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I clearly saw the Miami Dolphins, Joey Porter specifically, being killed by the Japanese. It's pretty notable if a sports franchise, especially if they had the only ever perfect season including the postseason. The 1989 Denver Broncos were in Cartman's Mom is a Dirty Slut and Cartman's Mom is Still a Dirty Slut as possible fathers to Eric Cartman. So I'd consider the Miami Dolphins pretty notable.
Where is the reviews, real-world data, and sources which establish notability? Cheers! Scapler ( talk) 05:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Alright, sources added now. Cheers! Scapler ( talk) 18:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Until there is enough secondary material on the use of the Lady Gaga song, there is no need to simply list that it appears in the episode. I know that Cartman uses the music to sing lyrics relevant to the plot, but until there is enough verifiable information to include a "production" or substantial "music" section, it will have to wait per MOS:TV#Things to avoid. Have patience..."Wikipedia isn't going anywhere". As for the Smashing Pumpkins song...naturally it would appear in this episode as it directly spoofs a show with the same song as its theme. Again, this can be included once there is relevant content. - SoSaysChappy ( talk) 09:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Bullet with Butterfly Wings has been added and readded many times by many different users over the past few days (the week after the episode airs). At what point does consensus trump the claim that this isn't something worth noting? That Whale Wars uses the song as it's theme is useful context information that helps explain an aspect of the episode that sticks out. Even WP:Trivia says trivia is only discouraged, rather than needing to be deleted, does similar logic not apply to just formatting this information in the best way possible and leaving it there rather than constantly deleting something many editors wish to have included? -- Horkana ( talk) 05:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought navigation boxes were deprecated? The episode infobox already includes links to next and previous episodes. Not deleting it without a link to a relevant discussion or guidelines - no sense wasting time on a revert war - anyone got a suitable link? If so please delete and include link explaining why in edit summary. Too many rules, too little time, who can remember them all, and then they change. -- Horkana ( talk) 17:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia doesn't do "Goofs" but if it did this might actually be worth including
I put in the line about Larry King calling Watson a media whore which is a critical line in the show as it ties the plot to the title of the episode. Are people removing it because the line is offensive? South Park is such a pleasant non-confrontational show why should we be concerned about using quotations? Alatari ( talk) 07:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
The photograph of Paul Watson used in this episode of South Park was made by photojournalist Jerod Harris and is represented by ZUMA Press Wire Service on October 9th, 2009 at the Surfrider Foundation's 25th Annual Gala at Exposition Park in Los Angeles, California. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.229.127 ( talk) 00:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
The diff here recommends linking stinky butter to butyric acid. The show never mentions any type of acid, so I am against this linking. Also, without context, linking to butyric acid doesn't make any sense. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 17:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll just ask one thing to put things in perspective the best I can.... If you were writing a summary for "Dead Celebrities", and were describing a scene from the episode: "The ghost hunter urinates in his pants", would you link "urinates in his pants" to ectoplasm? - SoSaysChappy ( talk) 17:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
For the record another editor added the explanation as part of the plot text, it was deleted and I agree it wasn't the best way to present it but thought the information relevant and informative helping give context and expanding my understanding of the concept like a good encyclopedia would do. I'm not overly concerned about how exactly the information be included in the article but I do think it should be included one way or another. -- Horkana ( talk) 19:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
There are many edits by anonymous IP's making major changes of the article without discussion or consensus. Page protection? Alatari ( talk) 18:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I see the one IP was directly blocked. Seemed we are all a bunch of 'wankers' Alatari ( talk) 18:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I tried to add the template for protection against vandalism but apparently that isn't how you request protection. I'd suggest only protecting it for a short time, would protecting it for a day be enough? Maybe a week since the first broadcast in the UK is coming up? Is the new "flagged revisions" system an option? -- Horkana ( talk) 19:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the article mentioned that the Marshes were celebrating Stan's ninth birthday. As there are no citations that specifically credit this as his ninth birthday, I feel that it categorises as speculation rather than fact and should just be referred to as his birthday. Also, as South Park follows a floating timeline, it would be a lot better to avoid age references at all costs, unless there are specific references provided. Grieferhate ( talk) 22:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
A hidden comment in the plot summary requested that it be more compliant with WP:PLOTSUM.
Here is the summary as of this post. After I...
...I came up with this...
Would this work? I would also suggest removing the Enola Gay screenshot from the summary and using it as a replacement for the image that is currently in the infobox. Thoughts? - SoSaysChappy (talk) 08:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
There are two lines in the "Theme" section (I know this is "Plot," but it's related) that are simply wrong. In the second paragraph, the second and third sentences read "Watson has received wide criticism for his method of disrupting illegal whale hunts by at times attacking and sinking Japanese and Norwegian whaling ships. 'Whale Whores' presents Watson and his show in a way that condemns these actions and other forms of eco-terrorism." In no way does the episode "Whale Whores" condemn "eco-terrorism," or even suggests that prior to Stan Marsh's captaincy, that the Sea Shepards did anything remotely "terroristic." After all, this paragraph goes on to quote a fictitious magazine article from Whale Whores titled "New Captain Turns Vegan Pussies Into Real Pirates." REGARDLESS of what some people think of what the Sea Shepards may have done, the Sea Shepards in "Whale Whores" are non-violent--incompetent, but still non-violent, until Stan takes over. And when Stan becomes a pirate ie "eco-terrorist," the show presents that change of Sea Shepard tactics as an unqualified improvement. I would propose that those two sentences just be deleted (probably they're just Japanese & Norwegian propaganda--I'm kidding). Bill Abendroth ( talk) 10:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
The episode isn't about the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's about reality TV and cultural differences between east and west. Kakun ( talk) 20:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Reviewer: CTJF83 chat 00:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
That's it! CTJF83 chat 04:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
japanese say "ikura". This mean is "How much ?" Dolphin is "iruka". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.54.107.183 ( talk) 19:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I thought they were making fun of the Japanese by simply showing them going all insane even in a water park. Then they hunted for whales in all of these other places, I didn't think it was 'the reality between whaling and looking at whales for amusement'.
The problem I have with reference 5 is that to highlight an opinion as fact, you reference a blog with someones opinion. Unless it comes from the mouths of the writers themselves, I doubt it. Don't mean to come off as a dick, but I deleted that part. 71.190.248.53 ( talk) 08:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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I clearly saw the Miami Dolphins, Joey Porter specifically, being killed by the Japanese. It's pretty notable if a sports franchise, especially if they had the only ever perfect season including the postseason. The 1989 Denver Broncos were in Cartman's Mom is a Dirty Slut and Cartman's Mom is Still a Dirty Slut as possible fathers to Eric Cartman. So I'd consider the Miami Dolphins pretty notable.
Where is the reviews, real-world data, and sources which establish notability? Cheers! Scapler ( talk) 05:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Alright, sources added now. Cheers! Scapler ( talk) 18:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Until there is enough secondary material on the use of the Lady Gaga song, there is no need to simply list that it appears in the episode. I know that Cartman uses the music to sing lyrics relevant to the plot, but until there is enough verifiable information to include a "production" or substantial "music" section, it will have to wait per MOS:TV#Things to avoid. Have patience..."Wikipedia isn't going anywhere". As for the Smashing Pumpkins song...naturally it would appear in this episode as it directly spoofs a show with the same song as its theme. Again, this can be included once there is relevant content. - SoSaysChappy ( talk) 09:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Bullet with Butterfly Wings has been added and readded many times by many different users over the past few days (the week after the episode airs). At what point does consensus trump the claim that this isn't something worth noting? That Whale Wars uses the song as it's theme is useful context information that helps explain an aspect of the episode that sticks out. Even WP:Trivia says trivia is only discouraged, rather than needing to be deleted, does similar logic not apply to just formatting this information in the best way possible and leaving it there rather than constantly deleting something many editors wish to have included? -- Horkana ( talk) 05:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought navigation boxes were deprecated? The episode infobox already includes links to next and previous episodes. Not deleting it without a link to a relevant discussion or guidelines - no sense wasting time on a revert war - anyone got a suitable link? If so please delete and include link explaining why in edit summary. Too many rules, too little time, who can remember them all, and then they change. -- Horkana ( talk) 17:11, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia doesn't do "Goofs" but if it did this might actually be worth including
I put in the line about Larry King calling Watson a media whore which is a critical line in the show as it ties the plot to the title of the episode. Are people removing it because the line is offensive? South Park is such a pleasant non-confrontational show why should we be concerned about using quotations? Alatari ( talk) 07:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
The photograph of Paul Watson used in this episode of South Park was made by photojournalist Jerod Harris and is represented by ZUMA Press Wire Service on October 9th, 2009 at the Surfrider Foundation's 25th Annual Gala at Exposition Park in Los Angeles, California. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.229.127 ( talk) 00:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
The diff here recommends linking stinky butter to butyric acid. The show never mentions any type of acid, so I am against this linking. Also, without context, linking to butyric acid doesn't make any sense. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 17:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I'll just ask one thing to put things in perspective the best I can.... If you were writing a summary for "Dead Celebrities", and were describing a scene from the episode: "The ghost hunter urinates in his pants", would you link "urinates in his pants" to ectoplasm? - SoSaysChappy ( talk) 17:44, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
For the record another editor added the explanation as part of the plot text, it was deleted and I agree it wasn't the best way to present it but thought the information relevant and informative helping give context and expanding my understanding of the concept like a good encyclopedia would do. I'm not overly concerned about how exactly the information be included in the article but I do think it should be included one way or another. -- Horkana ( talk) 19:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
There are many edits by anonymous IP's making major changes of the article without discussion or consensus. Page protection? Alatari ( talk) 18:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I see the one IP was directly blocked. Seemed we are all a bunch of 'wankers' Alatari ( talk) 18:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I tried to add the template for protection against vandalism but apparently that isn't how you request protection. I'd suggest only protecting it for a short time, would protecting it for a day be enough? Maybe a week since the first broadcast in the UK is coming up? Is the new "flagged revisions" system an option? -- Horkana ( talk) 19:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the article mentioned that the Marshes were celebrating Stan's ninth birthday. As there are no citations that specifically credit this as his ninth birthday, I feel that it categorises as speculation rather than fact and should just be referred to as his birthday. Also, as South Park follows a floating timeline, it would be a lot better to avoid age references at all costs, unless there are specific references provided. Grieferhate ( talk) 22:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
A hidden comment in the plot summary requested that it be more compliant with WP:PLOTSUM.
Here is the summary as of this post. After I...
...I came up with this...
Would this work? I would also suggest removing the Enola Gay screenshot from the summary and using it as a replacement for the image that is currently in the infobox. Thoughts? - SoSaysChappy (talk) 08:33, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
There are two lines in the "Theme" section (I know this is "Plot," but it's related) that are simply wrong. In the second paragraph, the second and third sentences read "Watson has received wide criticism for his method of disrupting illegal whale hunts by at times attacking and sinking Japanese and Norwegian whaling ships. 'Whale Whores' presents Watson and his show in a way that condemns these actions and other forms of eco-terrorism." In no way does the episode "Whale Whores" condemn "eco-terrorism," or even suggests that prior to Stan Marsh's captaincy, that the Sea Shepards did anything remotely "terroristic." After all, this paragraph goes on to quote a fictitious magazine article from Whale Whores titled "New Captain Turns Vegan Pussies Into Real Pirates." REGARDLESS of what some people think of what the Sea Shepards may have done, the Sea Shepards in "Whale Whores" are non-violent--incompetent, but still non-violent, until Stan takes over. And when Stan becomes a pirate ie "eco-terrorist," the show presents that change of Sea Shepard tactics as an unqualified improvement. I would propose that those two sentences just be deleted (probably they're just Japanese & Norwegian propaganda--I'm kidding). Bill Abendroth ( talk) 10:01, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
The episode isn't about the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's about reality TV and cultural differences between east and west. Kakun ( talk) 20:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Reviewer: CTJF83 chat 00:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
That's it! CTJF83 chat 04:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
japanese say "ikura". This mean is "How much ?" Dolphin is "iruka". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.54.107.183 ( talk) 19:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I thought they were making fun of the Japanese by simply showing them going all insane even in a water park. Then they hunted for whales in all of these other places, I didn't think it was 'the reality between whaling and looking at whales for amusement'.
The problem I have with reference 5 is that to highlight an opinion as fact, you reference a blog with someones opinion. Unless it comes from the mouths of the writers themselves, I doubt it. Don't mean to come off as a dick, but I deleted that part. 71.190.248.53 ( talk) 08:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC)