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I think it's actually 1000 rather than 900, or at least thats what my HOY told me. If anyone has a better estimate then please change it back. Felixwells 13:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC) its 800 actually 😂X_X — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.251.106.71 ( talk) 02:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Some of the srticke seems to have been taken from here although no copyright information is present. Should we remove the violating content? -- Felixwells 22:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that it may be appropriate to mention the leadership of the former Headmaster the late Mr. F.W. Lockwood and his Deputy Head the late Mr. A.E. Ball, under whose leadership the school developed considerably in the immediate postwar years. If there are contributors who support this, would you please post you comment here. thanks. Miletus ( talk) 19:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no objective way in which current academic achievements can be compared to those of 160 years ago as claimed. Similarly, subjective quality assessments such as "fine" are inappropriate here. ExLibre ( talk) 10:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I recently added the lyrics of the William Ellis School Song to this entry. It was removed by another editor, Fmph, quoting WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI, which specifically precludes adding song lyrics. However, my opinion is that this School Song and its content reflect a particular, post-Victorian public school ethos, which contrasted with the liberal educational values espoused by the School in the 1970s. In addition, Fmph seemed unwilling to delete the School Songs which are present on several other school pages. I have therefore reinstated the lyrics of the William Ellis School Song on the grounds that they do have particular encyclopaedic value, and are not available elsewhere on the Web. ExLibre ( talk) 15:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I've managed to get access to a copy of the book in the reference, and it does discuss the authors of the song. W.S.Robertson wrote the lyrics for a competition in 1927. He was in the 4th form at the time, so was maybe 15? That would make him 100 this year if he was still alive. Copyright lasts for a minimum of 50 years after the authors death, so he would have had to have died before the age of 50 in order for the lyrics to be out of copyright now. I think that highly unlikely and unless it can be confirmed the safest route would be to remove the lyrics. As an aside Mr Wheeler who wrote the music was a master at the school, definitive age unknown although was said to be young in 1902. Music copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the composer, so his copyright might be close to expiring. And I cannot find anywhere in the book that says the scong is a reflection of the victorian values of the school, so that part can come out as well. Fmph ( talk) 19:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC) Just disappointing to be in the hands of "Jobsworths" I would have thought said lyricist and also composer would have been appalled that their work was missing from the only reliable source of history, so dies the school song, not as if they would rely on royalties to keep them in their old age!! I can barely remember it. Just very sad!! As far as I remember we Elysians had a sense of independence and mild rebellion in the happy days before the 'net (not too serious but jobsworths were frowned on then !) and so please put the lyrics and song in here if you don't mind they were printed in every calendar with no copyright sign, that is generations of diaries... . this unsigned needs a conduct mark for insolence...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.48.85 ( talk) 00:39, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I have become aware that a large quantity of alumni have been removed from the lists on the grounds of "non-notability". In practice, this seems to have been determined by whether or not the individuals have a personal Wikipedia entry. This seems a drastic and misjudged pruning of the list - what do others feel? ExLibre ( talk) 11:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Because they were seven miles away. Would the local newspaper's website be an adequately good source? http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2012/03/12/traffic-chaos-as-school-and-football-events-clash-116451-30513651/ (I was there at the time. We did indeed get taken on a seven-mile coach trip once a week for games. Just need to find an acceptable source.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.102.118 ( talk) 03:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
The co-ordinates takes you to somewhere in Hull! I'm not sure how to do co-ordinates, i'm afraid. 194.66.229.8 ( talk) 15:43, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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I think it's actually 1000 rather than 900, or at least thats what my HOY told me. If anyone has a better estimate then please change it back. Felixwells 13:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC) its 800 actually 😂X_X — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.251.106.71 ( talk) 02:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
Some of the srticke seems to have been taken from here although no copyright information is present. Should we remove the violating content? -- Felixwells 22:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
I think that it may be appropriate to mention the leadership of the former Headmaster the late Mr. F.W. Lockwood and his Deputy Head the late Mr. A.E. Ball, under whose leadership the school developed considerably in the immediate postwar years. If there are contributors who support this, would you please post you comment here. thanks. Miletus ( talk) 19:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no objective way in which current academic achievements can be compared to those of 160 years ago as claimed. Similarly, subjective quality assessments such as "fine" are inappropriate here. ExLibre ( talk) 10:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I recently added the lyrics of the William Ellis School Song to this entry. It was removed by another editor, Fmph, quoting WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI, which specifically precludes adding song lyrics. However, my opinion is that this School Song and its content reflect a particular, post-Victorian public school ethos, which contrasted with the liberal educational values espoused by the School in the 1970s. In addition, Fmph seemed unwilling to delete the School Songs which are present on several other school pages. I have therefore reinstated the lyrics of the William Ellis School Song on the grounds that they do have particular encyclopaedic value, and are not available elsewhere on the Web. ExLibre ( talk) 15:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I've managed to get access to a copy of the book in the reference, and it does discuss the authors of the song. W.S.Robertson wrote the lyrics for a competition in 1927. He was in the 4th form at the time, so was maybe 15? That would make him 100 this year if he was still alive. Copyright lasts for a minimum of 50 years after the authors death, so he would have had to have died before the age of 50 in order for the lyrics to be out of copyright now. I think that highly unlikely and unless it can be confirmed the safest route would be to remove the lyrics. As an aside Mr Wheeler who wrote the music was a master at the school, definitive age unknown although was said to be young in 1902. Music copyright lasts 70 years after the death of the composer, so his copyright might be close to expiring. And I cannot find anywhere in the book that says the scong is a reflection of the victorian values of the school, so that part can come out as well. Fmph ( talk) 19:08, 8 February 2012 (UTC) Just disappointing to be in the hands of "Jobsworths" I would have thought said lyricist and also composer would have been appalled that their work was missing from the only reliable source of history, so dies the school song, not as if they would rely on royalties to keep them in their old age!! I can barely remember it. Just very sad!! As far as I remember we Elysians had a sense of independence and mild rebellion in the happy days before the 'net (not too serious but jobsworths were frowned on then !) and so please put the lyrics and song in here if you don't mind they were printed in every calendar with no copyright sign, that is generations of diaries... . this unsigned needs a conduct mark for insolence...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.48.85 ( talk) 00:39, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I have become aware that a large quantity of alumni have been removed from the lists on the grounds of "non-notability". In practice, this seems to have been determined by whether or not the individuals have a personal Wikipedia entry. This seems a drastic and misjudged pruning of the list - what do others feel? ExLibre ( talk) 11:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Because they were seven miles away. Would the local newspaper's website be an adequately good source? http://www.harrowobserver.co.uk/west-london-news/local-harrow-news/2012/03/12/traffic-chaos-as-school-and-football-events-clash-116451-30513651/ (I was there at the time. We did indeed get taken on a seven-mile coach trip once a week for games. Just need to find an acceptable source.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.102.118 ( talk) 03:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
The co-ordinates takes you to somewhere in Hull! I'm not sure how to do co-ordinates, i'm afraid. 194.66.229.8 ( talk) 15:43, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
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I’m surprised not to see Jon Amiel film director on the list. Profmarsh ( talk) 19:59, 12 April 2024 (UTC)