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Multiple discussions on the subject have failed to achieve a consensus for or against including a reference to urine. However, please refrain from adding any such reference to the article. If you wish to bring this topic up on the talk page, please first read past discussions on the subject found in Archive 22 and Archive 23.
Information on Wii Remote strap failures and Nintendo's replacement offer are summarized in the article. Further details are documented in the Wii Remote article. Discussion on the subject can be found in Archive 21.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Original_Research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
Either source it with GameSpot or IGN or it's staying out.
The Nintendo WiFi comment about 32 players is not needed at all. This is boasting about it's online capabilities and this is not the section for that. Do we have editors going back gloating about the amount of players online on the Ps2, Xbox, and GC? Of course not. This is not going to be the case here as there is no incentive for having it. Lastly, router hardware problems are the least of all things to put under a technical problem about the Wii. -- ChibiMrBubbles 11:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Wow, talk about anal. Gamespot or Ign were examples. Ill be more vague in the future thanks to you. Routers would fall into flaw desing or outdated routers. WiFi up to 32 is flat out unneeded. So I implore you to find a good editorial for Wiiconnect24. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChibiMrBubbles ( talk • contribs) 14:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
What's wrong in summary:
The WiiGraphical glitch by WiiConnect24 is not sourced by a reliable source, in this case it is a Wii fansite. It is original research, and does not belong on Wikipedia.
The routers (all 3 of them that don't work) have had past history of not working with other consoles, such as the Xbox, and should not be brought up here. That's right, look up their history. This isn't a hardware problem with the Wii. Nintendo was bold to come out and say which lousy designed routers don't work with the Wii, Microsoft nor Sony aren't even going to bother.
The Nintendo WiFi statement about up to 32 players is flagrant fanboysim that implies this is a major contribution to the Wii. It is not, for no one knows what the players level cap is on multiplayer Wii games. The statement would make more sense on the DS's wiki article due to the built in pictochat having up to 16 players. This statement does not need to stay here, at all. There is no coherent reasoning since this is not part of the Wii's internal hardware. If you must mention something, do the Wii message board or Wii Friend codes cap.
And stay on topic, my attitude is not relevant to this (which is a slander giving the circumstances of the edits).-- ChibiMrBubbles 14:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if we can include a section about firmware versions. I'm not going to push the matter but I wanna hear others opinions.-- ChibiMrBubbles 20:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Well since we are having a new consensus, I'm going to put my two cents and say it belongs here on the Wii's systems page because some of the firmware functionality affects other things aside from the Wii's OS, such as adding AOSS on the internal WiFi menu settings. I also want to add that the Playstation 3 has it's own separate article for it's own firmware updates, not implying anything but giving suggestions for alternative resolutions.-- ChibiMrBubbles 21:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Discussions of moving the firmware to its own separate page should take place on the Wii Menu talk page.
Any references that we can add which estimate how much the Nintendo Wii costs to build? I'm curious to know if they are selling it at a loss (as was done with the Cube). - Theaveng 14:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the nintendo gamecube started out as a loss but, when it made a major price cut it made up for it. The wii costs very little to make but, it takes a little while to do. Nintendo has definitely found their niche with this console.--—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oasiyis ( talk • contribs) 03:55 8 November 2007
Unfortunately, since there is virtually no information on precisely *what* the Broadway CPU and Hollywood GPU are, there's a huge big gap left in trying to estimate the price. A lot of the other components can be judged in price; i.e, in quantities of 1,000, the accelerometers in the Wii Remote cost about $5US per. (though Nintendo, which has bought millions so far, certainly pays less for them) Likewise, one can estimate the cost of a 512miB GDDR3 module from Samsung, as it's identical to the RAM modules found in the Xbox 360, PS3, and a lot of modern video cards. You can tally up the prices of a lot of the components... But the GPU and CPU remain unknowns. I honestly can't say anything on the CPU, though if I were to take a guess, I'd think that the "Vegas" main die for the GPU would cost comparable to the RV530 that's found in ATi's Radeon X1600 series video cards; both are 90nm-process parts, and have roughly close to comparable surface area, and are designed by ATi. But then again, one COULD do all of this, but it would be original research if done for Wikipedia. Nottheking ( talk) 04:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I've recorded a video of two kids playing the Wii at the Wii Experience in Six Flags - Image:Wii_play.ogg. If the editors of this article want to add it, please do. ALTON .ıl 06:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
4.23 million + 3.47 million + 2+ million + 138,192 + 6 thousand ~= 10.7+ million. It should be 9.8+ million if you approximate the Aussie numbers to 100,000 and disregard New Zealand. So the question is how do we provide a source for this updated figure? Because clearly just by looking at the numbers and quickly adding them can lead to errors as happened here (whoever did this added the 100,000 as 1 million). And we can't just use "punch these #s into a calculator" as the source. But I don't think there is an actual source for this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.125.60 ( talk) 18:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you think that this number would be better as it comes directly from nintendo? Also, if we leave it as is displaying the summed figure, how do we indicate that it is the sum of the previous numbers? -Mariokarter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.102.88 ( talk) 03:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
the article where it claims the wii is ahead of 360 shows strange numbers, that seem to be lower than either console should have sold, and seems to be innaccurate, i am not sure what it is based on. it calls the xbox 360 an xbox unit, and even if it were correct, shouldn't the page say "as of july" i really think the sold should say shipped for the 13 whatever million. these two numbers cant coexist... the wii sold 500k in sept, so does that mean it sold 3.5 mill in august? obviously there is a mistake here... somewhere. it isn't clear which of the two consoles is ahead, so neither should say the place, and the sold should be changed to shipped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 11:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
upon actually reading the article i realize that the statement about the wii being in the lead definately needs a new source or to be removed. logically, it makes no sense. they use numbers from the end of july for the world (minus japan) and numbers from the end of august for japan. so the wii could have never been ahead at any point in time! example: pretend neither console had any sales. then in july the wii sells 500k worldwide. the xbox 360 sells 600k worldwide. in august the wii sells 500k worldwide (400k of which are in japan) xbox 360 sells 600k worldwide (12k in japan). If you add up the numbers the way they did, you get more wii sales than xbox 360 sales, but the xbox 360 outsold the wii EVERY MONTH! you would need to drop japan's august sales from each console for it to make sense. I could show that anything outsold anything if i only include certain regions. the article might as well only show japan's sales for every month. am i the only one that realizes that this article does not prove that the wii was ahead of the xbox 360 at any point in time? please make the appropriate corrections, or find the wii's japan numbers and subtract them from the 9 mill and see if it is still ahead on 8.9 mill, but even this is not very good, as the 9 mill and 8.9 mill are rounded. it may be 8.94 mill and 8.96 mill, and japan's august sales would only need to be 20k for the statement to be untrue (well 20K plus xbox 360's japan sales). then again it could be 8.95 mill minus 1 and 8.95 mill, and japan's auguest wii sales would only need to be one more than xbox 360 sales for it to be untrue. we might as well count only japan for 20 months and say the ps3 is ahead of the xbox 360... come on people, common sense shows that you cant only count japan for any period of time, especially considering the wii sells better there than anywhere, and the xbox 360 sells worse there than anywhere. end rant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 12:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I said that as an example, not fact. I am saying that you need proof and not just "it's safe to say" it is also safe to say that halo 3 has outsold gears of war, but there is no real proof. sure 14.8 million halo: ce + halo 2 units had been sold earlier this year, and now the total of the three is 20 million, but that doesn't mean that more than 4 million copies of halo 3 have been sold. If Nikkei says this than post the link. The link currently there has no proof that wii outsold 360. the math done to get 5.2 million halo 3's sold is MUCH more accurate than the math done to get more wii's than 360's have been sold. so why was the halo math dismissed but the wii math accepted? again, the example wasn't based on actual numbers, it was just showing how it is POSSIBLE (and very much so) that the wii never passed xbox 360 sales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 19:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
fine, if you remove that statement about the wii being in the lead, the link makes no sense. you cannot for any period of time only count one region. since i am signing this you have agreed to remove that statement. 142.165.59.39 19:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Link? this is wikipedia, not some site where you can make things up. post a link proving the wii outsold the xbox 360 in canada and the united states in august, and then the statement is proven true (not exactly, the rest of the world should be taken into account too, what you need to do is take worldwide august sales and subtract japan sales). but if you post a canada/us link for august wii vs xbox 360 numbers i will be satisfied 142.165.59.39 19:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
if these "confirmed numbers" exist then why is the link to a website using faulty numbers!
142.165.59.39 19:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
how do you not understand? the numbers are correct, but they do not prove that the wii has passed the xbox 360 in sales. see my example above. please not that my example is not meant to be true, but only show how the numbers don't really mean anything 142.165.59.39
the link posted here also uses JAPAN ONLY FOR AUGUST! so this is not accurate. I can say the ps3 is ahead of the xbox 360 is i only count japan for long enough of a time. at one point in time the wii has to be ahead of the xbox 360 for it to be proof. take worldwide sales as of the end of july, now add in japan sales for august. this puts wii ahead... so what? i can do funny math this way to prove anything. 142.165.59.39 19:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know whatever became of those crazy lawsuits against the Wii? Have they been dropped, or are they still ongoing? Seems odd because the article mentions them like they're all still current events. Nintenboy01 19:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Satoru Iwata mentions that the Wii is not a yet a success. Should this be mentioned at the reception, or in another article like his article page? Link for proof: [2] Magiciandude 18:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Financial Times states Wii is this generations best selling console in the known universe, despite coming a year after the 360 [ [3]] JayKeaton 21:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The NPD and Enterbrain Also report this. Its an extremely large feat, considering how all nintendo's best franchises hasn't even come out yet. (mario galaxy, brawl, etc) Should we change it? Blackbird3216 22:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
It isn't exclusive to itself. It's also in the sales section. And why does Dawillsta keep editing it? Blackbird3216 23:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning, but my 3rd "revision" was actually a new edit, so i won't get banned. If you want it rewritten, then you do it. Im used to writing stuff with alot of info —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackbird3216 ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
The iPod article mentions it is a best seller as of a certain date. Wii being a best seller as of a certain date, which doesn't seem debatable, then I don't see a big problem with mentioning it in the lead. In fact, it seems like something that is perfectly suited for the lead JayKeaton 17:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Citation needed for "bold" statement - I am thinking about citing it with info from wikipedia. How do I do that? Is it even possible to cite a wiki article with another wiki article? Blackbird3216 02:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo and the Wii have been the top seller in NA for the entirety of 2007, since November 2006 in fact. I don't think the fact that the Wii has been outselling the competition is really debatable, and the fact that Wii is the best seller overall is more debatable, but not by much. There are no counterclaims to the Wii being the best selling console, other than "it is a controversial claim", which is not really good enough without something to back it up JayKeaton 13:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone should update the sales totals. Here is the link: http://wii.ign.com/articles/820/820098p1.html 72.43.140.148 14:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought you would like to see this: [4]. Report from The Sun newspaper of the UK has stated that pensioners up to 103 years of age have been playing the Wii! Of course, I've added that in the demographics section.-- Alasdair 06:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey, i wanted to add this to the external links section. You can watch all Wii Commercials here. I was about to add it and then I saw the message saying I should bring it up on the talk page first, so i am :) Anyway, it's a good resource bc it's hard to find them on youtube or anywhere else. Anyway im adding it, but feel free to take it off if you dont think its a good resource -- JasonHanson 16:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
--Oh, sorry! -- JasonHanson 17:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
That is absurd. The official trademark for Microsoft windows is just "Windows"... perhaps we should also name that article to just "Windows" rather than the already named "Microsoft Windows"? There is no double standards, if Ms windows article is named "Microsoft Windows" although the trademark is only "Windows", then so should this article be named "Nintendo Wii". Im seriously starting to think that some Nintendo representatives are lurring around Wikipedia.-- 78.86.117.164 01:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, shouldn't this page be Nintendo Wii? Mick 96 08:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
There's currently appears to be a reversion conflict [5]. Which version is the correct one? -- Russoc4 17:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else want to experiment with unprotecting this article? The Placebo Effect 16:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
What is the current price on a Wii? I didn't see it in the article, and I thought it might be a good thing to add. BaldurtheGreat 18:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Pricing is a useful tool for comparing worldwide costs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.74.15 ( talk) 13:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Not alot of info is posted about this in the article. For example, it's storage capacity is not mentioned. Is it known? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.110.193.166 ( talk) 11:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
A semi-annual Earnings release is scheduled to be released by Nintendo in two weeks (October 25), according to http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html. Socby19 02:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It should also be said that the system has sold 12 million copies. 10.7 copies bought and 12 million shipped, so altogether the system has sold 22.7 units so far. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.237.50.62 ( talk) 21:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
So they sold only 12 units so far? Including the untis that were shipped? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.237.50.62 ( talk) 02:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are all the images on the right hand side? It sort of looks silly having every single image to the extreme right, makes it seem less like an article. JayKeaton 13:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The first generation of Nintendo Wii controllers are not safe, and have been responsible for broken TVs. Users are playing their favorite game and suddenly the remote strap breaks and flies into the TV, breaking the screen. The Wii wrist strap is too flimsy to handle all the intense motion of the hand. http://www.wiichat.com/nintendo-wii-articles/6700-nintendo-wii-launch.html
Another common problem that people have is getting carried away. It is posted all over the internet about people hitting things while playing Wii. Users need to remember to keep distance between them and their surroundings. http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.8.239.59 ( talk) 20:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo releasesed its latest financial report today. It has revealed that 13.17 million units have been sold as of September 30. I would have updated this myself, except that the sales are currently divided by specific regions, whereas the report only lists sales as Japan, The Americas, and Other. [6] - Zomic13 06:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have any data more recent than over 2 months ago? Some sources are saying the Wii has passed the 15 million mark. 142.177.27.18 02:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I am proposing a merge discussion on several Wii articles - the discussion to be, however, what to merge and where.
So, here's what I propose...
I just don't know where to. WiiConnect24 would probably be best here, while the second and third would obviously go to Wii Channel, but Wii Points would only fit in a Wii Shop Channel article, which became a redirect, and Wii Balance Board would go to Wii Fit, but not everyone agrees. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that most of those articles need to be merged. I'm indifferent about merging WiiConnect24 with Wii. I'd strongly oppose Everybody Votes and the Internet Channel being merged into something else as they're pretty much discrete pieces of software, albeit downloadable and labelled as 'channels'. As for Wii Points, Microsoft and Sony's alternatives also have their own articles. There's already been a discussion about whether Wii Balance Board and Wii Fit should be merged. To be honest, I really don't see why these articles should be merged just because they 'could' be squished into something else. They're all reasonably lengthy and are really subjects in their own right.
EvilRedEye 20:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Well I'd recommend starting a merge discussion on Wii Balance Board since the case for merging it seems to have some merit and it's probably best to discuss a merge on the talk page of the actual article affected. As for the two channels, they're clearly independently notable, even if they aren't 'well known'. I honestly don't see what merging them would achieve, since a summary about them already exists on Wii Menu. You'd effectively end up just deleting the articles. EvilRedEye 11:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The Wii may or may not be in the lead, but the link does not prove that it ever was. The link uses sales up to July, and then Japan-only August sales. You can't for any period of time only count one region, especially not the Wii's best region and the Xbox 360's worst region. A new link needs to be provided or the statement removed. I tried explaining this in sales numbers, but those clowns have little to no idea how this works. Don't tell me the Wii also outsold the Xbox 360 in the US/Canada(in August), post a link. Maybe they will eventually post a link, but I got tired of waiting. It bothers me that this can get posted on Wikipedia without proper references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 19:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
those links are required after the statement in the article, at least to prove it (which it still really hasn't since europe isn't counted, but counting the usa is enough to satisfy me). thanks for the links... can the 1.5 mill of bioshock make it acceptable for the list of best selling video games under xbox 360? 142.165.59.39 20:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
clown statement retracted, rofl. even though the links you posted used estimates, and this is wikipedia, not estimatipedia. so it isn't really fair to use them to put wii in the lead. but you guys are all defensive of nintendo for some reason... the company isn't very good. the NES and SNES were good, the 64 was pretty good, but the cube is among the worst consoles ever made, and the wii is less powerful than my wristwatch. 142.165.59.39 20:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I see that my edit changing the sold to shipped has been reverted. This is one of those situations in which you wish you could change your edit summary. When I said that the source said shipped, I was going off of memory which was apparently wrong, however, I have an explanation. Over at Talk: History of video game consoles (seventh generation) it was explained to me very clearly that on financial reports, sold means shipped. Since it was so clear I will copy it to here:
In a company statement sold usually means to distributors or large retail chains, it does not indicate sell through to consumer. Due to things like price drops many times sold does not actually indicate that the manufacturer has even been paid for the product (this is why when a price drop occurs retailers don't generally lose the difference in price, they simply take the dropped price off of what they owe the manufacturer based on their remaining inventory). In the case of using financial statements, sold means shipped not sold to consumers. I'm going to edit my explanation a little further to clarify. Here is an example of when sales don't mean sales but shipped. In a company statement shortly after the launch of the Ngage Nokia announced that they had sold 400,000 units. Their definition of sold meant they were available to purchase in retail channels the actual number sold to consumers was shockingly low (under 20,000 worldwide at that point). MysteriousMystery 3:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I got these two things mixed up in my mind and said that the source said shipped. This comment is the reason that I changed the word sold to shipped in the sales table and the infobox. I also added the units sold parameter since both the PS3 and Xbox 360 articles use both. These three articles should probably be kept as similar as possible since a lot of people compare the three consoles through the articles. Also, the History of video game consoles (seventh generation) article uses the 13.17 number as a units shipped number(because of the comment by MysteriousMystery). That article should be kept in accordance with this article and since I felt that MysteriousMystery was right, I thought I should change this article rather than that one. I will wait until tomorrow for comments before changing the article again (unless the discussion goes in favor of change).-- Kyle( talk) 03:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I tried to add a reference to the Wii modchips, but this was instantly removed by Lamename3000 without him mentioning any reason. Is this some official stance? And if so, why is that? There is a page about modchips, and there are a specific page listing Wii modchips - interlinking to these seems correct, not to mention that modchipping these devices definitely is happening, always have been happing, and thus should be mentioned in an all-encompassing encyclopedia. Stolsvik 10:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Anamorphic refers to the way a digital video is transferred from film and has nothing to do with how a video game console displays an image. Nothing in reference #50 says anything about "anamorphic widescreen," only that the Wii is capable of 480p resolution through component cables. The reference to "anamorphic" is doubly improper considering that the Wii is not capable of playing DVD video. This should be removed immediately. KyuzoGator 04:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed that the article does not mention the Check Mii Out channel, and I am unable to edit it. Just letting you guys know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.148.20 ( talk) 22:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
"There are six primary channels: the Disc Channel, Mii Channel, Photo Channel, Wii Shop Channel, Forecast Channel and News Channel. The latter two were initially unavailable at launch, but activated through firmware updates."
Your right, but this part needs updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.148.20 ( talk) 22:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am a non-admin, but this article has Full Protection on it, and I think I know better.
The IPA did not have a Japanese pronunciation, which I think is /ɰii/ (quoted here without pitch instructions because I do not know the Japanese pitch accent), not /ˈwiː/ as in English.
... Consensus or not, you always forget that the Wii is a Japanese console ...
Llamagnu ( talk) 15:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC) Posted by Llamagnu on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:33 PM
I think you are getting way too anal if you want to argue about the pronunciation of "Wii". Just watch this Wii commercial
http://wii.nintendo.com/wiicommercials_index.jsp
It's not rocket surgery.
Asher196 (
talk) 02:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
This is rather sad, that you are arguing about it now. It's been universally agreed upon for ages, and Japanese Wii commercials pronounce Wii the same way as the English ones. It does not involve, nay, require that much insight. Luigi6138 ( talk) 02:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe not always the case, but I'm usually easily amused by whatever sentence follows "I think I know better." This is a good example. Even a cursory reading of the page and archives makes me think this has been dealt with plenty of times before without the need for someone to just introduce original research with no sources. Epthorn ( talk) 13:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo have said they chose the name because it can be pronounced by anyone in the world. Wii is universal. There is only one way to pronounce it, and if you hear it differently then the person is either wrong or is talking with an accent. .:Alex:. 18:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Has Wii received any awards? as far as i know, it is nominated in the Media Arts Plaza awards. check http://plaza.bunka.go.jp/open/works.html for confirmation (yes, that's a Japanese page). Any other info for Wii's awards will be valuable info too. Boshiaki ( talk) 18:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
"AOSS support was discretely added in firmware update 3.0." Does this mean AOSS support was separately added (discretely) or quietly added (discreetly)? The reference cited would suggest the second spelling. -- 121.45.240.86 ( talk) 00:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to organise Virtual Console games into their own respective console channels? I.e. N64 games into an N64 channel; SNES games into a SNES channel; etc. I've been told "it's not" on previous discussion boards, but the first image on the "Wii Menu" article shows both an N64 and NES channel. What's the story? -- Dark_Wolf101 ( talk) 21:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
The whole article of the wii doesn't state anything about how you move and it moves somebody PLEASE edit that! Littleperson 4:58pm eastern daylight army time:16:58 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleperson ( talk • contribs) 21:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
If you are referring to how you control game play with the Wii Remote, see the section titled "Wii Remote". Asher196 ( talk) 22:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to have my site http://www.newstendo.com added to the unofficial Wii links. We are officially recognized by Nintendo and several third parties as press and as such are provided product to review and access to their press servers and events. We often post exclusive news stories, reviews and editorials making this site is a valuable Wii resource.
Hokahey ( talk) 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)hokahey Hokahey ( talk) 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hokahey ( talk) 23:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hokahey ( talk) 18:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)hokahey
Hi, What is the maximum screen size that the Wii can handle before the controllers stop working properly? I have a projector at home and I was wondering if the Wii would work for a really big screen.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cribe ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Asher196 ( talk) 23:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
The article currently states, "A Nintendo spokesperson has announced that the company plans to release a version of the console with DVD-Video playback capabilities in 2007." Has that happened? I did not notice any major announcements in game magazines or on TV and I was curious if that statement has proven accurate or if it has not in fact come into fruition. In either sense, we should update it accordingly. Best, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 22:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I propose we add the Wii Classic Controller to the "controller input" section of the infobox. Some people disagree and have reverted me, but I don't understand the reason. It IS a controller. Nintendo's Wii site seems to agree with me. http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.jsp Asher196 04:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
On a tangent, shouldn't that bit be updated to include the Wii Balance Board? On the subject of the Classic Controller, I can imagine there being an endless list of expansions for the Wii Remote which would probably eventually just clutter the infobox. Perhaps change it slightly so that it reads " Wii Remote (expandable), Nintendo GameCube Controller"? EvilRedEye 17:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Another tangent: I don't recall "Nintendo GameCube Controller" being an official name, so I lowercased "controller". Just64helpin 18:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I happen to agree that we should keep the controller input as the way it is. If we put the Classic controller there, then, since it is a peripheral to the Wii Remote, we would need to add the nunchuck, and many other things as previously stated. FlamingZelda ( talk) 09:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a reference to Jeff Gerstmann as a gamespot editor, it should maybe now read "former" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.46.162 ( talk) 04:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I've never actually been able to test it myself, but I was wondering, do multi-disc GCN games like Resident Evil 4 still work fine on the Wii when you need to swap discs? Nintenboy01 02:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The article states "Hackers have also reprogrammed the Wii Remote to control devices unrelated to the console through Wii homebrew."
The reference for the above is a newspaper article and I'm certain it's a case of lazy journalism as the remote is not reprogrammed. As I understand it, a driver is used on a computer which communicates with the remote (which is a bluetooth device that follows the HID standard). Then, either the driver itself or some software that interfaces with the driver, interprets the data received.
Does anyone have a better source that shows that the remote itself is reprogrammed? Hydrostatic ( talk) 13:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I learned this through this article, but apparently, in China, a clone of the Wii called the Vii is circulating. There are even knock off games for it. its even being advertised in magazines.. Is this notable to be included in the article (probably not including the sources I found)?
Some other sources:
Vii Pricing and Details Announced THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 03:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the origin of the great music on the commercials? Chris ( talk) 01:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 13:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Wii → Nintendo Wii' — Consistency with Nintendo 64 and Nintendo Gamecube. Also nintendo calls it the "Nintendo Wii" in absolutely all of their branding and we should use the official title. — ffroth 21:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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This has already been discussed (see Talk:Wii/Move to Nintendo Wii). Nintendo does not use "Nintendo Wii" in any of their branding, and has deliberately avoided "Nintendo Wii" in their advertising. Many other reasons to retain just "Wii" can be found at the link I provided. BTW, the correct name would be " Nintendo GameCube" with a capital "C". Just64helpin ( talk) 22:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The link in the sidebar under media for Wii Optical Disc and Nintendo GameCube Game Disc should both link to Nintendo optical discs 151.203.14.176 ( talk) 02:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
We now have a pop culture section again. What's the consensus for this? Just64helpin ( talk) 23:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I hated it and removed it. See WP:IPC Asher196 ( talk) 05:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
A whole bunch of new Wii information here and here.
For what the USBs on Wii are good? Just for USB KeyBoard and Ethernet Adapters? Can I use a USB HUB on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.40.223.88 ( talk) 02:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
When listing new games representing Nintendo's flagship franchises, there is The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Animal Crossing, Pokémon, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart and Fire Emblem. Isn't Mario Kart a part of the Mario franchise? If it is it's own franchise (which I don't think it is) then wouldn't you have to list the Mario Party, Mario Strikers, Paper Mario, and other Mario Sport games for the Wii too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegargoylevine ( talk • contribs) 03:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
also, "The Wii console is Nintendo's smallest home unit to date" is not true. It is actually 2nd after the NES mk II —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.208.76 ( talk) 04:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
(To explain my edit...) One cannot add figures signifying 'sales to consumers' to figures signifying 'sales to retailers'. In Nintendo's financial statements, they list the latter. NDP Group, Enterbrain, and GfK report the former. I've renamed "sales" to "shipped" in the article so as to avoid further confusion.
Either we can switch the listings over to "sold" (as in sold to consumers) or we can keep it as shipped, but if we keep it as shipped, then the information cannot be updated until Nintendo releases its next financial statement. clicketyclick yaketyyak 18:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
The connection between the wii remote and the computer has been listed under the "user modifications" section of the article. In fact, neither the Wii nor the remote need to be modified to connect the wii remote to the computer. 81.132.55.8 ( talk) 15:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I think "hacking" should be left in the section, but I think the section title should be left as "User modification" as was originally put in by RC-0722. Burner0718 ( talk) 23:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, you did partially clarify my statement. I meant that RC-0722 originally CHANGED it to "User modification". Burner0718 ( talk) 03:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
How do you find out your friend code for the Wii.-- DarkFierceDeityLink 02:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I have found a newly-created, poorly written article about a Wii photo channel 1.1. I'm not sure if it exist, however if it does, do you guys think it is approriate to merge it into this article? -- Kannie | talk 16:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Good idea to merge it. Burner0718 ( talk) 03:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I remember Nintendo said the Wii would come out in several different colors, E3 05 or 06 and I also saw a section on it here is it still going to happen-- 24.107.130.109 ( talk) 01:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
" Amazon.com sold Nintendo Wii systems at approximately 17 per second when they were in stock."-- Svetovid ( talk) 01:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Pistol__Wii16.aspx. -- DarkFierceDeityLink 03:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Section 2.3 says that the firmware update rendered some consoles completely unusable; I was one of the ones to get the 110213 error, complete with free replacement, but my console was still usable... all it did was keep me from using any online features (i.e., Shop Channel). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.246.149 ( talk) 21:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
"A distinguishing feature of the console is its wireless controller, the Wii Remote, which can be used as a handheld pointing device and can detect acceleration in three dimensions. Another is WiiConnect24, which enables it to receive messages and updates over the Internet while in standby mode."
Is WiiConnect24 really worthy of being mentioned as a key feature of the console in the second paragraph of the article. Seems like a pretty small thing to me. If I had to select distinguishing feature of the Wii, apart from the Wii Remote, it would be the Virtual Console service. 211.30.178.132 ( talk) 06:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I am aware what WiiConnect24 is, but it is a pretty insignificant feature in overall terms. Like, when people think of the Wii as a console do you think they think "Hey, that's the console with the revolutionary remote pointer thing. And oh, yeah, I read that it can connect to the internet in a standby mode!!". Anyway, you fanboys do what you want. 60.242.117.74 ( talk) 01:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Sure, it's distinguishing, but it's trivial and not worth listing that early in the article. 58.172.187.10 ( talk) 13:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
As of Sept 30th 07 was 3 months ago,it should have been updated, the X360 has been updated to Jan 08 but nither the Wii or PS3 sales have been updated. Both say "As of September 30th 2007", while the 360 is "As of Jan 02 2008", I concer that they both should be updated but I cannot find it on Nintendo's (Or Sony's for the PS3) sales fiques. This doesnt count the Black Friday sales or the recent surge for both in Japan. Ive attempted to find it other places on other sites but they are all for late 06' and early 07'. This has been bugging me, as Peter Griffon says You know what relly grinds my gears Lol. I don;t got time to search all the pages so some Wiki nerd (Jokking!) can search hard or listen to the news for the new sales figures. 'THANKS' Mr.Deathhawk ( talk) 23:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The new wii consoles sold during the 2007 holiday season ship with clear rubberized 'jackets' for the wii remotes. The new version of wii play, which is bundled with a wii remote, also comes with this rubberized jacket. The wii firmware has also been updated to remind users to use these jackets to reduce the possibility of damage to their television sets as well as damage to the remotes themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdbry ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Not sure if it's notable for inclusion, but here's a neat little study. Mahanga Talk 17:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC) [10]
I think the Wii article needs full prtoection. It seems to get vandalised regulary.Like this morning for example, anyone who read the article at about 9.30 will know what I mean, thankfully its now been tided up. However i think it needs full protection, at least for a period of a month or so. Then we can see if any vandalism is attempted again. Gartheknight (talk) 09:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
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Multiple discussions on the subject have failed to achieve a consensus for or against including a reference to urine. However, please refrain from adding any such reference to the article. If you wish to bring this topic up on the talk page, please first read past discussions on the subject found in Archive 22 and Archive 23.
Information on Wii Remote strap failures and Nintendo's replacement offer are summarized in the article. Further details are documented in the Wii Remote article. Discussion on the subject can be found in Archive 21.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Original_Research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
Either source it with GameSpot or IGN or it's staying out.
The Nintendo WiFi comment about 32 players is not needed at all. This is boasting about it's online capabilities and this is not the section for that. Do we have editors going back gloating about the amount of players online on the Ps2, Xbox, and GC? Of course not. This is not going to be the case here as there is no incentive for having it. Lastly, router hardware problems are the least of all things to put under a technical problem about the Wii. -- ChibiMrBubbles 11:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Wow, talk about anal. Gamespot or Ign were examples. Ill be more vague in the future thanks to you. Routers would fall into flaw desing or outdated routers. WiFi up to 32 is flat out unneeded. So I implore you to find a good editorial for Wiiconnect24. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChibiMrBubbles ( talk • contribs) 14:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
What's wrong in summary:
The WiiGraphical glitch by WiiConnect24 is not sourced by a reliable source, in this case it is a Wii fansite. It is original research, and does not belong on Wikipedia.
The routers (all 3 of them that don't work) have had past history of not working with other consoles, such as the Xbox, and should not be brought up here. That's right, look up their history. This isn't a hardware problem with the Wii. Nintendo was bold to come out and say which lousy designed routers don't work with the Wii, Microsoft nor Sony aren't even going to bother.
The Nintendo WiFi statement about up to 32 players is flagrant fanboysim that implies this is a major contribution to the Wii. It is not, for no one knows what the players level cap is on multiplayer Wii games. The statement would make more sense on the DS's wiki article due to the built in pictochat having up to 16 players. This statement does not need to stay here, at all. There is no coherent reasoning since this is not part of the Wii's internal hardware. If you must mention something, do the Wii message board or Wii Friend codes cap.
And stay on topic, my attitude is not relevant to this (which is a slander giving the circumstances of the edits).-- ChibiMrBubbles 14:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if we can include a section about firmware versions. I'm not going to push the matter but I wanna hear others opinions.-- ChibiMrBubbles 20:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Well since we are having a new consensus, I'm going to put my two cents and say it belongs here on the Wii's systems page because some of the firmware functionality affects other things aside from the Wii's OS, such as adding AOSS on the internal WiFi menu settings. I also want to add that the Playstation 3 has it's own separate article for it's own firmware updates, not implying anything but giving suggestions for alternative resolutions.-- ChibiMrBubbles 21:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Discussions of moving the firmware to its own separate page should take place on the Wii Menu talk page.
Any references that we can add which estimate how much the Nintendo Wii costs to build? I'm curious to know if they are selling it at a loss (as was done with the Cube). - Theaveng 14:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the nintendo gamecube started out as a loss but, when it made a major price cut it made up for it. The wii costs very little to make but, it takes a little while to do. Nintendo has definitely found their niche with this console.--—Preceding unsigned comment added by Oasiyis ( talk • contribs) 03:55 8 November 2007
Unfortunately, since there is virtually no information on precisely *what* the Broadway CPU and Hollywood GPU are, there's a huge big gap left in trying to estimate the price. A lot of the other components can be judged in price; i.e, in quantities of 1,000, the accelerometers in the Wii Remote cost about $5US per. (though Nintendo, which has bought millions so far, certainly pays less for them) Likewise, one can estimate the cost of a 512miB GDDR3 module from Samsung, as it's identical to the RAM modules found in the Xbox 360, PS3, and a lot of modern video cards. You can tally up the prices of a lot of the components... But the GPU and CPU remain unknowns. I honestly can't say anything on the CPU, though if I were to take a guess, I'd think that the "Vegas" main die for the GPU would cost comparable to the RV530 that's found in ATi's Radeon X1600 series video cards; both are 90nm-process parts, and have roughly close to comparable surface area, and are designed by ATi. But then again, one COULD do all of this, but it would be original research if done for Wikipedia. Nottheking ( talk) 04:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I've recorded a video of two kids playing the Wii at the Wii Experience in Six Flags - Image:Wii_play.ogg. If the editors of this article want to add it, please do. ALTON .ıl 06:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
4.23 million + 3.47 million + 2+ million + 138,192 + 6 thousand ~= 10.7+ million. It should be 9.8+ million if you approximate the Aussie numbers to 100,000 and disregard New Zealand. So the question is how do we provide a source for this updated figure? Because clearly just by looking at the numbers and quickly adding them can lead to errors as happened here (whoever did this added the 100,000 as 1 million). And we can't just use "punch these #s into a calculator" as the source. But I don't think there is an actual source for this... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.125.60 ( talk) 18:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you think that this number would be better as it comes directly from nintendo? Also, if we leave it as is displaying the summed figure, how do we indicate that it is the sum of the previous numbers? -Mariokarter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.98.102.88 ( talk) 03:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
the article where it claims the wii is ahead of 360 shows strange numbers, that seem to be lower than either console should have sold, and seems to be innaccurate, i am not sure what it is based on. it calls the xbox 360 an xbox unit, and even if it were correct, shouldn't the page say "as of july" i really think the sold should say shipped for the 13 whatever million. these two numbers cant coexist... the wii sold 500k in sept, so does that mean it sold 3.5 mill in august? obviously there is a mistake here... somewhere. it isn't clear which of the two consoles is ahead, so neither should say the place, and the sold should be changed to shipped. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 11:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
upon actually reading the article i realize that the statement about the wii being in the lead definately needs a new source or to be removed. logically, it makes no sense. they use numbers from the end of july for the world (minus japan) and numbers from the end of august for japan. so the wii could have never been ahead at any point in time! example: pretend neither console had any sales. then in july the wii sells 500k worldwide. the xbox 360 sells 600k worldwide. in august the wii sells 500k worldwide (400k of which are in japan) xbox 360 sells 600k worldwide (12k in japan). If you add up the numbers the way they did, you get more wii sales than xbox 360 sales, but the xbox 360 outsold the wii EVERY MONTH! you would need to drop japan's august sales from each console for it to make sense. I could show that anything outsold anything if i only include certain regions. the article might as well only show japan's sales for every month. am i the only one that realizes that this article does not prove that the wii was ahead of the xbox 360 at any point in time? please make the appropriate corrections, or find the wii's japan numbers and subtract them from the 9 mill and see if it is still ahead on 8.9 mill, but even this is not very good, as the 9 mill and 8.9 mill are rounded. it may be 8.94 mill and 8.96 mill, and japan's august sales would only need to be 20k for the statement to be untrue (well 20K plus xbox 360's japan sales). then again it could be 8.95 mill minus 1 and 8.95 mill, and japan's auguest wii sales would only need to be one more than xbox 360 sales for it to be untrue. we might as well count only japan for 20 months and say the ps3 is ahead of the xbox 360... come on people, common sense shows that you cant only count japan for any period of time, especially considering the wii sells better there than anywhere, and the xbox 360 sells worse there than anywhere. end rant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 12:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I said that as an example, not fact. I am saying that you need proof and not just "it's safe to say" it is also safe to say that halo 3 has outsold gears of war, but there is no real proof. sure 14.8 million halo: ce + halo 2 units had been sold earlier this year, and now the total of the three is 20 million, but that doesn't mean that more than 4 million copies of halo 3 have been sold. If Nikkei says this than post the link. The link currently there has no proof that wii outsold 360. the math done to get 5.2 million halo 3's sold is MUCH more accurate than the math done to get more wii's than 360's have been sold. so why was the halo math dismissed but the wii math accepted? again, the example wasn't based on actual numbers, it was just showing how it is POSSIBLE (and very much so) that the wii never passed xbox 360 sales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 19:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
fine, if you remove that statement about the wii being in the lead, the link makes no sense. you cannot for any period of time only count one region. since i am signing this you have agreed to remove that statement. 142.165.59.39 19:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Link? this is wikipedia, not some site where you can make things up. post a link proving the wii outsold the xbox 360 in canada and the united states in august, and then the statement is proven true (not exactly, the rest of the world should be taken into account too, what you need to do is take worldwide august sales and subtract japan sales). but if you post a canada/us link for august wii vs xbox 360 numbers i will be satisfied 142.165.59.39 19:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
if these "confirmed numbers" exist then why is the link to a website using faulty numbers!
142.165.59.39 19:13, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
how do you not understand? the numbers are correct, but they do not prove that the wii has passed the xbox 360 in sales. see my example above. please not that my example is not meant to be true, but only show how the numbers don't really mean anything 142.165.59.39
the link posted here also uses JAPAN ONLY FOR AUGUST! so this is not accurate. I can say the ps3 is ahead of the xbox 360 is i only count japan for long enough of a time. at one point in time the wii has to be ahead of the xbox 360 for it to be proof. take worldwide sales as of the end of july, now add in japan sales for august. this puts wii ahead... so what? i can do funny math this way to prove anything. 142.165.59.39 19:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know whatever became of those crazy lawsuits against the Wii? Have they been dropped, or are they still ongoing? Seems odd because the article mentions them like they're all still current events. Nintenboy01 19:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Satoru Iwata mentions that the Wii is not a yet a success. Should this be mentioned at the reception, or in another article like his article page? Link for proof: [2] Magiciandude 18:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Financial Times states Wii is this generations best selling console in the known universe, despite coming a year after the 360 [ [3]] JayKeaton 21:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The NPD and Enterbrain Also report this. Its an extremely large feat, considering how all nintendo's best franchises hasn't even come out yet. (mario galaxy, brawl, etc) Should we change it? Blackbird3216 22:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
It isn't exclusive to itself. It's also in the sales section. And why does Dawillsta keep editing it? Blackbird3216 23:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the warning, but my 3rd "revision" was actually a new edit, so i won't get banned. If you want it rewritten, then you do it. Im used to writing stuff with alot of info —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackbird3216 ( talk • contribs) 00:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
The iPod article mentions it is a best seller as of a certain date. Wii being a best seller as of a certain date, which doesn't seem debatable, then I don't see a big problem with mentioning it in the lead. In fact, it seems like something that is perfectly suited for the lead JayKeaton 17:28, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Citation needed for "bold" statement - I am thinking about citing it with info from wikipedia. How do I do that? Is it even possible to cite a wiki article with another wiki article? Blackbird3216 02:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo and the Wii have been the top seller in NA for the entirety of 2007, since November 2006 in fact. I don't think the fact that the Wii has been outselling the competition is really debatable, and the fact that Wii is the best seller overall is more debatable, but not by much. There are no counterclaims to the Wii being the best selling console, other than "it is a controversial claim", which is not really good enough without something to back it up JayKeaton 13:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Someone should update the sales totals. Here is the link: http://wii.ign.com/articles/820/820098p1.html 72.43.140.148 14:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
I thought you would like to see this: [4]. Report from The Sun newspaper of the UK has stated that pensioners up to 103 years of age have been playing the Wii! Of course, I've added that in the demographics section.-- Alasdair 06:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey, i wanted to add this to the external links section. You can watch all Wii Commercials here. I was about to add it and then I saw the message saying I should bring it up on the talk page first, so i am :) Anyway, it's a good resource bc it's hard to find them on youtube or anywhere else. Anyway im adding it, but feel free to take it off if you dont think its a good resource -- JasonHanson 16:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
--Oh, sorry! -- JasonHanson 17:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
That is absurd. The official trademark for Microsoft windows is just "Windows"... perhaps we should also name that article to just "Windows" rather than the already named "Microsoft Windows"? There is no double standards, if Ms windows article is named "Microsoft Windows" although the trademark is only "Windows", then so should this article be named "Nintendo Wii". Im seriously starting to think that some Nintendo representatives are lurring around Wikipedia.-- 78.86.117.164 01:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, shouldn't this page be Nintendo Wii? Mick 96 08:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
There's currently appears to be a reversion conflict [5]. Which version is the correct one? -- Russoc4 17:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else want to experiment with unprotecting this article? The Placebo Effect 16:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
What is the current price on a Wii? I didn't see it in the article, and I thought it might be a good thing to add. BaldurtheGreat 18:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Pricing is a useful tool for comparing worldwide costs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.74.15 ( talk) 13:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Not alot of info is posted about this in the article. For example, it's storage capacity is not mentioned. Is it known? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.110.193.166 ( talk) 11:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
A semi-annual Earnings release is scheduled to be released by Nintendo in two weeks (October 25), according to http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html. Socby19 02:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
It should also be said that the system has sold 12 million copies. 10.7 copies bought and 12 million shipped, so altogether the system has sold 22.7 units so far. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.237.50.62 ( talk) 21:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
So they sold only 12 units so far? Including the untis that were shipped? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.237.50.62 ( talk) 02:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are all the images on the right hand side? It sort of looks silly having every single image to the extreme right, makes it seem less like an article. JayKeaton 13:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
The first generation of Nintendo Wii controllers are not safe, and have been responsible for broken TVs. Users are playing their favorite game and suddenly the remote strap breaks and flies into the TV, breaking the screen. The Wii wrist strap is too flimsy to handle all the intense motion of the hand. http://www.wiichat.com/nintendo-wii-articles/6700-nintendo-wii-launch.html
Another common problem that people have is getting carried away. It is posted all over the internet about people hitting things while playing Wii. Users need to remember to keep distance between them and their surroundings. http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.8.239.59 ( talk) 20:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo releasesed its latest financial report today. It has revealed that 13.17 million units have been sold as of September 30. I would have updated this myself, except that the sales are currently divided by specific regions, whereas the report only lists sales as Japan, The Americas, and Other. [6] - Zomic13 06:47, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have any data more recent than over 2 months ago? Some sources are saying the Wii has passed the 15 million mark. 142.177.27.18 02:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I am proposing a merge discussion on several Wii articles - the discussion to be, however, what to merge and where.
So, here's what I propose...
I just don't know where to. WiiConnect24 would probably be best here, while the second and third would obviously go to Wii Channel, but Wii Points would only fit in a Wii Shop Channel article, which became a redirect, and Wii Balance Board would go to Wii Fit, but not everyone agrees. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that most of those articles need to be merged. I'm indifferent about merging WiiConnect24 with Wii. I'd strongly oppose Everybody Votes and the Internet Channel being merged into something else as they're pretty much discrete pieces of software, albeit downloadable and labelled as 'channels'. As for Wii Points, Microsoft and Sony's alternatives also have their own articles. There's already been a discussion about whether Wii Balance Board and Wii Fit should be merged. To be honest, I really don't see why these articles should be merged just because they 'could' be squished into something else. They're all reasonably lengthy and are really subjects in their own right.
EvilRedEye 20:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Well I'd recommend starting a merge discussion on Wii Balance Board since the case for merging it seems to have some merit and it's probably best to discuss a merge on the talk page of the actual article affected. As for the two channels, they're clearly independently notable, even if they aren't 'well known'. I honestly don't see what merging them would achieve, since a summary about them already exists on Wii Menu. You'd effectively end up just deleting the articles. EvilRedEye 11:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
The Wii may or may not be in the lead, but the link does not prove that it ever was. The link uses sales up to July, and then Japan-only August sales. You can't for any period of time only count one region, especially not the Wii's best region and the Xbox 360's worst region. A new link needs to be provided or the statement removed. I tried explaining this in sales numbers, but those clowns have little to no idea how this works. Don't tell me the Wii also outsold the Xbox 360 in the US/Canada(in August), post a link. Maybe they will eventually post a link, but I got tired of waiting. It bothers me that this can get posted on Wikipedia without proper references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 ( talk) 19:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
those links are required after the statement in the article, at least to prove it (which it still really hasn't since europe isn't counted, but counting the usa is enough to satisfy me). thanks for the links... can the 1.5 mill of bioshock make it acceptable for the list of best selling video games under xbox 360? 142.165.59.39 20:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
clown statement retracted, rofl. even though the links you posted used estimates, and this is wikipedia, not estimatipedia. so it isn't really fair to use them to put wii in the lead. but you guys are all defensive of nintendo for some reason... the company isn't very good. the NES and SNES were good, the 64 was pretty good, but the cube is among the worst consoles ever made, and the wii is less powerful than my wristwatch. 142.165.59.39 20:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I see that my edit changing the sold to shipped has been reverted. This is one of those situations in which you wish you could change your edit summary. When I said that the source said shipped, I was going off of memory which was apparently wrong, however, I have an explanation. Over at Talk: History of video game consoles (seventh generation) it was explained to me very clearly that on financial reports, sold means shipped. Since it was so clear I will copy it to here:
In a company statement sold usually means to distributors or large retail chains, it does not indicate sell through to consumer. Due to things like price drops many times sold does not actually indicate that the manufacturer has even been paid for the product (this is why when a price drop occurs retailers don't generally lose the difference in price, they simply take the dropped price off of what they owe the manufacturer based on their remaining inventory). In the case of using financial statements, sold means shipped not sold to consumers. I'm going to edit my explanation a little further to clarify. Here is an example of when sales don't mean sales but shipped. In a company statement shortly after the launch of the Ngage Nokia announced that they had sold 400,000 units. Their definition of sold meant they were available to purchase in retail channels the actual number sold to consumers was shockingly low (under 20,000 worldwide at that point). MysteriousMystery 3:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I got these two things mixed up in my mind and said that the source said shipped. This comment is the reason that I changed the word sold to shipped in the sales table and the infobox. I also added the units sold parameter since both the PS3 and Xbox 360 articles use both. These three articles should probably be kept as similar as possible since a lot of people compare the three consoles through the articles. Also, the History of video game consoles (seventh generation) article uses the 13.17 number as a units shipped number(because of the comment by MysteriousMystery). That article should be kept in accordance with this article and since I felt that MysteriousMystery was right, I thought I should change this article rather than that one. I will wait until tomorrow for comments before changing the article again (unless the discussion goes in favor of change).-- Kyle( talk) 03:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I tried to add a reference to the Wii modchips, but this was instantly removed by Lamename3000 without him mentioning any reason. Is this some official stance? And if so, why is that? There is a page about modchips, and there are a specific page listing Wii modchips - interlinking to these seems correct, not to mention that modchipping these devices definitely is happening, always have been happing, and thus should be mentioned in an all-encompassing encyclopedia. Stolsvik 10:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Anamorphic refers to the way a digital video is transferred from film and has nothing to do with how a video game console displays an image. Nothing in reference #50 says anything about "anamorphic widescreen," only that the Wii is capable of 480p resolution through component cables. The reference to "anamorphic" is doubly improper considering that the Wii is not capable of playing DVD video. This should be removed immediately. KyuzoGator 04:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
I noticed that the article does not mention the Check Mii Out channel, and I am unable to edit it. Just letting you guys know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.148.20 ( talk) 22:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
"There are six primary channels: the Disc Channel, Mii Channel, Photo Channel, Wii Shop Channel, Forecast Channel and News Channel. The latter two were initially unavailable at launch, but activated through firmware updates."
Your right, but this part needs updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.148.20 ( talk) 22:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am a non-admin, but this article has Full Protection on it, and I think I know better.
The IPA did not have a Japanese pronunciation, which I think is /ɰii/ (quoted here without pitch instructions because I do not know the Japanese pitch accent), not /ˈwiː/ as in English.
... Consensus or not, you always forget that the Wii is a Japanese console ...
Llamagnu ( talk) 15:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC) Posted by Llamagnu on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:33 PM
I think you are getting way too anal if you want to argue about the pronunciation of "Wii". Just watch this Wii commercial
http://wii.nintendo.com/wiicommercials_index.jsp
It's not rocket surgery.
Asher196 (
talk) 02:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
This is rather sad, that you are arguing about it now. It's been universally agreed upon for ages, and Japanese Wii commercials pronounce Wii the same way as the English ones. It does not involve, nay, require that much insight. Luigi6138 ( talk) 02:50, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Maybe not always the case, but I'm usually easily amused by whatever sentence follows "I think I know better." This is a good example. Even a cursory reading of the page and archives makes me think this has been dealt with plenty of times before without the need for someone to just introduce original research with no sources. Epthorn ( talk) 13:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Nintendo have said they chose the name because it can be pronounced by anyone in the world. Wii is universal. There is only one way to pronounce it, and if you hear it differently then the person is either wrong or is talking with an accent. .:Alex:. 18:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Has Wii received any awards? as far as i know, it is nominated in the Media Arts Plaza awards. check http://plaza.bunka.go.jp/open/works.html for confirmation (yes, that's a Japanese page). Any other info for Wii's awards will be valuable info too. Boshiaki ( talk) 18:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
"AOSS support was discretely added in firmware update 3.0." Does this mean AOSS support was separately added (discretely) or quietly added (discreetly)? The reference cited would suggest the second spelling. -- 121.45.240.86 ( talk) 00:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible to organise Virtual Console games into their own respective console channels? I.e. N64 games into an N64 channel; SNES games into a SNES channel; etc. I've been told "it's not" on previous discussion boards, but the first image on the "Wii Menu" article shows both an N64 and NES channel. What's the story? -- Dark_Wolf101 ( talk) 21:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
The whole article of the wii doesn't state anything about how you move and it moves somebody PLEASE edit that! Littleperson 4:58pm eastern daylight army time:16:58 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleperson ( talk • contribs) 21:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
If you are referring to how you control game play with the Wii Remote, see the section titled "Wii Remote". Asher196 ( talk) 22:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to have my site http://www.newstendo.com added to the unofficial Wii links. We are officially recognized by Nintendo and several third parties as press and as such are provided product to review and access to their press servers and events. We often post exclusive news stories, reviews and editorials making this site is a valuable Wii resource.
Hokahey ( talk) 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)hokahey Hokahey ( talk) 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hokahey ( talk) 23:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Hokahey ( talk) 18:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)hokahey
Hi, What is the maximum screen size that the Wii can handle before the controllers stop working properly? I have a projector at home and I was wondering if the Wii would work for a really big screen.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cribe ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Asher196 ( talk) 23:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
The article currently states, "A Nintendo spokesperson has announced that the company plans to release a version of the console with DVD-Video playback capabilities in 2007." Has that happened? I did not notice any major announcements in game magazines or on TV and I was curious if that statement has proven accurate or if it has not in fact come into fruition. In either sense, we should update it accordingly. Best, -- Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 22:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I propose we add the Wii Classic Controller to the "controller input" section of the infobox. Some people disagree and have reverted me, but I don't understand the reason. It IS a controller. Nintendo's Wii site seems to agree with me. http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.jsp Asher196 04:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
On a tangent, shouldn't that bit be updated to include the Wii Balance Board? On the subject of the Classic Controller, I can imagine there being an endless list of expansions for the Wii Remote which would probably eventually just clutter the infobox. Perhaps change it slightly so that it reads " Wii Remote (expandable), Nintendo GameCube Controller"? EvilRedEye 17:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Another tangent: I don't recall "Nintendo GameCube Controller" being an official name, so I lowercased "controller". Just64helpin 18:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I happen to agree that we should keep the controller input as the way it is. If we put the Classic controller there, then, since it is a peripheral to the Wii Remote, we would need to add the nunchuck, and many other things as previously stated. FlamingZelda ( talk) 09:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
There is a reference to Jeff Gerstmann as a gamespot editor, it should maybe now read "former" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.46.162 ( talk) 04:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I've never actually been able to test it myself, but I was wondering, do multi-disc GCN games like Resident Evil 4 still work fine on the Wii when you need to swap discs? Nintenboy01 02:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The article states "Hackers have also reprogrammed the Wii Remote to control devices unrelated to the console through Wii homebrew."
The reference for the above is a newspaper article and I'm certain it's a case of lazy journalism as the remote is not reprogrammed. As I understand it, a driver is used on a computer which communicates with the remote (which is a bluetooth device that follows the HID standard). Then, either the driver itself or some software that interfaces with the driver, interprets the data received.
Does anyone have a better source that shows that the remote itself is reprogrammed? Hydrostatic ( talk) 13:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I learned this through this article, but apparently, in China, a clone of the Wii called the Vii is circulating. There are even knock off games for it. its even being advertised in magazines.. Is this notable to be included in the article (probably not including the sources I found)?
Some other sources:
Vii Pricing and Details Announced THROUGH FIRE JUSTICE IS SERVED! 03:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the origin of the great music on the commercials? Chris ( talk) 01:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 13:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Wii → Nintendo Wii' — Consistency with Nintendo 64 and Nintendo Gamecube. Also nintendo calls it the "Nintendo Wii" in absolutely all of their branding and we should use the official title. — ffroth 21:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
*'''Support'''
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. Since
polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account
Wikipedia's naming conventions.*Oppose. I'll just copy-paste a summary of what was discussed last time:
This has already been discussed (see Talk:Wii/Move to Nintendo Wii). Nintendo does not use "Nintendo Wii" in any of their branding, and has deliberately avoided "Nintendo Wii" in their advertising. Many other reasons to retain just "Wii" can be found at the link I provided. BTW, the correct name would be " Nintendo GameCube" with a capital "C". Just64helpin ( talk) 22:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The link in the sidebar under media for Wii Optical Disc and Nintendo GameCube Game Disc should both link to Nintendo optical discs 151.203.14.176 ( talk) 02:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
We now have a pop culture section again. What's the consensus for this? Just64helpin ( talk) 23:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I hated it and removed it. See WP:IPC Asher196 ( talk) 05:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
A whole bunch of new Wii information here and here.
For what the USBs on Wii are good? Just for USB KeyBoard and Ethernet Adapters? Can I use a USB HUB on that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.40.223.88 ( talk) 02:10, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
When listing new games representing Nintendo's flagship franchises, there is The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Animal Crossing, Pokémon, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart and Fire Emblem. Isn't Mario Kart a part of the Mario franchise? If it is it's own franchise (which I don't think it is) then wouldn't you have to list the Mario Party, Mario Strikers, Paper Mario, and other Mario Sport games for the Wii too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegargoylevine ( talk • contribs) 03:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
also, "The Wii console is Nintendo's smallest home unit to date" is not true. It is actually 2nd after the NES mk II —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.208.76 ( talk) 04:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
(To explain my edit...) One cannot add figures signifying 'sales to consumers' to figures signifying 'sales to retailers'. In Nintendo's financial statements, they list the latter. NDP Group, Enterbrain, and GfK report the former. I've renamed "sales" to "shipped" in the article so as to avoid further confusion.
Either we can switch the listings over to "sold" (as in sold to consumers) or we can keep it as shipped, but if we keep it as shipped, then the information cannot be updated until Nintendo releases its next financial statement. clicketyclick yaketyyak 18:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
The connection between the wii remote and the computer has been listed under the "user modifications" section of the article. In fact, neither the Wii nor the remote need to be modified to connect the wii remote to the computer. 81.132.55.8 ( talk) 15:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I think "hacking" should be left in the section, but I think the section title should be left as "User modification" as was originally put in by RC-0722. Burner0718 ( talk) 23:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, you did partially clarify my statement. I meant that RC-0722 originally CHANGED it to "User modification". Burner0718 ( talk) 03:06, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
How do you find out your friend code for the Wii.-- DarkFierceDeityLink 02:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I have found a newly-created, poorly written article about a Wii photo channel 1.1. I'm not sure if it exist, however if it does, do you guys think it is approriate to merge it into this article? -- Kannie | talk 16:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Good idea to merge it. Burner0718 ( talk) 03:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
I remember Nintendo said the Wii would come out in several different colors, E3 05 or 06 and I also saw a section on it here is it still going to happen-- 24.107.130.109 ( talk) 01:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
" Amazon.com sold Nintendo Wii systems at approximately 17 per second when they were in stock."-- Svetovid ( talk) 01:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Pistol__Wii16.aspx. -- DarkFierceDeityLink 03:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Section 2.3 says that the firmware update rendered some consoles completely unusable; I was one of the ones to get the 110213 error, complete with free replacement, but my console was still usable... all it did was keep me from using any online features (i.e., Shop Channel). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.246.149 ( talk) 21:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
"A distinguishing feature of the console is its wireless controller, the Wii Remote, which can be used as a handheld pointing device and can detect acceleration in three dimensions. Another is WiiConnect24, which enables it to receive messages and updates over the Internet while in standby mode."
Is WiiConnect24 really worthy of being mentioned as a key feature of the console in the second paragraph of the article. Seems like a pretty small thing to me. If I had to select distinguishing feature of the Wii, apart from the Wii Remote, it would be the Virtual Console service. 211.30.178.132 ( talk) 06:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I am aware what WiiConnect24 is, but it is a pretty insignificant feature in overall terms. Like, when people think of the Wii as a console do you think they think "Hey, that's the console with the revolutionary remote pointer thing. And oh, yeah, I read that it can connect to the internet in a standby mode!!". Anyway, you fanboys do what you want. 60.242.117.74 ( talk) 01:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Sure, it's distinguishing, but it's trivial and not worth listing that early in the article. 58.172.187.10 ( talk) 13:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
As of Sept 30th 07 was 3 months ago,it should have been updated, the X360 has been updated to Jan 08 but nither the Wii or PS3 sales have been updated. Both say "As of September 30th 2007", while the 360 is "As of Jan 02 2008", I concer that they both should be updated but I cannot find it on Nintendo's (Or Sony's for the PS3) sales fiques. This doesnt count the Black Friday sales or the recent surge for both in Japan. Ive attempted to find it other places on other sites but they are all for late 06' and early 07'. This has been bugging me, as Peter Griffon says You know what relly grinds my gears Lol. I don;t got time to search all the pages so some Wiki nerd (Jokking!) can search hard or listen to the news for the new sales figures. 'THANKS' Mr.Deathhawk ( talk) 23:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
The new wii consoles sold during the 2007 holiday season ship with clear rubberized 'jackets' for the wii remotes. The new version of wii play, which is bundled with a wii remote, also comes with this rubberized jacket. The wii firmware has also been updated to remind users to use these jackets to reduce the possibility of damage to their television sets as well as damage to the remotes themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdbry ( talk • contribs) 08:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Not sure if it's notable for inclusion, but here's a neat little study. Mahanga Talk 17:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC) [10]
I think the Wii article needs full prtoection. It seems to get vandalised regulary.Like this morning for example, anyone who read the article at about 9.30 will know what I mean, thankfully its now been tided up. However i think it needs full protection, at least for a period of a month or so. Then we can see if any vandalism is attempted again. Gartheknight (talk) 09:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)