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The X-Men live there. It probably seems too trivial a thing to mention, but I bet more people since 1963 would recognize Westchester, NY from that than from anything else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.227.77.90 ( talk) 05:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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Some of the places in the "Cities and Towns" section are villages. Some are not cities, towns or villages. Some are even misidentified as such in their Wikipedia pages, which presumably were culled from U.S. Census data. This map, from Westchester County's official site shows the cities, towns and villages:
http://www.westchestergov.com/planning/research/Census2000/MunicipalProfiles/mun.htm.
Correct city, town and village info can be found here:
http://www.westchestergov.com/planning/research/DataBookPDF01/Population.pdf. This shows certain errors, incuding the fact that Mount Kisco is a town/village in its own right, not a village divided between two towns and that Hartsdale is not a village of Greenburgh (it actually would fall unedr the "Greenburgh TOV" designation.)
:The two above, unsiged comments are mine. I have conformed the cities, town and villages to the referenced PDF file. I have added hamlet names from
http://www.townlink.com/community_web/. I still need to go through the individual pages, as many hamlets are listed as towns, an error on the part of the the Census bureau or the bot programmer.
Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 17:47, Apr 3, 2004 (UTC)
The article text implies that the towns of Harrison, Mt Kisco and Scarsdale have residents in the towns outside of the villages of the same name. ("With the exception of the towns of Rye and Pelham, all the towns contain area and residents which do not belong to any village.") But elsewhere in the text (and in the list of municipalities), the article states that these three towns are coterminous with their respective villages. One or the other of these statements must be wrong.-- 68.199.33.181 18:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is the pic of Philipsburg Manor located under Long Island Sound when Sleepy Hollow is located on the Hudson? Rskurat ( talk) 06:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I do believe that the stereotypical image of Westchester must be evaluated here; however, this cannot be done without facts and numbers. This article tells me that the county is demographically and economically diverse. These statements are hollow without statistics, preferably some that compare this diversity to other regions. I'm sure there have been some studies done on this. Of course, if nothing can be found then the section must be dropped, having no certain truth to offer. Omphaloscope » talk 07:33, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a place in this article for something like neighborhoods? For example, Crestwood is a neighborhood of Tuckahoe, but it has its own stop on the Metro-North Harlem Line railroad. Just asking. -- Fbv 65 e del ( discuss | contribs) 21:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Given the extensive nature of this article I think it would be worthwhile to include a section for Speical Act Districts. I know Greenburg Eleven (located on the Children's Village campus in Dobbs Ferry) is an example. I haven't added it however because I don't know if others exist.
I reverted this article back to before this edit, as it appears to have introduced a large amount of text that was a copyright violation from http://www.westchestergov.com. -- Mwanner | Talk 02:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't we at least mention the Westchester County Department of Public Safety in the here? -- Rayyung 02:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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The history section is disproportionately about the sections which became the Bronx. Someone should balance this out with information about the rest of the county, or else the section should be considerably shortened. SarahLawrence Scott ( talk) 17:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be a difference in opinion between me and Ed Fitzgerald as to how to proceed in improving this section. I would appreciate any feedback that others have. SarahLawrence Scott ( talk) 18:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm not sure if I'm following common practice in discussion, but I received a message that a link I added was against editing protocol. I am a reporter with Home Town Media Group (www.hometwn.com), which publishes five print newspapers along the Sound Shore. The New Rochelle Public Information Officer emailed my boss and suggested we add links to our new sites here in the media section. I realize now that may have been a conflict of interest and I see a great deal of discussion goes into these, but we feel that we are five legitimate community publications that should be included here. Does anyone have any suggestions about where I should go from here? Thanks. Apr2003 ( talk) 22:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
The discussion below moved here from my
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Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (
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22:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I saw that you undid my revert of the links to westchestertowns.com on Westchester County, New York. I feel that these links are being used to promote this website. I have removed these links a number of time and a number of them always seem to reappear. Furthermore, the fact that multiple links to the same site are added at the same time indicate to me that they are added for promotion. Wikipedia's external link policy states that links should normally be avoided if they "mainly intended to promote a website." I am open to your input on this subject and I think the links should be removed. Please feel free to discuss this here. -- 24fan24 ( talk) 21:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Basically all of the edits of 68.198.203.213 ( talk · contribs) were to westchestertowns.com links to various pages. -- 24fan24 ( talk) 21:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also all of these edits have been to add this site to Westchester County, New York: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] -- 24fan24 ( talk) 21:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, I don't see what you have against the websites. I was unfamiliar with this editor's past history, or any conflict with him, but I found the sites to be informative and useful. I see no harm in allowing them. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk/ cont) 22:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Further, I would prefer that this discussion take place on the discussion page for Westchester County rather than here. Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk/ cont) 22:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Tell me, do you plan to do through Wikipedia and delete every link to IMDB? After all, that's a commercial website, which carries a great deal of advertising. The test should be about the usefullness of these sites, and in my perusal of them, I've found them to have useful information as well as a convenient set of links to town and village site, school districts, etc. There's demographic information as well, all rather conveniently available. In the absence of a compelling argument to keep the deleted (which I haven't seen yet -- spamming seems to be the only charge, and where would you expect a website about Westchester to put its links?), I will restore at least one link to this site, after I take a look and see which one is the most useful. If you hsve an argument to make against that course of action, please feel free to make it -- I'll hold off for a while.
Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (
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23:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I lean toward including at least some links to this site. There is considerable demographic information on the individual communities given there, which would seem to fall under the part of the external link policy that indicates "what should be linked":
"Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons."
SarahLawrence Scott ( talk) 02:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I represent WestchesterTowns.com. Although we do have a few ads in order to cover our website expenses, WestchesterTowns.com is mostly a non-profit community based information resource for Westchester residents. More than 80% of our information is about community topics such as Town Libraries, Town websites, Colleges and Universities, School Districts, Health information, Post Offices and much more. This information is presented in a clear and consise format that is not readily available anywhere else. It has taken several years to compile this information and we update regularly to reflect changes such as a school closing.
Many Westchester residents have sent emails thanking us for the "extensive content" of our website. I apologize if I've re-added this information - but because of the nature and importance of links such as: Libraries, Colleges & Universities, Our special Interactive Map of Westchester County, Hospitals, Emergency information and more - I believed my links were deleted in error. I did not read or see any requests to not add our information - until tonight. Many websites referenced in Wikipedia have loud flashing ads - We do not. Our ads are quiet, subtle and confined to a small area of the page. Any pages we have added to Wikipedia have contained relevant and important information. We promote many important topics such as Local and Organic Farming, Pesticide Prevention, Children's Educational "approved" websites, Local Historic Sites, History of each town and much more. Our new Demographics Section contains important data regarding the Environment such as Air Pollution, Waste Sites, Clean Water ... We are currently writing extensive information on Environmental Issues and how to go "Green" in Westchester. We strongly promote working together to clean our environment. I hope that you will reconsider your removal of our links.
The reason there are multiple links to www.WestchesterTowns.com is that our information is organized by community and town; each town having its own Home Page. We therefore provided links to the appropriate areas. We have over 1000 pages of research and information. We added a very small percentage that we believe has added value to the Wikipedia sections as they relate to Westchester.
Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to a favorable reply. Gail
JonChuckles (
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08:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with all of the Wikipedia mechanisms for this, but it seems to me like what should happen, voluntarily if possible, is that all users associated with the sites should refrain from adding their links, but that their sites should be removed from the blacklist. I have no connection with the westchestertowns.com site, but I do think it is the kind of thing that can and should be provided as a link from the various town pages. So, Gail, would you agree to not repost your links yourselves if they are unblacklisted? Do you have a mechanism where you can ask others associated with your website to also refrain? If so, I'd happily start adding links that I thought were appropriate to some of the articles, and I suspect others not connected to your site would do the same. This would then be consistent with
Wikipedia's external link policy...in essence, I think that it is appropriate to have links to your site, but it is not appropriate for someone connected to your site to place them. The same would be true, by the way, for a site like IMDB.
SarahLawrence Scott (
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19:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
westchestertowns.com single purpose accounts:
Combined edit history:
-- A. B. (talk) 22:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Justifiably Blacklisted, supported by evidence and facts. Arguments being made such as"
WP:USEFUL" do not make for exemption of official Wikipedia policy as outlined above. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so many useful things that do not belong in an encyclopedia are excluded. Wikipedia is NOT a "
repository of links" or a "
vehicle for advertising". Wikipedia policy is quite clear here;
External links policy on
Advertising and conflicts of interest states You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. This blacklisting is a clear result of
WP:SPA (
WP:SOCK) accounts and a
WP:COI IP's being employed for the sole purpose to
Spam WestchesterTowns.com and to self-promote SmartCard Consultancy, Inc. . SmartCard Consultancy, Inc. has clearly illustrated a situation where a single company is using Wikipedia to promote for their own interests (Adsense pub-9665591883320014). Perhaps Whitelisting on a "case by case" basis is best for Wikipedia at this point, However, whitelisting should only be implemented where it is demonstrated as a source, in an appropriate context. Which in this case, WestchesterTowns.com probably fails
WP:RS --
Hu12 (
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18:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not quite clear on how the Wikipedia policies interact in this area. It's crystal clear to me that the accounts that have been adding the westchestertowns links should stop doing that. But it seems odd to jump from that to blacklisting the site. There are a lot of ads on it, and perhaps it's valid to blacklist it for that reason, but that's a separate issue, related to the site and not to spamming. As far as appropriateness to Wikipedia, it's pages like westchestertowns.com/htm/zip/Zip10570.html that I think are highly appropriate to be linked to an encyclopedia article. If someone can suggest somewhere else where all that demographic information is gathered in one place I'd be happy to link to that instead. But if they assembled that data from different sources, that seems like exactly the kind of information that people accessing the Wikipedia article might want, but that would be too extensive to include in the article itself. So a hypothetical: suppose someone at a major commercial site like IMDB was dumb enough to start spamming Wikipedia. Would that mean we blacklist IMDB? Who's the loser in that case, the site or the Wikipedia users? (I don't mean to be picking on IMDB; they just seem to have been the running example in this discussion.)
SarahLawrence Scott (
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21:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello.
The staff at www.WestchesterTowns.com has been advised to refrain from adding any additional links or information to any Wiki site.
I do not know how a warning turned into a blacklist of www.WestchesterTowns.com? In any event, please take the time to read the following:
School District Section. We received several requests from our user base for information about the Westchester School Districts. I myself spent extensive time and effort in researching and compiling our School District Section. We present our School District information in a format that is much needed by the Westchester Community. There are many towns and communities in which the schools are part of various districts. I am not aware of another source that presents this information in our format. Our data is organized and readily accessible and was tailored to requests made by our Westchester visitors. We have had many emails thanking us for this section. It is one of the sections that was added to Wikipedia - and subsequently removed from Wikipedia?
Another area that I myself researched and compiled is our "History And Antiquities" (bottom of page) www.westchestertowns.com/htm/lnk/Link0513.html. This section covers a general collection of interesting facts, traditions, biographical sketches, and anecdotes about Westchester County and its towns. Population statistics and events have not been revised to reflect current events and perspective. We think this adds to the historical flavor and interest of the writings, giving a different perspective on much of this information and written in an "older world" writing style. This information was sourced from a book: "Historical Collections" written approximately 200 years ago and published 50 years later.
Regarding data that is sourced from other research websites - we credit the website from which this data is compiled and also provide a link to the original website.
During the past three years I have compiled, researched, and verified much of the content in www.WestchesterTowns.com. We are in control of our data and take responsibility for its content. If there are errors, we encourage our visitors to let us know and we promptly correct the page.
Gail JonChuckles ( talk) 04:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, spcover here. My comment has nothing to do with WestchesterTowns.com, with which I am familiar. But I do represent Westchester.com and added it to the list of Media several months ago, only to stop by today and see it had been removed. I'm not smart enough to see how or why it was removed, but I just wanted to let you know that I added it back today. If you consider that spamming, then please go right ahead and delete the link. I understand these philosophical debates. On the other hand, before you do, I'd ask you to visit our site. Westchester.com publishes over 100 news articles every month, all from press release submissions sent to us by local non-profit organizations, small businesses, and county/local government offices. Our business directory contains over 1,300 free listings, half of which were reader-submitted and the other half collected by myself years ago before we went online in our current format in May 2004. Our event calendar system is user-generated and contains many local events. We have an email newsletter subscription of over 2,100 local readers. A lot of work goes into the site and we take ourselves and our editorial integrity very seriously. Online news publications are often overlooked as fly-by-night operations. In our case, we have a small part-time staff and have been around for several years. I've been doing it in different forms since 1998. We consider ourselves a news organization and so do our readers. I hope you won't confuse us with the likes of WestchesterTowns.com. Our content is completely user-generated or submitted to us by approved sources. Our link is not to spam the Wiki, but to allow us equal footing with more traditional media outlets. If you delete us, I'll understand. I would only ask that you post the reason here, so I can understand why. Thanks much.
Spcover ( talk) 20:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
All those densely populated villages in southern Westchester are high income areas but Mount Kisco and Peekskill in northern Westchester are less wealthy. But this paints an erroneous picture of the northern part of the county as less wealthy. Look at the average income in 10506 or 10576. They are full of large lots and many grand estates. The north is famous in fact for that countryside, and to characterize it by the few villages isn't very representative. Speaking of southern Westchester, what about Yonkers, a poor city? 72.89.83.11 ( talk) 23:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I put
File:WestchesterGov logo.gif back here since it is the actual logo of Westchester County Government. --
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02:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
This article is about Westchester County, NY, and I'm a little confused about the photograph of Grand Central Terminal in the Transportation Section. Grand Central Terminal does not pertain to Westchester County, and the photo should be deleted and replaced with a photo of arrivals and departures at a train station like White Plains, which is the geographic hub of Westchester County.
Anthony22 ( talk) 02:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick note--I updated the page to reflect that Hillary Clinton was now the Secretary of State, not a Senator, and to clarify some relations amongst various people sharing the same last name. Not sure why this was tagged as vandalism. Any issues, please discuss here. Thanks! 66.208.17.254 ( talk) 14:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what this sentence means: "Westchester became the first large scale suburban area in the world to develop." Is there an objective definition of "large scale"? Or indeed "develop"? Think we may need a source from this - again, an objective one as it sounds like the sort of banal, vacuous crap that local authorities publish to encourage investment. Tsuguya ( talk) 04:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Here is a source about it Callahan, Tom. " On Prison's Little Acre, Time Is Well Spent." The New York Times. July 11, 1993 WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the name Westchester first appeared in writing in reference to the areas now known as the Bronx and Westchester? What did the Dutch call the area, especially north of Bronck's farm? DCDuring ( talk) 14:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Do things like "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" count as popular culture? If so, Sleepy Hollow is in Westchester and should be mentioned. (2 Jan 2014) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.95.185.193 ( talk) 18:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
This section needs quite a bit of work. It really doesn't meet most of the standards as set forth in MOS:BEGIN in MOS:LEAD. I've copy-edited what is there, but it still needs act as a stand-alone summary of the subsequent article. Onel5969 ( talk) 13:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Do you prefer the infobox like this or like this? I support the second one, which is the standard for most counties across the U.S. and looks sleeker, and has a map at the top instead of a big gray bar. The edit to that was reverted on the grounds of needing consensus, so please discuss the change below. Rcsprinter123 (rap) @ 22:14, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I recently uploaded the photomontage of various locations throughout the county to the infobox, replacing the previous photo of a street in White Plains (I am not sure which one). It has been brought to my attention by ɱ that at least one user prefers the former photo. I, myself, greatly prefer a montage, whether it be the one I created or another, because Westchester is a tremendously diverse county. As residents surely are aware, each city, town, village, and hamlet has its own unique and noticeable identity. It is of course recognized that no montage of a reasonable size could possibly accommodate each of these municipalities nor give a comprehensive depiction of Westchester County. That, however, is not the function of a montage. It is to exhibit an array of eclectic examples that are notable in their own rights and, in aggregate, give a flavor for the county. Therefore, I would like to lay out my justification of each of the photos I selected for inclusion in the montage:
I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks of the matter. Ergo Sum ( talk) 16:43, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
The following material was deleted on 1 July 2018 by Ɱ:
Westchester County ranks #8 among the top 10 counties with the wealthiest people in the United States. [1]
The ostensible reason for the arbitrary deletion of material of excellent provenance (CNBC) was: "Income ranking already listed. Keep it to the US Census, update as needed, provide dates," as if there were space constraints or as if different ways of looking at data were not useful. XavierItzm ( talk) 20:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
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8. Westchester, New York Average annual income of the top one percent: $4,326,049
Recently, a new section called Health was created. Currently, the only thing in it is a paragraph about the COVID-19 pandemic. As it stands, it is unreferenced. I think we should develop some consensus on how to treat COVID-19 in this article. I don't think it deserves its own section, since this is an overview article of the county, and that strikes me as recentism. Do others have thoughts on what should and should not be included? Ergo Sum 00:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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Are you sure Westchester County has mostly a humid subtropical climate?
because white plains seems to have a humid continental climate for example. דולב חולב ( talk) 13:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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The X-Men live there. It probably seems too trivial a thing to mention, but I bet more people since 1963 would recognize Westchester, NY from that than from anything else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.227.77.90 ( talk) 05:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
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Some of the places in the "Cities and Towns" section are villages. Some are not cities, towns or villages. Some are even misidentified as such in their Wikipedia pages, which presumably were culled from U.S. Census data. This map, from Westchester County's official site shows the cities, towns and villages:
http://www.westchestergov.com/planning/research/Census2000/MunicipalProfiles/mun.htm.
Correct city, town and village info can be found here:
http://www.westchestergov.com/planning/research/DataBookPDF01/Population.pdf. This shows certain errors, incuding the fact that Mount Kisco is a town/village in its own right, not a village divided between two towns and that Hartsdale is not a village of Greenburgh (it actually would fall unedr the "Greenburgh TOV" designation.)
:The two above, unsiged comments are mine. I have conformed the cities, town and villages to the referenced PDF file. I have added hamlet names from
http://www.townlink.com/community_web/. I still need to go through the individual pages, as many hamlets are listed as towns, an error on the part of the the Census bureau or the bot programmer.
Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 17:47, Apr 3, 2004 (UTC)
The article text implies that the towns of Harrison, Mt Kisco and Scarsdale have residents in the towns outside of the villages of the same name. ("With the exception of the towns of Rye and Pelham, all the towns contain area and residents which do not belong to any village.") But elsewhere in the text (and in the list of municipalities), the article states that these three towns are coterminous with their respective villages. One or the other of these statements must be wrong.-- 68.199.33.181 18:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Why is the pic of Philipsburg Manor located under Long Island Sound when Sleepy Hollow is located on the Hudson? Rskurat ( talk) 06:54, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
I do believe that the stereotypical image of Westchester must be evaluated here; however, this cannot be done without facts and numbers. This article tells me that the county is demographically and economically diverse. These statements are hollow without statistics, preferably some that compare this diversity to other regions. I'm sure there have been some studies done on this. Of course, if nothing can be found then the section must be dropped, having no certain truth to offer. Omphaloscope » talk 07:33, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Is there a place in this article for something like neighborhoods? For example, Crestwood is a neighborhood of Tuckahoe, but it has its own stop on the Metro-North Harlem Line railroad. Just asking. -- Fbv 65 e del ( discuss | contribs) 21:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Given the extensive nature of this article I think it would be worthwhile to include a section for Speical Act Districts. I know Greenburg Eleven (located on the Children's Village campus in Dobbs Ferry) is an example. I haven't added it however because I don't know if others exist.
I reverted this article back to before this edit, as it appears to have introduced a large amount of text that was a copyright violation from http://www.westchestergov.com. -- Mwanner | Talk 02:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't we at least mention the Westchester County Department of Public Safety in the here? -- Rayyung 02:49, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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The history section is disproportionately about the sections which became the Bronx. Someone should balance this out with information about the rest of the county, or else the section should be considerably shortened. SarahLawrence Scott ( talk) 17:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be a difference in opinion between me and Ed Fitzgerald as to how to proceed in improving this section. I would appreciate any feedback that others have. SarahLawrence Scott ( talk) 18:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm not sure if I'm following common practice in discussion, but I received a message that a link I added was against editing protocol. I am a reporter with Home Town Media Group (www.hometwn.com), which publishes five print newspapers along the Sound Shore. The New Rochelle Public Information Officer emailed my boss and suggested we add links to our new sites here in the media section. I realize now that may have been a conflict of interest and I see a great deal of discussion goes into these, but we feel that we are five legitimate community publications that should be included here. Does anyone have any suggestions about where I should go from here? Thanks. Apr2003 ( talk) 22:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
The discussion below moved here from my
talk page.
Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (
talk/
cont)
22:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I saw that you undid my revert of the links to westchestertowns.com on Westchester County, New York. I feel that these links are being used to promote this website. I have removed these links a number of time and a number of them always seem to reappear. Furthermore, the fact that multiple links to the same site are added at the same time indicate to me that they are added for promotion. Wikipedia's external link policy states that links should normally be avoided if they "mainly intended to promote a website." I am open to your input on this subject and I think the links should be removed. Please feel free to discuss this here. -- 24fan24 ( talk) 21:29, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Basically all of the edits of 68.198.203.213 ( talk · contribs) were to westchestertowns.com links to various pages. -- 24fan24 ( talk) 21:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also all of these edits have been to add this site to Westchester County, New York: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] -- 24fan24 ( talk) 21:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Frankly, I don't see what you have against the websites. I was unfamiliar with this editor's past history, or any conflict with him, but I found the sites to be informative and useful. I see no harm in allowing them. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk/ cont) 22:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Further, I would prefer that this discussion take place on the discussion page for Westchester County rather than here. Thanks. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) ( talk/ cont) 22:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Tell me, do you plan to do through Wikipedia and delete every link to IMDB? After all, that's a commercial website, which carries a great deal of advertising. The test should be about the usefullness of these sites, and in my perusal of them, I've found them to have useful information as well as a convenient set of links to town and village site, school districts, etc. There's demographic information as well, all rather conveniently available. In the absence of a compelling argument to keep the deleted (which I haven't seen yet -- spamming seems to be the only charge, and where would you expect a website about Westchester to put its links?), I will restore at least one link to this site, after I take a look and see which one is the most useful. If you hsve an argument to make against that course of action, please feel free to make it -- I'll hold off for a while.
Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (
talk/
cont)
23:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I lean toward including at least some links to this site. There is considerable demographic information on the individual communities given there, which would seem to fall under the part of the external link policy that indicates "what should be linked":
"Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons."
SarahLawrence Scott ( talk) 02:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I represent WestchesterTowns.com. Although we do have a few ads in order to cover our website expenses, WestchesterTowns.com is mostly a non-profit community based information resource for Westchester residents. More than 80% of our information is about community topics such as Town Libraries, Town websites, Colleges and Universities, School Districts, Health information, Post Offices and much more. This information is presented in a clear and consise format that is not readily available anywhere else. It has taken several years to compile this information and we update regularly to reflect changes such as a school closing.
Many Westchester residents have sent emails thanking us for the "extensive content" of our website. I apologize if I've re-added this information - but because of the nature and importance of links such as: Libraries, Colleges & Universities, Our special Interactive Map of Westchester County, Hospitals, Emergency information and more - I believed my links were deleted in error. I did not read or see any requests to not add our information - until tonight. Many websites referenced in Wikipedia have loud flashing ads - We do not. Our ads are quiet, subtle and confined to a small area of the page. Any pages we have added to Wikipedia have contained relevant and important information. We promote many important topics such as Local and Organic Farming, Pesticide Prevention, Children's Educational "approved" websites, Local Historic Sites, History of each town and much more. Our new Demographics Section contains important data regarding the Environment such as Air Pollution, Waste Sites, Clean Water ... We are currently writing extensive information on Environmental Issues and how to go "Green" in Westchester. We strongly promote working together to clean our environment. I hope that you will reconsider your removal of our links.
The reason there are multiple links to www.WestchesterTowns.com is that our information is organized by community and town; each town having its own Home Page. We therefore provided links to the appropriate areas. We have over 1000 pages of research and information. We added a very small percentage that we believe has added value to the Wikipedia sections as they relate to Westchester.
Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to a favorable reply. Gail
JonChuckles (
talk)
08:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not familiar with all of the Wikipedia mechanisms for this, but it seems to me like what should happen, voluntarily if possible, is that all users associated with the sites should refrain from adding their links, but that their sites should be removed from the blacklist. I have no connection with the westchestertowns.com site, but I do think it is the kind of thing that can and should be provided as a link from the various town pages. So, Gail, would you agree to not repost your links yourselves if they are unblacklisted? Do you have a mechanism where you can ask others associated with your website to also refrain? If so, I'd happily start adding links that I thought were appropriate to some of the articles, and I suspect others not connected to your site would do the same. This would then be consistent with
Wikipedia's external link policy...in essence, I think that it is appropriate to have links to your site, but it is not appropriate for someone connected to your site to place them. The same would be true, by the way, for a site like IMDB.
SarahLawrence Scott (
talk)
19:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
westchestertowns.com single purpose accounts:
Combined edit history:
-- A. B. (talk) 22:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Justifiably Blacklisted, supported by evidence and facts. Arguments being made such as"
WP:USEFUL" do not make for exemption of official Wikipedia policy as outlined above. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so many useful things that do not belong in an encyclopedia are excluded. Wikipedia is NOT a "
repository of links" or a "
vehicle for advertising". Wikipedia policy is quite clear here;
External links policy on
Advertising and conflicts of interest states You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. This blacklisting is a clear result of
WP:SPA (
WP:SOCK) accounts and a
WP:COI IP's being employed for the sole purpose to
Spam WestchesterTowns.com and to self-promote SmartCard Consultancy, Inc. . SmartCard Consultancy, Inc. has clearly illustrated a situation where a single company is using Wikipedia to promote for their own interests (Adsense pub-9665591883320014). Perhaps Whitelisting on a "case by case" basis is best for Wikipedia at this point, However, whitelisting should only be implemented where it is demonstrated as a source, in an appropriate context. Which in this case, WestchesterTowns.com probably fails
WP:RS --
Hu12 (
talk)
18:49, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not quite clear on how the Wikipedia policies interact in this area. It's crystal clear to me that the accounts that have been adding the westchestertowns links should stop doing that. But it seems odd to jump from that to blacklisting the site. There are a lot of ads on it, and perhaps it's valid to blacklist it for that reason, but that's a separate issue, related to the site and not to spamming. As far as appropriateness to Wikipedia, it's pages like westchestertowns.com/htm/zip/Zip10570.html that I think are highly appropriate to be linked to an encyclopedia article. If someone can suggest somewhere else where all that demographic information is gathered in one place I'd be happy to link to that instead. But if they assembled that data from different sources, that seems like exactly the kind of information that people accessing the Wikipedia article might want, but that would be too extensive to include in the article itself. So a hypothetical: suppose someone at a major commercial site like IMDB was dumb enough to start spamming Wikipedia. Would that mean we blacklist IMDB? Who's the loser in that case, the site or the Wikipedia users? (I don't mean to be picking on IMDB; they just seem to have been the running example in this discussion.)
SarahLawrence Scott (
talk)
21:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello.
The staff at www.WestchesterTowns.com has been advised to refrain from adding any additional links or information to any Wiki site.
I do not know how a warning turned into a blacklist of www.WestchesterTowns.com? In any event, please take the time to read the following:
School District Section. We received several requests from our user base for information about the Westchester School Districts. I myself spent extensive time and effort in researching and compiling our School District Section. We present our School District information in a format that is much needed by the Westchester Community. There are many towns and communities in which the schools are part of various districts. I am not aware of another source that presents this information in our format. Our data is organized and readily accessible and was tailored to requests made by our Westchester visitors. We have had many emails thanking us for this section. It is one of the sections that was added to Wikipedia - and subsequently removed from Wikipedia?
Another area that I myself researched and compiled is our "History And Antiquities" (bottom of page) www.westchestertowns.com/htm/lnk/Link0513.html. This section covers a general collection of interesting facts, traditions, biographical sketches, and anecdotes about Westchester County and its towns. Population statistics and events have not been revised to reflect current events and perspective. We think this adds to the historical flavor and interest of the writings, giving a different perspective on much of this information and written in an "older world" writing style. This information was sourced from a book: "Historical Collections" written approximately 200 years ago and published 50 years later.
Regarding data that is sourced from other research websites - we credit the website from which this data is compiled and also provide a link to the original website.
During the past three years I have compiled, researched, and verified much of the content in www.WestchesterTowns.com. We are in control of our data and take responsibility for its content. If there are errors, we encourage our visitors to let us know and we promptly correct the page.
Gail JonChuckles ( talk) 04:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, spcover here. My comment has nothing to do with WestchesterTowns.com, with which I am familiar. But I do represent Westchester.com and added it to the list of Media several months ago, only to stop by today and see it had been removed. I'm not smart enough to see how or why it was removed, but I just wanted to let you know that I added it back today. If you consider that spamming, then please go right ahead and delete the link. I understand these philosophical debates. On the other hand, before you do, I'd ask you to visit our site. Westchester.com publishes over 100 news articles every month, all from press release submissions sent to us by local non-profit organizations, small businesses, and county/local government offices. Our business directory contains over 1,300 free listings, half of which were reader-submitted and the other half collected by myself years ago before we went online in our current format in May 2004. Our event calendar system is user-generated and contains many local events. We have an email newsletter subscription of over 2,100 local readers. A lot of work goes into the site and we take ourselves and our editorial integrity very seriously. Online news publications are often overlooked as fly-by-night operations. In our case, we have a small part-time staff and have been around for several years. I've been doing it in different forms since 1998. We consider ourselves a news organization and so do our readers. I hope you won't confuse us with the likes of WestchesterTowns.com. Our content is completely user-generated or submitted to us by approved sources. Our link is not to spam the Wiki, but to allow us equal footing with more traditional media outlets. If you delete us, I'll understand. I would only ask that you post the reason here, so I can understand why. Thanks much.
Spcover ( talk) 20:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
All those densely populated villages in southern Westchester are high income areas but Mount Kisco and Peekskill in northern Westchester are less wealthy. But this paints an erroneous picture of the northern part of the county as less wealthy. Look at the average income in 10506 or 10576. They are full of large lots and many grand estates. The north is famous in fact for that countryside, and to characterize it by the few villages isn't very representative. Speaking of southern Westchester, what about Yonkers, a poor city? 72.89.83.11 ( talk) 23:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I put
File:WestchesterGov logo.gif back here since it is the actual logo of Westchester County Government. --
RayYung (
talk)
02:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
This article is about Westchester County, NY, and I'm a little confused about the photograph of Grand Central Terminal in the Transportation Section. Grand Central Terminal does not pertain to Westchester County, and the photo should be deleted and replaced with a photo of arrivals and departures at a train station like White Plains, which is the geographic hub of Westchester County.
Anthony22 ( talk) 02:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick note--I updated the page to reflect that Hillary Clinton was now the Secretary of State, not a Senator, and to clarify some relations amongst various people sharing the same last name. Not sure why this was tagged as vandalism. Any issues, please discuss here. Thanks! 66.208.17.254 ( talk) 14:56, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what this sentence means: "Westchester became the first large scale suburban area in the world to develop." Is there an objective definition of "large scale"? Or indeed "develop"? Think we may need a source from this - again, an objective one as it sounds like the sort of banal, vacuous crap that local authorities publish to encourage investment. Tsuguya ( talk) 04:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Here is a source about it Callahan, Tom. " On Prison's Little Acre, Time Is Well Spent." The New York Times. July 11, 1993 WhisperToMe ( talk) 17:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone know when the name Westchester first appeared in writing in reference to the areas now known as the Bronx and Westchester? What did the Dutch call the area, especially north of Bronck's farm? DCDuring ( talk) 14:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Do things like "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" count as popular culture? If so, Sleepy Hollow is in Westchester and should be mentioned. (2 Jan 2014) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.95.185.193 ( talk) 18:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
This section needs quite a bit of work. It really doesn't meet most of the standards as set forth in MOS:BEGIN in MOS:LEAD. I've copy-edited what is there, but it still needs act as a stand-alone summary of the subsequent article. Onel5969 ( talk) 13:57, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Do you prefer the infobox like this or like this? I support the second one, which is the standard for most counties across the U.S. and looks sleeker, and has a map at the top instead of a big gray bar. The edit to that was reverted on the grounds of needing consensus, so please discuss the change below. Rcsprinter123 (rap) @ 22:14, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I recently uploaded the photomontage of various locations throughout the county to the infobox, replacing the previous photo of a street in White Plains (I am not sure which one). It has been brought to my attention by ɱ that at least one user prefers the former photo. I, myself, greatly prefer a montage, whether it be the one I created or another, because Westchester is a tremendously diverse county. As residents surely are aware, each city, town, village, and hamlet has its own unique and noticeable identity. It is of course recognized that no montage of a reasonable size could possibly accommodate each of these municipalities nor give a comprehensive depiction of Westchester County. That, however, is not the function of a montage. It is to exhibit an array of eclectic examples that are notable in their own rights and, in aggregate, give a flavor for the county. Therefore, I would like to lay out my justification of each of the photos I selected for inclusion in the montage:
I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks of the matter. Ergo Sum ( talk) 16:43, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
The following material was deleted on 1 July 2018 by Ɱ:
Westchester County ranks #8 among the top 10 counties with the wealthiest people in the United States. [1]
The ostensible reason for the arbitrary deletion of material of excellent provenance (CNBC) was: "Income ranking already listed. Keep it to the US Census, update as needed, provide dates," as if there were space constraints or as if different ways of looking at data were not useful. XavierItzm ( talk) 20:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
References
8. Westchester, New York Average annual income of the top one percent: $4,326,049
Recently, a new section called Health was created. Currently, the only thing in it is a paragraph about the COVID-19 pandemic. As it stands, it is unreferenced. I think we should develop some consensus on how to treat COVID-19 in this article. I don't think it deserves its own section, since this is an overview article of the county, and that strikes me as recentism. Do others have thoughts on what should and should not be included? Ergo Sum 00:36, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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Epicgenius (
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23:28, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Are you sure Westchester County has mostly a humid subtropical climate?
because white plains seems to have a humid continental climate for example. דולב חולב ( talk) 13:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)