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Gregory has asserted that he was born in the UK. This means he isn't a Jamaican by birth. I'm fairly certain that both of his parents were British citizens, because if either one had been a Jamaican citizen when he was born, he would simply point that out. If he had been nationalized as a Jamaican before returning to the UK, he could also point that out. Finally, he was not a resident of Jamaica he became notable. Therefore, per the guideline, we list "British" not "British Jamaican". This doesn't mean he isn't Jamaican culturally, as he was a resident there in the formative years of his life, as he has explained in the sources cited in the article. But he's not Jamaican in a legal sense.
BilCat (
talk) 01:49, 18 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
BilCat: Ok, clearly you missed the entire point of what I said in my edit summary. The fact of the matter is that White Yardie is in fact both BRITISH and JAMAICAN. He holds both countries' nationalities. He clearly stated this himself in source #1. Next, I did not write "British Jamaican", I wrote "British-Jamaican". This is extremely differnet. "British Jamaican" implies something else, while "British-Jamaican" purely denotes someone who holds both British and Jamaican citizenship. This is undisputable. Conclusion: White Yardie has himself said that he is both legally British and legally Jamaican, "in a legal sense" like you said— I mean, the man has a Jamaican passport.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 03:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
If you could self-revert that would be lovely. I appreciate it.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 03:29, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I've never heard him say he has a Jamaican passport, which is what my reverts were based on. If you'll give me the address on his website that says that, I'll look at it and see if it qualifies as a reliable source.
BilCat (
talk) 03:35, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Sure. This
right here is a clip from the Channel 4 interview mentioned in the article. It was posted by the official White Yardie YouTube channel. If you skip to 1:45, the lady in orange asks, "Harry, do you have a Jamaican passport?" to which White Yardie responds "Yes I do".
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 23:45, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Ok, thanks. That's good enough for me, but be aware that others might challenge it as an unreliable source, since it's solely his claim with no supporting documentation.
BilCat (
talk) 04:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)reply
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"In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory, where the person is currently a citizen, national, or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was a citizen, national, or permanent resident when the person became notable."
Gregory has asserted that he was born in the UK. This means he isn't a Jamaican by birth. I'm fairly certain that both of his parents were British citizens, because if either one had been a Jamaican citizen when he was born, he would simply point that out. If he had been nationalized as a Jamaican before returning to the UK, he could also point that out. Finally, he was not a resident of Jamaica he became notable. Therefore, per the guideline, we list "British" not "British Jamaican". This doesn't mean he isn't Jamaican culturally, as he was a resident there in the formative years of his life, as he has explained in the sources cited in the article. But he's not Jamaican in a legal sense.
BilCat (
talk) 01:49, 18 June 2023 (UTC)reply
@
BilCat: Ok, clearly you missed the entire point of what I said in my edit summary. The fact of the matter is that White Yardie is in fact both BRITISH and JAMAICAN. He holds both countries' nationalities. He clearly stated this himself in source #1. Next, I did not write "British Jamaican", I wrote "British-Jamaican". This is extremely differnet. "British Jamaican" implies something else, while "British-Jamaican" purely denotes someone who holds both British and Jamaican citizenship. This is undisputable. Conclusion: White Yardie has himself said that he is both legally British and legally Jamaican, "in a legal sense" like you said— I mean, the man has a Jamaican passport.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 03:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
If you could self-revert that would be lovely. I appreciate it.
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 03:29, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
I've never heard him say he has a Jamaican passport, which is what my reverts were based on. If you'll give me the address on his website that says that, I'll look at it and see if it qualifies as a reliable source.
BilCat (
talk) 03:35, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Sure. This
right here is a clip from the Channel 4 interview mentioned in the article. It was posted by the official White Yardie YouTube channel. If you skip to 1:45, the lady in orange asks, "Harry, do you have a Jamaican passport?" to which White Yardie responds "Yes I do".
Paul Vaurie (
talk) 23:45, 4 October 2023 (UTC)reply
Ok, thanks. That's good enough for me, but be aware that others might challenge it as an unreliable source, since it's solely his claim with no supporting documentation.
BilCat (
talk) 04:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)reply