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Reviewer: Grandiose ( talk · contribs) 11:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll be taking this review. Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 11:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Not much to say - the sourcing in particular is excellent - but I do feel the lead could do with a look. I do feel the reader is thrown in at the deep end: Washington was the first Supreme Court decision to hold that the Compulsory Process Clause of the Sixth Amendment required the reversal of a criminal defendant's conviction if he was barred from obtaining material and relevant witnesses in his favor.. Now I'm British, but I don't quite follow and I think we ought to minimise the level of technical detail required, particularly in the lead. The lead isn't overly long, and I don't think it would take much (maybe another couple of sentences) to really help on this front. The alternative would be augment the "Background" section with a few details of the law, reducing its current focus on case law.
I've also added two citation needed tags. Third, it would be odd to speak of a "majority opinion" in the UK where the court found so unanimously; it rather presupposes the existence of a minority opinion. Is this different in the US?
Image is fine; I don't suppose a photograph of Washington exists.
Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 12:22, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to keep going over this – that part is much better – but I'm now a little confused over instead preferring to base their decision on the trial guarantees of a defendant. what does this mean? Why the emphasis on "trial"? The, in the body of the article, most of the first half of "Opinion of the Court" is the court rejecting the Texas law. the Court did not create any broader rules for how trial judges then implies that there was something in its place. If I had to guess, I'd say that they meant that they required courts to instead "balance evidentiary standards and the right of the defendant to hold witnesses in his favor" but it feels a bit cart-before-horse put round like that, if I'm right. I think that paragraph would make more sense, if so, if it said what courts were meant to do after Washington and then to say that the court in Washington didn't lay down any criteria for doing do.Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 15:45, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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When I saw this as the featured article on the main page, my first thought was that it must be a sports matchup. I was wrong, but nevertheless the 1979 Sun Bowl and 2001 Holiday Bowl both featured Washington v. Texas. I'm sure there was a point to this comment but I can't remember what it was. -- Jameboy ( talk) 15:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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I'll be taking this review. Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 11:46, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Not much to say - the sourcing in particular is excellent - but I do feel the lead could do with a look. I do feel the reader is thrown in at the deep end: Washington was the first Supreme Court decision to hold that the Compulsory Process Clause of the Sixth Amendment required the reversal of a criminal defendant's conviction if he was barred from obtaining material and relevant witnesses in his favor.. Now I'm British, but I don't quite follow and I think we ought to minimise the level of technical detail required, particularly in the lead. The lead isn't overly long, and I don't think it would take much (maybe another couple of sentences) to really help on this front. The alternative would be augment the "Background" section with a few details of the law, reducing its current focus on case law.
I've also added two citation needed tags. Third, it would be odd to speak of a "majority opinion" in the UK where the court found so unanimously; it rather presupposes the existence of a minority opinion. Is this different in the US?
Image is fine; I don't suppose a photograph of Washington exists.
Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 12:22, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to keep going over this – that part is much better – but I'm now a little confused over instead preferring to base their decision on the trial guarantees of a defendant. what does this mean? Why the emphasis on "trial"? The, in the body of the article, most of the first half of "Opinion of the Court" is the court rejecting the Texas law. the Court did not create any broader rules for how trial judges then implies that there was something in its place. If I had to guess, I'd say that they meant that they required courts to instead "balance evidentiary standards and the right of the defendant to hold witnesses in his favor" but it feels a bit cart-before-horse put round like that, if I'm right. I think that paragraph would make more sense, if so, if it said what courts were meant to do after Washington and then to say that the court in Washington didn't lay down any criteria for doing do.Grandiose ( me, talk, contribs) 15:45, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
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When I saw this as the featured article on the main page, my first thought was that it must be a sports matchup. I was wrong, but nevertheless the 1979 Sun Bowl and 2001 Holiday Bowl both featured Washington v. Texas. I'm sure there was a point to this comment but I can't remember what it was. -- Jameboy ( talk) 15:01, 3 January 2018 (UTC)