A fact from Wayward Son (novel) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 September 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Wayward Son was described as "a delirious candy-coated romp"?
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
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The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 05:57, 4 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Adequate sourcing: - I think there's some unsourced analysis in the section covering the characters. See
WP:OR–Try to pull analysis from secondary sources, instead of interpreting the book on your own.
Interesting: - I think the hook is a little too straightforward. Maybe pull an interesting bit from the book, or preferably from a review of the book?
QPQ: None required.
Overall: We're not quite ready for DYK, but I wouldn't give up just yet–let's see if we can't clean up the section on the characters and improve the hook, and then we'll be good to go!
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 19:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I'd be happy to help, but I'm not familiar with writing about novels on Wikipedia. Perhaps someone from
WikiProject Novels could offer guidance?
Michael Barera (
talk) 05:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment: (pinging participants:
Theleekycauldron and
Madeleinerberry) as a regular from
WP:YA, the sourcing seems fine, since plot and characters section usually only ask for sourcing for direct quotes and contentious material. I edited the reception section to remove an unsourced affirmation, and the third paragraph is also potentially unsourced, so I'd recommend ditching it. Aside from that, no big worries about
WP:RS. Hope this helps.
Isabelle🔔 03:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:DYK under Content - "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way."
SL93 (
talk) 06:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
There is also a verifiability tag that needs taken care of.
SL93 (
talk) 06:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I removed some of the unsourced statements in the characters' section, it honestly should be fine now—the book is the source for the statements.
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 06:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Theleekycauldron: I think that would work. As for the tag on the article, it looks like only the Sequels section would need to be referenced.
SL93 (
talk) 06:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
A fact from Wayward Son (novel) appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 September 2021 (
check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Wayward Son was described as "a delirious candy-coated romp"?
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Children's literature, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Children's literature on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Children's literatureWikipedia:WikiProject Children's literatureTemplate:WikiProject Children's literaturechildren and young adult literature articles
This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all
LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the
project page or contribute to the
discussion.LGBT studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBT studiesLGBT articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to
novels,
novellas,
novelettes and
short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women writers, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as
this nomination's talk page,
the article's talk page or
Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by
Cwmhiraeth (
talk) 05:57, 4 September 2021 (UTC)reply
Adequate sourcing: - I think there's some unsourced analysis in the section covering the characters. See
WP:OR–Try to pull analysis from secondary sources, instead of interpreting the book on your own.
Interesting: - I think the hook is a little too straightforward. Maybe pull an interesting bit from the book, or preferably from a review of the book?
QPQ: None required.
Overall: We're not quite ready for DYK, but I wouldn't give up just yet–let's see if we can't clean up the section on the characters and improve the hook, and then we'll be good to go!
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 19:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I'd be happy to help, but I'm not familiar with writing about novels on Wikipedia. Perhaps someone from
WikiProject Novels could offer guidance?
Michael Barera (
talk) 05:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment: (pinging participants:
Theleekycauldron and
Madeleinerberry) as a regular from
WP:YA, the sourcing seems fine, since plot and characters section usually only ask for sourcing for direct quotes and contentious material. I edited the reception section to remove an unsourced affirmation, and the third paragraph is also potentially unsourced, so I'd recommend ditching it. Aside from that, no big worries about
WP:RS. Hope this helps.
Isabelle🔔 03:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:DYK under Content - "If the subject is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must involve the real world in some way."
SL93 (
talk) 06:35, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
There is also a verifiability tag that needs taken care of.
SL93 (
talk) 06:38, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
I removed some of the unsourced statements in the characters' section, it honestly should be fine now—the book is the source for the statements.
theleekycauldron (
talk •
contribs) (
they/them) 06:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply
@
Theleekycauldron: I think that would work. As for the tag on the article, it looks like only the Sequels section would need to be referenced.
SL93 (
talk) 06:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)reply