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Among the enhancements awaited are significantly more references. Gallador ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Figures have been edited by an IP used by a known vandale, User:205.188.116.74. Please vet the changes. -- Wetman 06:35, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There has been changes in the demarcation of local municipalities and no mention is made that "local" muncipalities are grouped together into six "district" muncupalities. More info can be found at Municipal Demarcation Board and offical Weastern Cape government source . I attempted to start the process at Western Cape Province but links from that page need to be modified and the template at the bottom as well. So this should be a bottom-up edit and not top-down, and the local-municipal pages need to be changed/moved first. -- Warpedshadow 15:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
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After the long debate about whether or not to call Cape Town, City of Cape Town... I have another! :) What's everyone's view on using the word Province for all the provinces? It looks odd to me, and I know I'd never say 'Western Cape Province' or 'Gauteng Province'. They're just Western Cape, Gauteng, Mpumalanga etc. Joziboy 15 March 2006, 20:06 (UTC)
Hmm, I wouldn't say Limpopo Province either. Prepositions usually clear up any confusion - "I'm going to Limpopo", "What's the capital of Limpopo?", "We have a house in Limpopo" all make it sound like it's the province. Else it would be the Limpopo. But yeah, I suppose it's not the end of the world either way. It just looks odd - we don't call South Africa "South Africa Country" :) Anyways, option 3 sounds good to me. Joziboy 16 March 2006, 15:13 (UTC)
Yup, count me in on #3 as well. I would very, very rarely add "province" when referring to any of our provinces. dewet| ™ 15:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I've copied this discussion to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming, as it would seem to be more correct to have it there. - htonl 18:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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I read that Western Cape broke with the national government on President Thabo Mbeki's policy of AIDs denial, significantly reducing death and infection rates compared to the rest of the country. I haven't found further references. Who was responsible for defying national policy? Were there repercussions? With more references, I might suggest including something on this issue, though I can't say where it would best fit. SpaceToast ( talk) 16:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
The same way Lower Canada gave birth to QUEBEC Western South Africa will give birth to AFRIKAANSLAND with Afrikaans as the official language and driving thousands of Afrikaans-speaking South Africans to Afrikaansland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.24.243.144 ( talk) 15:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The first part of the introduction is accurate enough. However to say that "the Western Cape set itself apart early in post-apartheid South African history by being one of the two provinces to have rejected an ANC mandate" is overly political, and rather irrational. There was nothing automatic about ANC rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 03:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
The population figures for Cape Town are not updated with figures from the 2011 census [1] and do not reflect the proper demographics of the Western Cape population. Similarly, the page mentions that that Somerset West has a population of over 100 000 and Strand 50 000, when both of these have since being incorporated into the City of Cape Town municipality and thus are counted in the Cape Town population and should not be classified as cities on their own. I would suggest this page be updated with the correct population statistics. Sandelk ( talk) 15:55, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
The Xhosa translation of "Western Cape" provided in the English article is different from the translation in the Afrikaans and Dutch articles. I don't speak Xhosa, but it would be nice if anyone who does could fix it. 191.184.68.209 ( talk) 17:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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Did my best to break up the "Geography" section into bite-(not byte!)-sized, easily digestible portions with headings in bold. And rearranged some of the information. Also added an extra diagram to illustrate the information presented in the text. Hope this helps. Oggmus ( talk) 15:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the topographical map of the south-western corner of South Africa originally had the borders of the province superimposed on it. But going back into the history of the article I cannot find it. Could someone with the appropriate skills please draw those borders onto that map please. The "Geography" section would make a lot more sense if that were to happen. Oggmus ( talk) 15:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I now notice that User:Htonl's topological map does trace out the Province's boundaries, but they are almost invisible even when the map is viewed full size. So I have redrawn that map with a more emphasized boundary line, which, to my mind, looks better and is more informative, and in line with the text. Oggmus ( talk) 11:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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It seems somewhat strange that the history of Western Cape, if you read this article, only dates from the 1960s. Did nothing ever happen in what was to become the current province prior to that decade? Skinsmoke ( talk) 17:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
While this is something we could reasonably cover we are going to need some third party sources (ie something other than the parties and campaign groups themselves) before we do so. ©Geni ( talk) 22:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for my ignorance, I'm quite new to adding information on Wikipedia. Why would third party resources be necessary? The paragraph only described the movement in of itself, describing the opinions that these parties and campaign groups hold. How could sources directly from these groups themselves then be considered inaccurate or inappropriate? So we would require third party articles describing their ideologies and the movement, but not something that comes directly out of the mouths of those supporting it? The media coverage on the movement is quite scarce so it might be hard to find sources fully describing it without input from a supporter. CapingThroughTheBlue ( talk) 08:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
I see a anonymous user once again added the section I wrote yesterday just as I was sending my message here. I'd like to be clear that this is not my doing, I want to respect the rules and culture of the website. If the paragraph is inadequate, I'm happy to make the appropriate changes for it to be on the article.
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Hi Geni, thank you for your response. I added new sources, are they more appropriate? CapingThroughTheBlue ( talk) 13:59, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I am not convinced that this should exist as a section of its own on this article. If we look at articles on provinces with similar independence movements (such as Catalonia and Quebec) this topic is referred to briefly in the introduction and expanded on in either/or both the history and politics sections of the article. I propose that we reform this article to meet the same format as those on article pages for provinces with similar movements in them.-- Discott ( talk) 17:43, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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Look at the page of the 2022 SA census for more info, in short, census takers were not able to count accurately in the west cape, due to a myriad of reasons, the undercount is as much as freaking 31% percent!! So the demographics for the west cape are going to be pretty inaccurate, and it will be better to use the 2011 census. DirkjanenBert ( talk) 21:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
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Among the enhancements awaited are significantly more references. Gallador ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Figures have been edited by an IP used by a known vandale, User:205.188.116.74. Please vet the changes. -- Wetman 06:35, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
There has been changes in the demarcation of local municipalities and no mention is made that "local" muncipalities are grouped together into six "district" muncupalities. More info can be found at Municipal Demarcation Board and offical Weastern Cape government source . I attempted to start the process at Western Cape Province but links from that page need to be modified and the template at the bottom as well. So this should be a bottom-up edit and not top-down, and the local-municipal pages need to be changed/moved first. -- Warpedshadow 15:44, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Note: this discussion has been moved to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming. Please add any new comments there.
After the long debate about whether or not to call Cape Town, City of Cape Town... I have another! :) What's everyone's view on using the word Province for all the provinces? It looks odd to me, and I know I'd never say 'Western Cape Province' or 'Gauteng Province'. They're just Western Cape, Gauteng, Mpumalanga etc. Joziboy 15 March 2006, 20:06 (UTC)
Hmm, I wouldn't say Limpopo Province either. Prepositions usually clear up any confusion - "I'm going to Limpopo", "What's the capital of Limpopo?", "We have a house in Limpopo" all make it sound like it's the province. Else it would be the Limpopo. But yeah, I suppose it's not the end of the world either way. It just looks odd - we don't call South Africa "South Africa Country" :) Anyways, option 3 sounds good to me. Joziboy 16 March 2006, 15:13 (UTC)
Yup, count me in on #3 as well. I would very, very rarely add "province" when referring to any of our provinces. dewet| ™ 15:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
I've copied this discussion to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming, as it would seem to be more correct to have it there. - htonl 18:54, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Note: this discussion has been moved to Talk:Provinces of South Africa#Province article naming. Please add any new comments there.
I read that Western Cape broke with the national government on President Thabo Mbeki's policy of AIDs denial, significantly reducing death and infection rates compared to the rest of the country. I haven't found further references. Who was responsible for defying national policy? Were there repercussions? With more references, I might suggest including something on this issue, though I can't say where it would best fit. SpaceToast ( talk) 16:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
The same way Lower Canada gave birth to QUEBEC Western South Africa will give birth to AFRIKAANSLAND with Afrikaans as the official language and driving thousands of Afrikaans-speaking South Africans to Afrikaansland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.24.243.144 ( talk) 15:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The first part of the introduction is accurate enough. However to say that "the Western Cape set itself apart early in post-apartheid South African history by being one of the two provinces to have rejected an ANC mandate" is overly political, and rather irrational. There was nothing automatic about ANC rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 ( talk) 03:14, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
The population figures for Cape Town are not updated with figures from the 2011 census [1] and do not reflect the proper demographics of the Western Cape population. Similarly, the page mentions that that Somerset West has a population of over 100 000 and Strand 50 000, when both of these have since being incorporated into the City of Cape Town municipality and thus are counted in the Cape Town population and should not be classified as cities on their own. I would suggest this page be updated with the correct population statistics. Sandelk ( talk) 15:55, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
The Xhosa translation of "Western Cape" provided in the English article is different from the translation in the Afrikaans and Dutch articles. I don't speak Xhosa, but it would be nice if anyone who does could fix it. 191.184.68.209 ( talk) 17:37, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi everybody. On behalf of the teams behind the Wikipedia Primary School research project, I would like to announce that this article was selected a while ago to be reviewed by an external expert. We'd now like to ask interested editors to join our efforts and improve the article before March 31, 2015 (any timezone) as they see fit; a revision will be then sent to the designated expert for review. Any notes and remarks written by the external expert will be made available on this page under a CC-BY-SA license as soon as possible, so that you can read them, discuss them and then decide if and how to use them. Please sign up here to let us know you're collaborating. Thanks a lot for your support! Elitre (WPS) ( talk) 14:26, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi all. As anticipated, some weeks ago Mrs. Asta Adukaite ( University of Lugano) agreed to review this article within the scope of the project linked above. You can find her notes in the PDF I just uploaded to Commons. We'd like to thank Mrs. Adukaite for her work and for her helpful notes. We invite everybody to feel free to reuse the review to improve the article and/or to comment it here. Best, -- Elitre (WPS) ( talk) 11:18, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Did my best to break up the "Geography" section into bite-(not byte!)-sized, easily digestible portions with headings in bold. And rearranged some of the information. Also added an extra diagram to illustrate the information presented in the text. Hope this helps. Oggmus ( talk) 15:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the topographical map of the south-western corner of South Africa originally had the borders of the province superimposed on it. But going back into the history of the article I cannot find it. Could someone with the appropriate skills please draw those borders onto that map please. The "Geography" section would make a lot more sense if that were to happen. Oggmus ( talk) 15:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I now notice that User:Htonl's topological map does trace out the Province's boundaries, but they are almost invisible even when the map is viewed full size. So I have redrawn that map with a more emphasized boundary line, which, to my mind, looks better and is more informative, and in line with the text. Oggmus ( talk) 11:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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It seems somewhat strange that the history of Western Cape, if you read this article, only dates from the 1960s. Did nothing ever happen in what was to become the current province prior to that decade? Skinsmoke ( talk) 17:46, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
While this is something we could reasonably cover we are going to need some third party sources (ie something other than the parties and campaign groups themselves) before we do so. ©Geni ( talk) 22:00, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for my ignorance, I'm quite new to adding information on Wikipedia. Why would third party resources be necessary? The paragraph only described the movement in of itself, describing the opinions that these parties and campaign groups hold. How could sources directly from these groups themselves then be considered inaccurate or inappropriate? So we would require third party articles describing their ideologies and the movement, but not something that comes directly out of the mouths of those supporting it? The media coverage on the movement is quite scarce so it might be hard to find sources fully describing it without input from a supporter. CapingThroughTheBlue ( talk) 08:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
I see a anonymous user once again added the section I wrote yesterday just as I was sending my message here. I'd like to be clear that this is not my doing, I want to respect the rules and culture of the website. If the paragraph is inadequate, I'm happy to make the appropriate changes for it to be on the article.
CapingThroughTheBlue (
talk) 08:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi Geni, thank you for your response. I added new sources, are they more appropriate? CapingThroughTheBlue ( talk) 13:59, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I am not convinced that this should exist as a section of its own on this article. If we look at articles on provinces with similar independence movements (such as Catalonia and Quebec) this topic is referred to briefly in the introduction and expanded on in either/or both the history and politics sections of the article. I propose that we reform this article to meet the same format as those on article pages for provinces with similar movements in them.-- Discott ( talk) 17:43, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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Look at the page of the 2022 SA census for more info, in short, census takers were not able to count accurately in the west cape, due to a myriad of reasons, the undercount is as much as freaking 31% percent!! So the demographics for the west cape are going to be pretty inaccurate, and it will be better to use the 2011 census. DirkjanenBert ( talk) 21:34, 17 October 2023 (UTC)