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The song by Mitski appears to have enough coverage to make it notable and I don't think there's a PDAB primary topic. I've redirected the target to the main dab page for now. —
Amakuru (
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11:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The question is whether it's notable or not, rather than whether there's an article... I see some sources giving the song coverage, therefore it might be notable. —
Amakuru (
talk)
22:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
No, according to
WP:SONGDAB, "unless more than one article about songs of the same name exist, there is no need to disambiguate any further." This is a well-established naming convention.
162 etc. (
talk)
22:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisting comment: I'd like to see further evidence to show that the song by Mitski is or is not the primary topic before closing.
Bensci54 (
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16:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
Wife cannot be the primary topic for "Wife (song)", because the subject of the article
Wife is not a song.
jlwoodwa (
talk)
06:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
My relisting comment was regarding if there is a valid primary topic for
Wife (song). Is it the Mitski song, or the (G)i-dle song? Per
WP:PRIMARYRED (invoked by Crouch, Swale above), if the Mitski song is the primary topic for
Wife (song), then
Wife (song) needs to redirect to the album article. If it is not (i.e. there is no primary topic between the two, or the (G)I-dle song is primary), then the requested move should be carried out per
WP:SONGDAB as it would be out of the scope of
WP:PRIMARYRED. That's my take on the situation and why I requested more discussion regarding primary topic.
Bensci54 (
talk)
19:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Regarding the situation where there is no primary topic, in my opinion the RFC-backed consensus at
WP:SONGDAB would have more weight than
WP:PRIMARYRED, although it is clear that these two guidelines do conflict in this instance.
Bensci54 (
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14:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)reply
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The song by Mitski appears to have enough coverage to make it notable and I don't think there's a PDAB primary topic. I've redirected the target to the main dab page for now. —
Amakuru (
talk)
11:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
The question is whether it's notable or not, rather than whether there's an article... I see some sources giving the song coverage, therefore it might be notable. —
Amakuru (
talk)
22:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
No, according to
WP:SONGDAB, "unless more than one article about songs of the same name exist, there is no need to disambiguate any further." This is a well-established naming convention.
162 etc. (
talk)
22:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Relisting comment: I'd like to see further evidence to show that the song by Mitski is or is not the primary topic before closing.
Bensci54 (
talk)
16:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
Wife cannot be the primary topic for "Wife (song)", because the subject of the article
Wife is not a song.
jlwoodwa (
talk)
06:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
My relisting comment was regarding if there is a valid primary topic for
Wife (song). Is it the Mitski song, or the (G)i-dle song? Per
WP:PRIMARYRED (invoked by Crouch, Swale above), if the Mitski song is the primary topic for
Wife (song), then
Wife (song) needs to redirect to the album article. If it is not (i.e. there is no primary topic between the two, or the (G)I-dle song is primary), then the requested move should be carried out per
WP:SONGDAB as it would be out of the scope of
WP:PRIMARYRED. That's my take on the situation and why I requested more discussion regarding primary topic.
Bensci54 (
talk)
19:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Regarding the situation where there is no primary topic, in my opinion the RFC-backed consensus at
WP:SONGDAB would have more weight than
WP:PRIMARYRED, although it is clear that these two guidelines do conflict in this instance.
Bensci54 (
talk)
14:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.