONLY include women with Wikipedia pages and that the inclusion of other women should use measures of their notability and excellence. The highest accolades in climate science are to be a member of National Academy of Sciences, to be nominated or elected to the committees of the International Council of Science, and to be nominated by your country as an IPCC author (most of whom are included under the award of the Nobel Prize to IPCC). A final criteria is that they have a large number of cited papers in the peer reviewed literature. We selected these criteria to ensure only the very best and notable scientists were included. And yes there is overlap but it is noted for each woman if they are also an IPCC or NAS or ICSU member thus adding to their notability Thanks Dianaliverman ( talk) 22:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I have combined all the women scientists into one list and will just put IPCC and ICSU in the description of each woman to get rid of the Wikipedia criteria Dianaliverman ( talk) 22:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
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Have added sections Dianaliverman ( talk)
I see that some editors have expressed concerns during the draft and review stages that this article has neutrality or tone issues. I'm going to ask that if you feel that way, please be specific about which comments and where. It seems to me that the author has taken great care to provide a reliable source for almost every statement in the article. While there are a few spots where it might be improved, overall it is significantly better than the average Wikipedia article on sourcing and notability. Let's absolutely focus on improving the article, but focus on what specifically needs improving. —Tim Pierce ( talk) 01:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Dividing the list into four categories (Women climate researchers with Wikipedia pages/Women climate change policy makers and activists in Wikipedia/IPCC Authors/International Scientific Committees) seems very odd, as there must be massive overlap between groups 1, 3 and 4 (the division into science and policy/activism makes more sense). Beyond this I seem to recall that listing people just because they are Wikipedians is deprecated? Finally some of the people listed as having Wiki pages don't! Jonathan A Jones ( talk) 16:13, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. My suggestion is to merge sections 3 and 4 into 1 and 2 as appropriate, but I thought it wise to seek wider opinion before doing so. Jonathan A Jones ( talk) 19:43, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes I was actually told at one point (by Wikipedia) that I could ONLY include women with Wikipedia pages and that the inclusion of other women should use measures of their notability and excellence. The highest accolades in climate science are to be a member of National Academy of Sciences, to be nominated or elected to the committees of the International Council of Science, and to be nominated by your country as an IPCC author (most of whom are included under the award of the Nobel Prize to IPCC). A final criteria is that they have a large number of cited papers in the peer reviewed literature. We selected these criteria to ensure only the very best and notable scientists were included. And yes there is overlap but it is noted for each woman if they are also an IPCC or NAS or ICSU member thus adding to their notability Thanks Dianaliverman ( talk) 22:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I have combined all the women scientists into one list and will just put IPCC and ICSU in the description of each woman to get rid of the Wikipedia criteria Dianaliverman ( talk) 22:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)