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Requested move 25 November 2016
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Support. Looking at the history this was boldly moved from the DAB page back in February, so it should be undone with a request to move Winters -> Winters (disambiguation) filed. For the record I agree that the DAB page should be main anyway and I guess it doesn't matter now that this is here.
Nohomersryan (
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01:06, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. What you're proposing is that there is no
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Winters", so that "Winters" should be the name of the dab page. What I see is that there is a primary topic. Going by pageviews,
Winters, California is the
primary topic among the three articles. (This is clearer if you change the "chart type" to a pie chart. The start date of the range is the date that
Winters was moved to
Winters (name).) If you scroll to the bottom of the page, you can see the numbers. (I would do a comparison of the use of
Winters, but the Redirect Views tool has a bug that won't let me set the date properly. Gah. But from what I could gather, it doesn't get nearly as many uses as the town in California.)
There are eight or nine articles that link to
Winters; every one of them is the plural form of "winter". If the redirect gets retargeted, we'll have to fix those links first.
Your analysis omits the most important meaning of "Winters", namely the plural of
Winter. Once you factor that in, then there is no primary topic (or if there is, it is as the plural of
Winter).--
MrStoofer (
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10:09, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
MrStoofer, I couldn't do an analysis of the redirect
Winters because of a bug in the software. That's been taken care of now, and the
redirect analysis shows that the plural got 1,287 views over the same period, or about 4 views per day. Compare that to 62/day for
Winters, California, 23/day for
Winters, Texas, and 4/day for
Winters (name), and the California town is easily the primary topic.
Dicklyon, most people looking for a particular person are going to search on the full name—"Shelley Winters"—not on the surname only. Articles on individuals with the surname aren't in the running for the "Winters" primary topic, just the page
Winters (name), which gets only 4 views/day. —
Gorthian (
talk)
04:29, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
And I certain wouldn't propose them to be primary topic. But they are part of what the disambig page is about; the little city in California is a tiny part of what is being disambiguated.
Dicklyon (
talk)
09:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Naturally the primary topic for winters is its singular. In any case, it's most certainly not an obscure town of 7,000 people! Why would anyone think that? --
Necrothesp (
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16:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 25 November 2016
The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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Support. Looking at the history this was boldly moved from the DAB page back in February, so it should be undone with a request to move Winters -> Winters (disambiguation) filed. For the record I agree that the DAB page should be main anyway and I guess it doesn't matter now that this is here.
Nohomersryan (
talk)
01:06, 25 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. What you're proposing is that there is no
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Winters", so that "Winters" should be the name of the dab page. What I see is that there is a primary topic. Going by pageviews,
Winters, California is the
primary topic among the three articles. (This is clearer if you change the "chart type" to a pie chart. The start date of the range is the date that
Winters was moved to
Winters (name).) If you scroll to the bottom of the page, you can see the numbers. (I would do a comparison of the use of
Winters, but the Redirect Views tool has a bug that won't let me set the date properly. Gah. But from what I could gather, it doesn't get nearly as many uses as the town in California.)
There are eight or nine articles that link to
Winters; every one of them is the plural form of "winter". If the redirect gets retargeted, we'll have to fix those links first.
Your analysis omits the most important meaning of "Winters", namely the plural of
Winter. Once you factor that in, then there is no primary topic (or if there is, it is as the plural of
Winter).--
MrStoofer (
talk)
10:09, 28 November 2016 (UTC)reply
MrStoofer, I couldn't do an analysis of the redirect
Winters because of a bug in the software. That's been taken care of now, and the
redirect analysis shows that the plural got 1,287 views over the same period, or about 4 views per day. Compare that to 62/day for
Winters, California, 23/day for
Winters, Texas, and 4/day for
Winters (name), and the California town is easily the primary topic.
Dicklyon, most people looking for a particular person are going to search on the full name—"Shelley Winters"—not on the surname only. Articles on individuals with the surname aren't in the running for the "Winters" primary topic, just the page
Winters (name), which gets only 4 views/day. —
Gorthian (
talk)
04:29, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
And I certain wouldn't propose them to be primary topic. But they are part of what the disambig page is about; the little city in California is a tiny part of what is being disambiguated.
Dicklyon (
talk)
09:07, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Naturally the primary topic for winters is its singular. In any case, it's most certainly not an obscure town of 7,000 people! Why would anyone think that? --
Necrothesp (
talk)
16:21, 30 November 2016 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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