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It's unclear to me that renaming this article was a good idea. I think there are really two different articles here. High Line is (was?) about the abandoned rail structure and the movement to turn it into a recreational facility. It's an article which I expect will grow over the years as work in that area progresses. West Side Line is about the history (and current uses) of the line from a railroad/transportation/infrastructure point of view, and does an excellent job of that, I might add.
The problem is, I'm not sure that covering both those topics in a single article really does either one justice. It's like trying to merge Fort Washington and Bennet Park into a single article. Same piece of geography, overlapping history, but two entirely different articles. Would anybody object if I factored the lets-make-it-a-park stuff back out into High Line? Obviously, the two articles would cross-reference each other. -- RoySmith 13:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Somebody's cat helping them to edit? -- RoySmith 13:07, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and performed the split discussed above. I tried to sort out which pieces belonged in which article, but undoubtedly I've not done a perfect job. Please feel free to correct as required. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Is there a more precise description? I get the idea it's talking about a tram engine but if the vague description is also a bit inaccurate, it could be a steam dummy as often used on Long Island at the time. Jim.henderson ( talk) 01:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
CatskillArchive link deserves to be included, because it's much easier to read, although it's less reliably permanent. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 02:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I am unsure about this part of the article:
"A wye was constructed next to Track 2 (the westernmost track) to allow diesels to turn around. South of 49th Street, there is a crossover from Track 1 (the easternmost track) to Track 2, and another siding splits off Track 2 at 49th Street."
Because looking at old aerial photography from 1924 and 1951 (available at maps.nyc.gov) shows what looks to be the same wye - track configuration being the same (in terms of what remains, obviously), etc - this seems further supported by the (long since taken offline) track diagrams by Richard E. Green, and what few rear window views from Amtrak trains are available on YouTube.
Unless the wye had been rebuilt - which I wouldn't count as construction in the same sense of making something brand new that wasn't there before, but that's just my opinion.
I am aware of the fact that it isn't until north of Penn / the LIRR yard that the tracks re-align with the original West Side Line tracks, but this seems to happen BEFORE the location of the wye.
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It's unclear to me that renaming this article was a good idea. I think there are really two different articles here. High Line is (was?) about the abandoned rail structure and the movement to turn it into a recreational facility. It's an article which I expect will grow over the years as work in that area progresses. West Side Line is about the history (and current uses) of the line from a railroad/transportation/infrastructure point of view, and does an excellent job of that, I might add.
The problem is, I'm not sure that covering both those topics in a single article really does either one justice. It's like trying to merge Fort Washington and Bennet Park into a single article. Same piece of geography, overlapping history, but two entirely different articles. Would anybody object if I factored the lets-make-it-a-park stuff back out into High Line? Obviously, the two articles would cross-reference each other. -- RoySmith 13:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
Somebody's cat helping them to edit? -- RoySmith 13:07, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and performed the split discussed above. I tried to sort out which pieces belonged in which article, but undoubtedly I've not done a perfect job. Please feel free to correct as required. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:56, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Is there a more precise description? I get the idea it's talking about a tram engine but if the vague description is also a bit inaccurate, it could be a steam dummy as often used on Long Island at the time. Jim.henderson ( talk) 01:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
CatskillArchive link deserves to be included, because it's much easier to read, although it's less reliably permanent. Vzeebjtf ( talk) 02:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I am unsure about this part of the article:
"A wye was constructed next to Track 2 (the westernmost track) to allow diesels to turn around. South of 49th Street, there is a crossover from Track 1 (the easternmost track) to Track 2, and another siding splits off Track 2 at 49th Street."
Because looking at old aerial photography from 1924 and 1951 (available at maps.nyc.gov) shows what looks to be the same wye - track configuration being the same (in terms of what remains, obviously), etc - this seems further supported by the (long since taken offline) track diagrams by Richard E. Green, and what few rear window views from Amtrak trains are available on YouTube.
Unless the wye had been rebuilt - which I wouldn't count as construction in the same sense of making something brand new that wasn't there before, but that's just my opinion.
I am aware of the fact that it isn't until north of Penn / the LIRR yard that the tracks re-align with the original West Side Line tracks, but this seems to happen BEFORE the location of the wye.